Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[Om of the Nom]

Fine, to be nice to you guys and also to show you all that I can control my posting when I feel like it, I will stop posting for 3 hours.

[Psyche]

V/LA FTWEEKEND

[BK201]

We're talking about him because people are attacking me for using a Fate-like playstyle.

Emulate Kass, see how far that gets you. Or instead of playing into other's metas, you could be pro-town by not yelling the same thing at us 5 times.

[kondi2424]

Trollie, you can fuck off. OmNom was answering your question.

Now actually comment on more besides your little boner for shotgun and get into the game.

[MattP]

MattP, can you explain Trollie?

Posts like this:

WHY IS NOBODY LISTENING TO MY POINT AGAINST DOC??

And his last post (p-edit: not the new one, the one before) scream newb town intent to lynch someone he earnestly has a scumread on. I believe it.

[TheTrollie]

Trollie, you can fuck off. OmNom was answering your question.

yeah...and i was sincerely telling him that i dont care who he is playing like. How does talking about whether he is playing like fate contribute to this game whatsoever?

[kondi2424]

Hmm... That's actually pretty good. I had him as second scumread, but I'll give him another look.

PEdit: You asked him why they were discussing Fate, he answered, and you basically flipped him off.

[BK201]

Trollie, you can fuck off. OmNom was answering your question.

yeah...and i was sincerely telling him that i dont care who he is playing like. How does talking about whether he is playing like fate contribute to this game whatsoever?

Exactly.
I'll see you guys tomorrow.

[vijay2vasandani]

Kondi is female?

BK don't ignore me. What post was shotgun's slip?

Psyche I asked you a question. Was I scummy for pushing the bloc? Or have you not finished yet?

So much spam.

P.edit: let me post. Ffs.

[BK201]

BK don't ignore me. What post was shotgun's slip?

are you serious? read the thread, I posted the slip (again) for you.

[vijay2vasandani]

Well the spam. Do it again please?

[BK201]

And of course, you left me out, which means that you don't have all of the town in there.

Yes,

we

left him out....I find Chrimi the most fun player to be in a game with so far.

Explain this.

His post is like half a page long, and you can kind of get the feeling he as ESP or something saying what Kondi's attentions were(he says he "presumes" many times, but he is so sure). anyways he makes this slip. you need to read dmr's whole series of posts to get the full context of how this post incriminates them both.

Open 386 http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=21427

P-Edit: @ Kondi: because 386 was only 10 pages, and I wanted to see you/kass as scum. I'm just going to guess Kass is town, and you/dmr(both stated no PL on him). He seems easy for you to manipulate considering how you coached him in your QT, you're like a leader of sorts to him. All the more reason to keep his lurking butt around till endgame.

@Omnoms I was scum through logic? Look I'm not saying Kondi is bad at town. I just don't value his read on kass, and how he is so cocky about it deserved mention of his town record.

[BK201]

cya tomorrow.

[BK201]

lol meant intentions, not attentions

[vijay2vasandani]

Oh that one? I just assumed he was talking about the trusted circle. Don't see that as a slip.

[Venmar]

Geezus... i go to watch a movie with friends for like 2 or 3 hours and i come back to see 5 new pages. What are you guys doing? Half of this is stupid spam stuff not really related to the game. I would appreciate if you guys stopped that and focused on the game more.

I will post some game related content tomorrow morning, going to sleep.

[TheTrollie]

Gosh Trollie, you are fucking boring. Go play with someone else.

if you wanna get me off your tail answer the questions i asked you. You haven't once explained your behavior. You just write me off as making stupid posts without explaining yourself. Convince me you're town, and I will go "play with someone else"

[kondi2424]

I'm starting to think shotgun and BK are a team.

[kondi2424]

Ladies and gentlemen, a trial run of reads by intentions

TOWN

Kass
OmNom
MattP
vijay
Venmar
Darkling
Trollie

SCUM

BK
shotgun

NULL

Psyche
Chrimi
morton

Very confident in my reads, besides the nulls.

[MattP]

Can you outline the buddying between shotgun and BK?

[MattP]

EBWOP:

Or whatever merited this post:

I'm starting to think shotgun and BK are a team.

[Mortontfrh]

Om, just as a personal request can you turn down the fluff posting? Normally I wouldn't mind, but 18 pages in 2 days is a lot to sift through.

This post is what I was talking about, Morton. Kondi had already said the same thing and implied that only dumb people would think he was scum after playing like a dumb scum. This post feels more like a response to that than your own ideas.

I opened up my post stating that my thoughts Paralleled Kondi's and then offered a new perspective for why people were so quick to jump on his wagon. I don't see how that's particularly sheepy, but I guess that's just me.

How is pointing out the fact that he's posturing scum hunting not actually saying much about why he's scum?

Because the way you did it made it look like an excuse to jump on his wagon.

Isn't that exactly what Trollie was doing and what I accused him of doing? Why is Trollie's excuse for jumping on a wagon scummy while you're perception of my "excuse" isn't scummy?

Venmar #225 - It's the start of the game and we are just on D2. How is someone not getting around to posting considered a lurker? There's a drastic difference between inactivity and lurking. This is perhaps more alarming than Trollie's fake scum hunting.

Om of the Nom #229 - What's the point of blacklisting a player only to play with him, especially if you are going to insist on PLing him? Isn't that kind of the entire point of blacklisting a player, so you don't have to deal with the frustration of PLing them...

BK #238 - Are you really that comfortable brushing someone off based on the meta of 1 game? You've never seen him play as scum, and yet you are awfully quick to believe that his play will have some notable distinctions.

I made this post because i have not made my cases yet.. i said this, so to try and help i am trying to make Psyche talk and to be helpful. He is right now lurking and that is not very pro-town. I am trying to make someone explain themselves and stop being unhelpful and help while i build some cases.

This is troublesome. You say that you're putting pressure on Psych because he's inactive and therefore not helping town. Meanwhile, you admit that you're really just wasting time until you "Build your case". Explain to me how your play is more productive than Psych's.

Venmar # 297 - Do you actually think that buddying is scum? What do you think of Vijay being so open about his desire to be a part of the "Voting Bloc Team" and buddying up with them?

BK #367 - Again, this is completely irrelevant.

TheTrollie # 413 - I don't understand your insistence to continue tunneling Shotgun while plenty is going on around you. Regardless, I don't think that scum would continue to tunnel a wagon that they get called out on for being fake scum hunting.

Mattp # 444 - Why do you automatically assume that a scum team has some buddying going on?

Unvote

I would like Kondi to explain his scum read on Shotgun for me a bit more in depth before I vote.

[MattP]

In response to #444, I just thought that he had said that they were buddying but after looking back at the post I realized I was wrong.

[TheTrollie]

I am insistent because no one has given any weight to the argument, not even to explain why it is a bad one...i think my argument is good and people are ignoring it because dr. is telling them to...why dont you tell me why i am not convincing you?

[MattP]

Morton, if you aren't going to quote then in the future can you link the posts to each post #? It otherwise makes it hard to look back at your points.