Mini 1327: Murder in the Louvre- Day 6

[Vi]

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Shos isn't lying.

By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.

Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.

and did it indeed say you were going to be lynched? *goes to sent messages* no it didn't. first lie detected? O_o

Also, this.

[Hiraki]

(4) Hiraki :

charter, kanyeknowsbest, Parama, shos

shos

right there

[Vi]

(4) Hiraki :

charter, kanyeknowsbest, Parama, shos

shos

right there

The other way around, you etc.

[Hiraki]

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Shos isn't lying.

By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.

Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.

and did it indeed say you were going to be lynched? *goes to sent messages* no it didn't. first lie detected? O_o

Also, this.

Nope. He twisted my words. I said "probably going to be lynched" that's not "going to be lynched" you're missing the subjunctive part of that statement.

Besides, this is besides the point. What would be scummy about getting a message wrong that shos confirmed he sent to me? Wouldn't that just make him worse?

The other way around, you etc.

Ah. I'm being stupid.

Because I don't really think he's scum?

[Vi]

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Shos isn't lying.

By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.

Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.

and did it indeed say you were going to be lynched? *goes to sent messages* no it didn't. first lie detected? O_o

Also, this.

Nope. He twisted my words. I said "probably going to be lynched" that's not "going to be lynched" you're missing the subjunctive part of that statement.

I'm pretty sure that's a minor technicality that certainly doesn't warrant shos calling you a liar.

The other way around, you etc.

Ah. I'm being stupid.

Because I don't really think he's scum?

Given the above, what's the alternative explanation?

[shos]

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Shos isn't lying.

By the way, your message also noted that I'm probably going to be lynched today.

Any reason for that Shos? I had two votes on me, none of which were you.

and did it indeed say you were going to be lynched? *goes to sent messages* no it didn't. first lie detected? O_o

Also, this.

Nope. He twisted my words. I said "probably going to be lynched" that's not "going to be lynched" you're missing the subjunctive part of that statement.

It also doesn't say that you are 'probably' going to be lynched. it does not say anything about you at all, except that it is unlikely that anyone will target you in any night action.

[shos]

And more to the stuff I care about, I am incredulous at the concept of you clearly and consciously setting up a trap for Hiraki as soon as he replaced in and then not realizing it was sprung.

But since you're saying Hiraki is lying about the content of his private message, and Hiraki is saying there's an embellishment you're denying in said message, this sounds like 1v1 material to me.~

@kanye: We should definitely massclaim, but I don't think it should happen Today.

@Vi: it took me exactly two posts to realize it was sprung in case you didn't notice. Quotes are in the spoiler:

Spoiler: quotes

why the fuck would they kill elmo.

They didn't. I vigged him.

Which means that the actual scum kill was prevented somehow. If there's a town roleblocker out there, it's very likely that whoever you blocked last night is the scum.

outing yourself so early like that? *doesn't want to ask if you were 1-shot vig*

why did you vig him? And uh other PRs do not expose yourself yet.

we
A) don't know if Yos is telling truth
B) if you're a JK, don't know if you protected or prevented

Yos, are you scum trying to out our PRs?

yeah thats actually what i figured.

hey shos. hes telling the truth: a 1-1 trade isnt worth it for scum.

HOLY SHIT

VOTE: Hiraki
I'll explain tomorrow

Hiraki is scum, that's why.

I would be down for a name/flavorclaim at least.

Wouldn't giving the names of the roles count as quoting the mod?

MOD: can we tell the flavornames of our roles?

[Yes.] - spring

[Vi]

actually, I think that it is better if I say it before Hiraki comes, so let it be now.

I was able to send a message during yesterday, anonymous, to one person.
I really had no clue what to do with that. but then I came up with something, and I sent a message to Hiraki. I suppose that I am not allowed to quote, so generally, the message said something like,

I want scum to win, so if you are scum, vote uberninja and kill shos(cuz people seem to think he is town), or if UN is scum, vote Zar quickly without saying anything, nobody will complain.

Sooooo I wanted to test the reaction. as a start, he did not inform the town about recieving the message. that's (A). then, he made his long post, and voted Uberninja. that's (B). and now - scumteam's kill has been blocked? wonderful!! that means he tried to kill me. point is - in addition to the message, I was bulletproof yesterday as well. that's (C). So it all fits.

please don't tell me I made a mistake exposing myself ><

You realize that
(A) people have been megalynched just for the first two parts, and
(B) barring very limited scenarios (i.e. scum with unknown Traitor) Hiraki, working with a team mind you, would probably not kill you based on an anonymous note?

[shos]

A) what do you refer to as first two parts..? and I'm not following the point there
B) I have no idea what scenarios can have that. I wrote in the message something like 'assume I am scum' or something like that. I also have no idea what Hiraki would or would not do - he basically said almost nothing through 48 pages of game, so why should he fear..?

also, if what I suggested is not what realy has happened, that means a kill was prevented on someone. nobody claimed anything about it, and as I said, the UN vote along with the fact that he failed to inform town about the message(actually, the fact he concealed it is much more pushing since UN *was* scummy so that might be just a coincidence) made me think it is much more likely.

[shos]

back from shower - mod confirmed quickly

then I am totes for claiming our role names.

[kanyeknowsbest]

no were not claiming role names today, thats stupid. what might be a good idea to claim is the flavor name (ie "Endymion in Diane and Endymion by Jean-Jacques Pradier" for elmo, "A Statuette of Pazuzu" for uberninja)

at the very least i would like to hear yos' flavor name.

[kanyeknowsbest]

also, for now

unvote

[Yosarian2]

The other way around, you etc.

