Open 413 - Duck, Duck, Shoot! (Game over!)

[Shattered Viewpoint]

Meaning I chose not to, and therefore still could.

[Quinter]

Why would you claim the status of your gun? Seems like a desperation effort to look town under pressure.

Vote: Shattered Viewpoint

[drmyshotgun]

What pressure Quinter?
VOTE: Quinter

[drmyshotgun]

Also where's your "Stuff" you promised us, huh? HUH?? HMMMMMMM???????????

[Quinter]

Your pressure on the last page.

Also I promised "more later", which I have and will continue to deliver. Your last post is taking it way out of proportion.

[mcqueen]

Hmm. You guys just reminded me of where I left off yesterday... and it wasn't on Om of the Nom. And it was a more solid-based read.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Quinter

If my vote hadn't of been on AcRv yesterday, here's where it would have been.

[Om of the Nom]

I armed myself last night.
Also I completely forgot to reread, but I'm V/LA so I can't do it today. I'll have to do it tomorrow after school.

[drmyshotgun]

Are we supposed to tell if we armed or not?

[Om of the Nom]

I did it for a reason.

[Om of the Nom]

Not going to say what it was.

[brundibar]

How can we even trust what each other says about arming? Why would we tell scum whether we did or didn't arm? In my opinion saying if we armed or not doesn't do us any good whatsoever.

[brundibar]

also, VOTE: Quinter because dammit we should have done this yesterday.

[Quinter]

I really hope you are not going off your shitty logic at the beginning of this game. Also your claim of "we should have done this yesterday" is complete bullshit as you made no attempt at lynching me as the day ended.

[brundibar]

I don't think my logic was shitty earlier. Jal just started looking MORE scummy than you.

[Om of the Nom]

Okay, V/LA ended unexpectedly so I am happy, will read up after catching up in my other games.

[Om of the Nom]

thanks lastsurvivor.

I thought PGO was basically Daykill Vigilante...

Vote: shotgun

you can't seriously not have read your role pm if you are town

If he didn't read it he wouldn't have known his alignment.

Vote: andrew

Last few posts have been fake.

No elaboration whatsoever.

Vote: Jal

I don't like his tone at all. It's way too snarky. His push on AcRv and attack for an OMGUS vote is bad.

No elaboration whatsoever.

Pedit: I did say I was going to be inactive, but your attack on me for "hopping on wagons without reasoning" is completely false, brundibar.

It's completely true. One line of a shit excuse to hop on a wagon doesn't equal reasoning.

I think Phillammon is town and Jal's vote on him was fishy.

No elaboration whatsoever.

I agree with the notion that Om2theNom is probably town for his claim and I think mcqueen's reaction was towny.

Obviously he superskimmed the thread so much that he wasn't even able to tell that we were talking about a different game.

Why would you claim the status of your gun? Seems like a desperation effort to look town under pressure.

Vote: Shattered Viewpoint

This sounds like what I would try and say if I were scum trying to find a quick suspect to park my vote on at the start of the day. Also note no elaboration whatsoever. Since when was he even getting pressure in the first place?

Also I promised "more later", which I have and will continue to deliver.

Still waiting...

I really hope you are not going off your shitty logic at the beginning of this game.

Why is it shitty?

Quinter is full of one-liners and wagon hops. His numerous attempts to discredit the cases against him solidify a scumread on him from me. He has promised content but has done literally jack-shit. Also he is barely reading the game too.
VOTE: Quinter

[andrew94]

rereading 2morrow

[drmyshotgun]

@Mod: V/LA until 20th

[AcRv]

I would link to one instance to it, but that was lost in the crash... I'm sure if you looked you could find occassions where it's done. I can understand why they do it too, hence why I'm doing it. I only do it early game so scum don't give me an early town vibe and then mess with me a bit later on.

But if they start acting like that once they see your reason for your town reads, then surely that would be suspicious to you wouldn't it? It's a shit reason to not give out your town reads. You aren't just witholding information from the scum, but also from the town.

Or town could be doing it because, you know, it's a TOWN thing to do, and so TOWN are naturally going to do things that TOWN naturally do.

So basically anyone who isn't following your towntells is scum. Nice to know.

Where did I say you had to agree with it? I just said that it's not scummy to not explain town reads

Where did I say I had to agree with it? Explain your town reads please. There is nothing to hide.

Uh... you said you had to agree with it here:

So basically anyone who isn't following your towntells is scum. Nice to know.

If everyone is scum for disagreeing with unexplained townreads, then by that logic I should expect everyone to agree with them. Which I don't. Because you're not scum if you disagree with my town reads. You were the one assuming that. And I remember you saying something earlier...

Stop assuming things.

No, it meant that anyone who wasn't following your towntells is scum to you. Though I can see how that was a bit ambiguous.

Disagreeing with people isn't scummy

I must say this before Lastsurvivor posts the day ending votecount -

Where in my definition did it say "of oneself"? Hm? Yeah, I called it a noun (what happens when you're sleep deprived), but does that change the point? Honestly, that's not even good pedanticism, just stupidity!

