Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[MattP]

P-Edit: what I'm saying his he should be lynched for being scum, not for being newbie. we have better lynch options.

No, I want to lynch him because every single post he has made is scummy, not because he is a newb. Idgaf who is a newb, that's not an excuse to discount someone.

It also looks like you're buddying/soft defending him for no logical reason.

[drmyshotgun]

BK: "We" as in the people Kondi included in Voting Block. Well, I hadn't read the entire thread when writing that point in that post so I actually felt as if there

was

a Voting Block going on and I thought we (people listed in the VB) all liked him and was curious to see his absence.

[kondi2424]

Actually fuck that. Venmar reads town to me.

[MattP]

What has happened to humanity.

[BK201]

So you're saying you think this voting bloc thing was an elaborate plot that shotgun and I came up with?

First of all, if this was true, why wouldn't shotgun suggest Chrimi as a person to be in the bloc in the QT? Second, how the hell would planning this be beneficial to us at all?

Never saw a response to this.

Really, this one is worth responding to?
1. In one word, yes.
2. How could I know why you selected who you did for the voting bloc? Even if there was an obvious reason you're getting into a pointless detail.
3. Explained.

P-Edit: @Matt, Yeah I am defending him, this is his 2nd game ever, this meta is different than Poxnora, and he's playing similar to his only other game. Most importantly, there are far scummier people.

@dmr, Nothing personal, I like you, but that response in no way makes the scumslip any less of a scumslip.

[Om of the Nom]

Ah screw it, I know I'll end up with the most posts eventually.

[MattP]

Fine. But when Venmar eventually flips scum you can all suck my dick.

First of all, if this was true, why wouldn't shotgun suggest Chrimi as a person to be in the bloc in the QT?

VOTE: Kondi

The kondi wagon is better than the BK wagon because of this idiotic

lined up excuse

reasoning

[kondi2424]

Note that all the reads I'm giving without reason are based on looking at intention in ISO's. That is a very efficient way of scumhunting for me that I think is underused.

PEdit: @BK: If the bloc was really a ploy as you said it was, it would have been carefully planned. Shotgun wouldn't HAVE stupid questions about blocs because we would have discussed them. He also wouldn't be suggesting other people (like he did with Chrimi) because we would have discussed who to add to make it believable in the QT.

It falls apart.

[Psyche]

It's pointless in the long run. I'd be more successful leaving the game in RVS.

I'mma read Morton.

I've used this "hypothetical optimum" defense as scum before. Not too convincing now.

Is it just me or are you guys protecting a lurker? Or are you protecting him because of the way i tried to pressure him...

Makes his fail seem more legit.

Making his fail "seem" more legit is not justification for a townread on him.

Have you read the entire thread so far? I pointed out a VERY scummy post by venmar.

Also to add, Venmar constantly puts his foot into the water regarding his ideas and the second anyne finds him scummy he immediately backtracks. He is showing every classic scumtell in the book.

p-edit: I swear to God Om nom, STFU

I'm not seeing it. Venmar's an earnest newbie.

[Om of the Nom]

The kondi wagon is stupid and we need to wagon BK instead. Kondi is town, BK is scum.

[drmyshotgun]

Unvote

Om, you didn't give me any Free Prize. Im going to go back to my little Trollie.
VOTE: Trollie

btw, I might not be on during the weekends as much as on weekdays. Just something to note.

[Psyche]

Why, om?

[kondi2424]

So Matt is town now.

I'm almost done with my reads, then you guys can lynch me or shotgun and I won't die in vain. I am VERY confident in these reads, btw.

[Om of the Nom]

You get the free prize when BK flips scum.
PEDIT: Why what?

[BK201]

An argument based only on WIFOM. ok, well if you're half-way decent at scum you will create distance, which can include stupid questions, and other dribble.
Om is at the very least anti-town at this point. I think we all got it the first 3 times, you want me lynched.

[drmyshotgun]

Why do you include me in your sentence: "You guys can lynch me or shotgun"??
I certainly have no desire to get lynched and I will

not

get lynched.

P-Edit: Om, so what if he flips Town?

[drmyshotgun]

^To Kondi.

[Om of the Nom]

Hey, my gut reads are great, and you should all listen to me. Fate told me to be super special confident in my reads and I'm totally following that advice with all my heart.

PEDIT: If he flips town then oh well, my gut was wrong for once. But he won't flip town because my gut read is on him.

[MattP]

I'm almost done with my reads, then you guys can lynch me or shotgun and I won't die in vain.

I assume you'll explain why I'm town when you post your reads so I'll refrain from asking.

Also, this reads

scummy

AtE

[Psyche]

Om, gut reads have to be substantiated or they are blathering/antitown. Sorry.

[BK201]

Why do you include me in your sentence: "You guys can lynch me or shotgun"??
I certainly have no desire to get lynched and I will

not

get lynched.

You are not reading the thread, or you just asked a rhetorical question to distance yourself from kondi. It's the latter.

@Matt that's what I thought but I'm glad someone else saw that.

[Om of the Nom]

Also kuribo said I should probably try and adapt to the playstyle of yelling at people till I get what I want.

They are substantiated by the feel of his posts. The voices inside my head are reading BK's posts in a scummy way.

[drmyshotgun]

I haven't read the thread and my appetite for it is constantly decreasing.

[kondi2424]

Because their whole reasoning on me is based on your "slip."

Btw, http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/Si2tkBZ5F4w. Scum QT from my recently finished game. I like it

PEdit: @Matt: Already explained all of my reads with no reasoning were intentions in posts.

[Om of the Nom]

@Gunny: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p4036262