Ah. I'm being stupid.

Because I don't really think he's scum?

Given the above, what's the alternative explanation?

It sounds like there were two different, unrelated things yesterday. Hiraki got a vision from his own role ability,k and he got a message from Shos. I think at first he was confused about the two, but it sounds like two seperate things.

What we can get from this whole mess:

Shos message-sending ability is confirmed. His alignment is not; that would be kind of a weird message for scum-Shoes to send (H-are you confirming the exact wording of Shos message?) but he could just have sent it to look town.

H's claimed vision doesn't really sound faked. He just discribed the french flag apparenlty without knowing what a "tricolor" flag was. Vi; I guess the scum have some kind of french theme, or something?

[Yosarian2]

at the very least i would like to hear yos' flavor name.

Eh, I don't really see any harm claiming it. I am Françoise Dupont. Some kind of French police inspector.

[Yosarian2]

Nuwen is Yos your partner?
Thanks for letting me know who to lynch after I flip Yos

Answer the question, please.

Also, why the hell are you voting me here? It should be pretty obvious that I'm telling the truth, unless you really think that the scum killed elmo?

Explain to me how you could possibly think that "Yos is scum" is a plausible explanation here.

[Vi]

@Yos 1187: You realize that that tells me nothing that I don't know.

If Hiraki described a tricolor flag without knowing what it was AND specifically mentioned that white is not a color, that sounds like either he knows more than he's letting on (i.e. he was serious about that offhand comment) OR that he wasn't mentioning the French flag.

Moreover, if he picked up the medallion at the scene of the Elmo's murder, that means that his comments are in reference to you. Thanks for claiming before I realized that, btw.~~

Asking whether the scum have a French theme is kind of silly. This

whole game

has a French theme. Now, given that Hiraki was describing you, and that you yourself have a French theme, and you were making the Elmo kill out to be made by scum by asking that question, what were you getting at?

In addition, please answer Furcolow's question about Nuwen being scum. (the answer is "yes" btw)

[shos]

no were not claiming role names today, thats stupid. what might be a good idea to claim is the flavor name (ie "Endymion in Diane and Endymion by Jean-Jacques Pradier" for elmo, "A Statuette of Pazuzu" for uberninja)

at the very least i would like to hear yos' flavor name.

that's what I meant~
and I am kinda agreeing with that will of yours.


@Yos: I figured everyone has french-tasted flavor names, since it's the louvre and stuff..?

Some kind of French police inspector.

please tell me you haven't just roleclaimed.. it was you who had the vig so..

[shos]

@VI: since he specifically mentioned that white isn't a color - maybe it's another flag? Germany for example? perhaps a different-country part of the museum?(like english drawings)

[Vi]

There is no need to speculate when there are people who can give straight answers.

[Furcolow]

unvote
vote: Nuwen

[Yosarian2]

@Yos 1187: You realize that that tells me nothing that I don't know.

If Hiraki described a tricolor flag without knowing what it was AND specifically mentioned that white is not a color, that sounds like either he knows more than he's letting on (i.e. he was serious about that offhand comment) OR that he wasn't mentioning the French flag.

Moreover, if he picked up the medallion at the scene of the Elmo's murder, that means that his comments are in reference to you. Thanks for claiming before I realized that, btw.~~

Asking whether the scum have a French theme is kind of silly. This

whole game

has a French theme. Now, given that Hiraki was describing you, and that you yourself have a French theme, and you were making the Elmo kill out to be made by scum by asking that question, what were you getting at?

Ahh. He found the medalian at the scene of Elmo's murder? Ok, I totally missed that part of his claim.

I am pretty out of it right now. Something pretty upsetting just happened this weekend, and I'm not really able to focus on this game properly right now.

[Hiraki]

If Hiraki described a tricolor flag without knowing what it was AND specifically mentioned that white is not a color

I thought mod was going for German scum--that's the only reason I said that.

also, for now

unvote

Er why?

I'm pretty sure that's a minor technicality that certainly doesn't warrant shos calling you a liar.

I'm so confused right now.

Let me clarify this. Shos was right that the message says nothing about me being probably lynched or anything close to that. I don't know how I saw that or even saw the "probably"--it's been a long day. I honestly don't know how I got that fucked up in my reading abilities though.

My flavor claim is Jacqueline Champollion. Blonde and daughter of the director.

[Zar]

why the fuck would they kill elmo.

Flavor claiming is absurd, scum will probably have fake claims anyway.

Choosing to believe Yos' vig claim.

That means that either

1) shos' BP claim is legit or
2) scum witheld
3) good doc
4) whatever prevented the scum-kill.

Based on kanye's interaction with elmo all through D1, I'm leaning to think he's probably not guilty.

That means, imo:

Prob. Inno.: Yos (Vig), Kanye (Play)

Still not cleared: Charter, Furcolow, Hiraki, Katsuki, Nuwen, Parama, shos, Vi,

[Vi]

If Hiraki described a tricolor flag without knowing what it was AND specifically mentioned that white is not a color

I thought mod was going for German scum--that's the only reason I said that.

Why?

I'm pretty sure that's a minor technicality that certainly doesn't warrant shos calling you a liar.

I'm so confused right now.

Let me clarify this. Shos was right that the message says nothing about me being probably lynched or anything close to that. I don't know how I saw that or even saw the "probably"--it's been a long day. I honestly don't know how I got that fucked up in my reading abilities though.

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[Hiraki]

Why?

This is something that's held in France

after/during the 1800's

containing culture

why shouldn't it be german scum