TM2012: Scummies 2011.5 - Let the credits roll!

[xRECKONERx]

@DV: Zar/theam are likely scum based off "let me look at the playerlist and see which names jump out at me". I've been extremely busy the past couple days and have now had a combined total of 5.5 hours of sleep in 72 hours, so I'm running on little more than Dr. Pepper & Coffee right now.

[DeasVail]

DeasVail + MoI

Trololololol

Zar:

I think it's dangerous to rule scum pairings out like that, since the more control scum have in one group, the less control they have in others, so it's not really that imbalanced.

BBmolla:

I smell a fakeclaim.

[BBmolla]

BBmolla: I smell a fakeclaim.

Then vote me asshat.

[BBmolla]

Reck is so god damned town.

By the way, two of my team mates flipped scum, just noting that.

[BBmolla]

Theamatuer

I'm sticking with a townread on him too.

What the fuck.

"Let me write paragraphs on why town players are scum, but call the scummier players town without explanation"

[BBmolla]

...wait my scummy is a fake scummy.

Anyone know what's the deal with this fake/real scummy shit?

[DeasVail]

I've explained my townread in the past.

If you want me to reiterate me reasons for the sake of your own read, ask me to.

[BBmolla]

Zar

The big scummy thing about him that I just can't get over is his inclusion of himself in his lists of people off the wagon, and later of justification of it. Most of what I said yesterday still applies too, but I am starting to get a bit of a townread on him again.

Cool scumbuddy read bro

Reiterate, I don't want to sift through your bullshit.

[BBmolla]

vote me asshat.

^Why aren't you doing this.

[BBmolla]

Zar's interaction garbage is fake scumhunting.

Ruling out pairs =/= finding scum.

Scum is in (DV/Theam/Zar).

[BBmolla]

Reck is DV town and if so why

[BBmolla]

Btw, my team isn't winning team Mafia, and I'm busy irl, so my lurking isn't strategic it's cause at this point I don't really give all that much of a shit.

[BBmolla]

Yes, I'm copying what Reck said.

[DeasVail]

-theam asking for an investigation role
-theam asking why we lynched Magua (I disagree with MoI, I don't understand why scum would say this)
-theam being obviously unhelpful

I don't want to encourage a quicklynch, and want to discuss with my team and the players here.

Why do you feel I need to be voting?

[DeasVail]

What's the difference between playing in a TM game without being likely to win TM, and playing in a normal MS game?

[BBmolla]

>investigation role
Stupidity =/= town

>why we lynched Magua
"Hey guys, why did we lynch that scummy town player? I sure told you so."

>unhelpful
...
MAN I MUST BE THE TOWNIEST MOTHER FUCKER IN THIS GAME DONTCHA THINK?

And why the hell wouldn't you be voting, you've clearly called me your biggest scumread, if a town player thinks someone is scum they don't puss around they fucking vote. Scum players wait to see others opinions before throwing their vote down.

Why /not/ vote?

P-Edit: Had this not been TM I'd probably have replaced out due to inactivity.

[DeasVail]

What's so wrong with this game that you'd replace out?

Voting is unnecessary at this stage.

[BBmolla]

His Ajax vote is a bit early, but I wouldn't be surprised by it considering the likely 4-town wagon of me, MoI, Hito, Quil. Scum would probably feel the need to get themselves on there actually. This is supported by the fact that he just seems to go along with the suspicion on Ajax, without much questioning of it or exploration of other reads and makes a show of saying, "I would vote Ajax here, but gotta be pro-town and check with mod first".

But that's not what happened. At all. Ajax was becoming more and more obvious scum, I was just attempting to explore an unexplored venue(KK) because Ajax already looked like shit with interactions from Quilford. I didn't need to explore it any more. I didn't want to accidentally hammer for obvious fucking reasons.

157 is too self-conscious (although I remember using that as a scumtell against him when I was scum, so now I'm unsure), but I do think that 158 is justifying his scumread rather than using the opportunity to get others to vote Ajax.

"Here's a point, but here's a point from myself to fucking cancel that point out total."
The fuck are you doing.

I feel that the fact that he doesn't try to get a wagon on KK day 1 is rather telling, indicating scum feeling the need to commit to the Ajax wagon in order to not look like their buddy. There was no time constraint, nothing to stop Molla-town from wagoning his strongest scumread.

KK wasn't my strongest scumread.

His posting toward the end of Day 3, I also find scummy, particularly his resignation to the KK lynch despite there being some resistance to it and his lack of attempt to improve his reads. Also, suggesting that I was scum with KK-scum is a really bad accusation that I feel would only come from scum trying to look like they actually think KK is scum.

Uh? What? I mean I don't even see the point of this.

Things that make me doubt my read are his saying he doesn't feel a KK lynch on Day 2, which is very inconsistent with his other posting on KK and possibly too inconsistent for scum, and I'd maybe expect him to be less controversial and more pro-town-looking as scum.

Why was this included, it's obviously meaningless to you.

Vote me.

[BBmolla]

What's so wrong with this game that you'd replace out?

Voting is unnecessary at this stage.

Cause I got behind and couldn't find a will to catch up.

[BBmolla]

If you don't vote me I'm considering it a scumclaim.

[DeasVail]

Ok,

I'm going to

Vote: BBmolla

I really think he's scum, but if anyone thinks he's town, please speak up with why. I do feel that he should be lynched.

PEdit: I really wish I didn't vote you now.

[BBmolla]

Thank you.

[xRECKONERx]

@BBmolla: Why am I town? Why did you want DV to vote you?

I'm actually going to

Vote: Zar

. He has been scummy, I've wanted him dead, and to top it off, he takes MoI's outguess-the-mod notion of "scum wouldn't be put in a group where they can control voting" and runs with it, using it to mislead the town. He also didn't include himself in any of the analysis. Convenient. That's the same bullshit tactic I pulled in Fate's recent mini theme when I was making potential scumgroups and didn't include myself in them to create misinformation.

[xRECKONERx]

Reck is so god damned town.

By the way, two of my team mates flipped scum, just noting that.

Reck is DV town and if so why

Two of my teammates flipped scum as well, what of it?

I don't know about DV, but I do know there are people I have stronger scumreads on. See: Zar.

[BBmolla]

Two of my teammates flipped scum as well, what of it?

Team mates told me to point it out.

You're town because you are genuine in your apathy.

Is Zar/Theam more likely or Zar/DV.