I have so much temptation to yell at you how stupid this is, but there is no time for that, and it would be pointless. You explained defending as protecting yourself from an attack (well, I used a different wording, but you get the point). If someone else is getting attacked, and you defend [them], you are defending

yourself

, using your definition. Defending someone else is

protecting them

from an attack, not protecting yourself, then saying it's defending someone else. I know my wording is bad in a lot of this post, but I'm trying to make it quick, but you are naive not to see the flaw in your usage of your definition.

I never said that anyone was defending themself... I will (again) quote the applicable definition (from wikitionary). You will then requote the definition I gave bolding the bits where I specify who is being defended. You are putting words into my mouth... well, words into my text.

Defend: n. To ward off, repel (an attack or attacker)

You tell me where the heck I specified that it was defending oneself. Nobody else get in the way here, I want mcqueen to acknowledge that he's making crap. The word "defend" means the same damned thing no matter who's on what end. It is still repelling and attacker.

Shattered Viewpoint - Nobody Special. I'll admit, you seemed nothing like the Nobody Special I (half-)know, so now my read may be biased. But I'm going to have to say you're scum. Even if you're an Alt, you aren't playing anything like the town Nobody Special. -

Scum

I've seen him pretty lurker-y in the (only) two games I've played with him... he was town in both.

Prove it.

How do you suggest I do that?

Oh so you can't?
Okay.

drmyshotgun seems really off here...

Are we supposed to tell if we armed or not?

Guys, telling people if we armed ourselves is exactly what NOT to do. Because then scum go from a slightly reduced 40% chance of shooting back to a 0% chance.

Shattered Viewpoint saying he armed himself after being asked to prove he's not scum seems like the sort of thing he'd do as either alignment, so I'm seeing that null.
Ommy's null/town to me at the moment, probably more town.

As for Quinter... I'm hesitant to go on him because last time I played with someone not posting content they promised they flipped town... so I'm really hesitant to vote there at the moment.

[Om of the Nom]

I would link to one instance to it, but that was lost in the crash... I'm sure if you looked you could find occassions where it's done. I can understand why they do it too, hence why I'm doing it. I only do it early game so scum don't give me an early town vibe and then mess with me a bit later on.

But if they start acting like that once they see your reason for your town reads, then surely that would be suspicious to you wouldn't it? It's a shit reason to not give out your town reads. You aren't just witholding information from the scum, but also from the town.

Or town could be doing it because, you know, it's a TOWN thing to do, and so TOWN are naturally going to do things that TOWN naturally do.

So basically anyone who isn't following your towntells is scum. Nice to know.

Where did I say you had to agree with it? I just said that it's not scummy to not explain town reads

Where did I say I had to agree with it? Explain your town reads please. There is nothing to hide.

Uh... you said you had to agree with it here:

So basically anyone who isn't following your towntells is scum. Nice to know.

If everyone is scum for disagreeing with unexplained townreads, then by that logic I should expect everyone to agree with them. Which I don't. Because you're not scum if you disagree with my town reads. You were the one assuming that. And I remember you saying something earlier...

Stop assuming things.

No, it meant that anyone who wasn't following your towntells is scum to you. Though I can see how that was a bit ambiguous.

Disagreeing with people isn't scummy

That was you who said that :V I said the bolded bit at the end.

As for Quinter... I'm hesitant to go on him because last time I played with someone not posting content they promised they flipped town... so I'm really hesitant to vote there at the moment.

But have there been any other town flips the previous times you did this? Why does a town-flip previously have an impact on a scum-flip this game?

[AcRv]

But have there been any other town flips the previous times you did this? Why does a town-flip previously have an impact on a scum-flip this game?

It's a postgame paranoia mainly. I'm affected by my emotions/instincts a lot more than other people are at times. Chances are in a few weeks I'll be over it, but for the moment my paranoia is still there.

[Om of the Nom]

I am hugely affected by my emotions (how I play for the whole game is normally affected by my mood at the beginning). Also AtE works like a motherfucking charm on me.

I don't give a fuck whether or not someone who did that flipped town in another game. Don't pussy out and just vote Quinter.

[Lastsurvivor]

Quick and dirty VC since I don't have a lot of time

Quinter (L-1!!!) - drmyshotgun, mcqueen, brundibar, Om of the Nom

Shattered Viewpoint - quinter
mcqueen -
Phillammon -
Om of the Nom -
AcRv -
andrew94 -
drmyshotgun -
brundibar -

Not voting: Everyone not mentioned up there...

V/LA: Shotgun - 18th - 20th (#392), mcqueen 18th - 21st (notified via PM)

[Om of the Nom]

Oh, L-1.
Don't vote Quinter yet.

[Quinter]

Om to the Nom, your basis of "no elaboration whatsoever" is really bad. Just lynch SV or Brundibar tomorrow.