Worst Role Mafia - GAME OVER!

[izakthegoomba]

Prods probably going out later.

Votecount 4.03

Phillammon (4) - saulres, danakillsu, Amrun, BBmolla
Captain Haddock (2) - RedPanda, inte
danakillsu (2) - Captain Haddock, mafia-n00b
BBmolla (0) -

none

RedPanda (0) -

none

mafia-n00b (0) -

none

inte (0) -

none

Amrun (0) -

none

theamatuer (0) -

none

Foxace36 (0) -

none

saulres (0) -

none

PokerFace (0) -

none

YYR (0) -

none

mcqueen (0) -

none

No Lynch (0) -

none

Not voting (6) - PokerFace, Foxace36, YYR, theamatuer, Phillammon, mcqueen

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. The deadline is (expired on 2012-05-21 12:12:44)

[danakillsu]

Dana and Aul look like the likely scumteam here. Dana for reasons that everyone else has outlined

What reasons would those be. I haven't seen a single case on me that has been explained, just a few people saying: "He's scum like other people said". That's why I haven't really put a lot of effort into defending myself. There's nothing to defend against.

Amrun what do you think his win condition as third party is?

And do you not think reflexive vanillerizer is a bit OP for scum?

Either survivor or cult recruiter.

Not really, in a game like this. For a lot of roles in this game, vanillizing them would be a blessing for the town. Which would make it a worst role quite handily, I think.

I don't get it. I've said this, and she's said this, and people still ask. It's like people don't want to acknowledge the truth that Phillammon's role in no way indicates he's town.

[saulres]

What reasons would those be. I haven't seen a single case on me that has been explained, just a few people saying: "He's scum like other people said". That's why I haven't really put a lot of effort into defending myself. There's nothing to defend against.

You noticed that, huh? I feel the same way. There's scum pushing our lynches.

BB, Why is Poker derptown as compared to scum? Witness:

Pokerface:

You exposed BB's lying about his post restriction, true, but that's not scumhunting: Faking PRs is not a scumtell.

You asked Oversoul a question, true, but that wasn't for scumhunting: You yourself said "thats more of a mafia theory opinion that a consideration of you being scum". Regardless, he did respond to it.

As far as why I am irate about other people's posts being long while mine are long, there's a very simple reason for that. Tierce and Oversoul posts are the longest in the thread and I don't really spend time reading my own posts. After all why would i need to read my own posts? I just wrote them. I know what they say.

That's hypocritical, though, isn't it? If you don't like when other people do it, you shouldn't do it either. My guess is most people are glazing over your posts and not analyzing them for town/scum behavior.

Are you saying you read your posts when you write them? Why?

Sometimes, yes I do. Not in so much detail, but my memory isn't all that great so sometimes I leave myself notes. (Which reminds me I want to look at Foxace. That worked well.)

Your arguments about BB's bringing in Tierce is pure WIFOM, but more, it was given by BB. Your explanation of the post numbering thing was also covered,

much

more concisely, by Amrun. (Is that where your title's from?)

BTW when you brought up Massclaim earlier Saulres what did you think the massclaim would achieve?

??? I didn't bring it up -- BB did and I said it's not pro-town to do it, and Haddock did and I asked him why he was flipflopping on it.

So sorry, but I'm just not seeing pro-town behavior from you.

[inte]

if bb is scum, pokerface is scum too

[saulres]

Tomorrow I'll look at Foxace

Well that was trivial, and relatively pointless. The slot has no scumhunting or content

at all

. Chimera spends all his time explaining his claimed vote restriction and why he wasn't posting. Foxace comes in and his catchup post isn't a catchup post, and then he spends his time promising posts but never actually providing them, as well as disappearing for large chunks of time.

Mod: Please replace Foxace, he's up to 3 prods and we need some productivity from that slot

[izakthegoomba]

Now seeking a replacement for Foxace36. The others who might have needed prods have posted now, so they get away with it this time.

[mafia-n00b]

BB, are you planning on using your power again?

[BBmolla]

BB, are you planning on using your power again?

No.

Saul: Poker's theory's are ridiculous, but he has his own logic to support it. It sounds like he thinks it's legit, and not just bullshit he's fabricating.

[mafia-n00b]

I don't get it... you obviously thought it was smart to use it once, and it brought in town. So what's changed?

I went through you in ISO and a see a point where you claim it's reasonable to assume that if you bring in a second player, they'd be scum. Why is this?

Even if it's a coin-toss each time, that should argue for you not having used it in the first place, because a 50/50 shot at town is horrible odds for the town. Of course, it could be something like 85/15 town/mafia or whatever, but regardless, why are you not willing to do what you've already done?

Of course, scum-BB wouldn't want to bring in more town, but you've made a reasonably cogent case that you wouldn't have targeted Tierce originally if you were scum. So, what am I missing?

[mcqueen]

@BBmolla - I DONT KNOW IF U HAEV ALR3ADY BUT PLZ CLAME11!!!!1 LOL

[mafia-n00b]

BB is claimed as a 2-shot recruiter.

[Phillammon]

Here's a thought. Try Recruiting the alt of a dead player. Or straight up recruiting a dead player.

[saulres]

BB: And yet when I have my own logic, and I think it's legit, you say it's scummy. Why the double-standard?

Also: ITT: McQueen and Phil don't read. (Or forget, it happens.)

McQueen, see here for a list of current claims. (Forgot to put "2-shot" on BB's)

[Phillammon]

My bad, sorry.

[BBmolla]

Because I've seen you use unshitty logic before.

[Amrun]

How and why is saulres' logic shitty? I don't think I've seen anything terrible. He has less hare-brained theories than usual, which make me lean scum on him, though.

[saulres]

I know it's disappointing to you, but I don't post my hare-brained theories as much as I used to. Now I tend to share them only with the mod until after the game's over.

Doesn't mean I haven't posted any though. There are two I remember offhand, one about a 3rdParty team with Hippo and Oversoul, the other regarding possibly two scum teams.

I can't stop my mind, and sometimes they pan out, as I've said before.

But thank you for vouching that that's a regular part of my play. I think you're the only one left who can do that (Tierce could have too. Haddock

might

be able to but I can't remember which game I played with him in and I think it was eaten by tigers anyway.)

[izakthegoomba]

Removed wrong-thread posts.

[saulres]

theam, why do you think your predecessor said this?:

It doesn't effect the way I convey information (I can post as much as I want), however it effects how I can play though.

[mafia-n00b]

I think it's quite possible there are two anti-town factions, so I wouldn't really call that hare-brained. While it's by no means certain, the two distinct flavors of kills that have occurred more than once (maul / kill) at least argue for the possibility.

[theamatuer]

theam, why do you think your predecessor said this?:

It doesn't effect the way I convey information (I can post as much as I want), however it effects how I can play though.

He prob thinks posting with the alt would limit his own activity or somthing.

[BBmolla]

If there are two scum teams I'm misreading a shit ton of people.

I'd believe scumteam/SK though.

[saulres]

@Mod

: Are the sources for all roles in this game from the current state of the Worst Roles thread, or is it possible there are some roles in this game whose source was eaten by tigers?

I have another harebrained theory brewing...

[izakthegoomba]

As I said in the signup thread, the bulk of this setup was designed before the Rollback. Therefore, it is possible that the sources of certain roles have been eaten.

[saulres]

Okay, that shoots down that theory then. Sorry for forgetting the signup thread.