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[DLG]

Of course, I'll do my best to catch scums here as I usually do with my limited skills.
Can't let them Scums win this one, eh?

So, who's scum and why?

Ya you're right. UNVOTE: VOTE: rachmarie, beause you're piggy backing and wrote two paragraphs to defend what still amounts to a RV

This seems reasonable. But, what prompted you to point this out? What changed between here and here?

VOTE: Andrew94
Because "bandwagon his ass" is not a legit reason for a vote.

What's scummy about it? To me, andrew94's vote is a slight Town-tell

@ Bitmap

Answer these questions in your next post.

@ Bitmap
See above, but worse for being fourth.

What's scummy about me wanting a wagon on a player that hadn't posted?

My post was there for you to see. Explain how you could, at the same time, join the wagon I called for, and call it scummy after andrew94 expressed some problem with my post.

@ inte

I'd like an answer to my question to you in post 20, as well.

Also, is your implication simply that Greywing and RachMarie are sheeping?

[drmyshotgun]

^So call out scum first and then vote?

@Hyperion - It was just a general comment on that player. Was not answering anything for him. The above line was not for the same purpose as the one below.

@Greywing: You asking that question to me is Scummy.

[drmyshotgun]

@DLG - How the hell am I supposed to know who's scum and why on page 3? You tell me first.

[DLG]

@ drmyshotgun

Well, since I'm voting Bitmap based on what appears to be scummy play on his part, I'm gonna guess that I think Bitmap is scum for the reasons pointed out in my posts. You should read thoroughly before getting confrotational. Otherwise, you just look foolish.

My point was, if you're going to give a "GO TOWN, I'M GOING TO GIVE MY ALL" speech, you should back it up with play. You do know that reads and opinions are not set in stone, right?

Do you believe in your vote at this time? If so, why?

I was truly confused by your up arrow designation in your first post. But, I think you meant that to refer to inte's Post 49. Is that correct?

[drmyshotgun]

Oh yeah. That's right. Was to inte.
I just posted that post for the sake of posting it.
Although not everyone said it, it should be on everyone's minds. Why confront me alone based on that post?

[Greywing]

@DLG - How the hell am I supposed to know who's scum and why on page 3? You tell me first.

So basically your strategy is to sit around and twiddle your thumbs while everyone else scumhunts for you?

[drmyshotgun]

@DLG - How the hell am I supposed to know who's scum and why on page 3? You tell me first.

So basically your strategy is to sit around and twiddle your thumbs while everyone else scumhunts for you?

So basically you figured everything out already?

[Greywing]

I'm at least making an effort.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Huh. Inte, you're an interesting one. I'll let you slide without explanations for a little while because I happen to agree with you right now. Though, why Grey? Why not Rach?

I'm giving Rach a little rope right now because it seems that I find her scummy in every game we've played so far, which is either an amazing coincidence or that's just how she plays.

VOTE: Andrew94
Because "bandwagon his ass" is not a legit reason for a vote.

Why pick out

that

stupid reason for voting? The game's fraught with dumb votes right now.

1.

vote:JohnnyFarrar

I can't

trust that avatar

Ironic eh?

VOTE: McStab

2.

Definitely.

Damn shame, that. We'll have to put that lynch-proof thing to the test, though.

VOTE: mcstab

Last to confirm, die scum!

This looks like the closest thing to something worth voting for.

Let's make it a wagon.

UNVOTE: Greywing
VOTE: McStab

Are my eyes deceiving me? Is that a scum-move bandwagon this early?

I also love how your initial reaction was "which of my posts are scummy?" rather then explaining your actions.

Explain to me the scum motivation behind these two posts. I think I know one, but not the other.

Also I take it you guys haven't played with Gunny before?

[drmyshotgun]

@Greywing: Me too.

[DLG]

@ drmyshotgun

Because, you're the one who posted it and no one else did?

I mean, actions should match posts, right? I don't subscribe to the theory that posts have no intentions.

I'm always interested in how/when/why players vote. Please answer my questions about your vote.

[drmyshotgun]

I think GreyWing is a hypocrite. Scummy of him to ask me and Johnny the question on page 2.
I think Rach is pretty scummy too. She is trying to take things easy and go with the flow commenting small bits here and there.

@DLG - I posted that because I needed to post that. I always post that.

[Greywing]

Explain to me the scum motivation behind these two posts. I think I know one, but not the other.

Also I take it you guys haven't played with Gunny before?

#1 was a random vote. By itself, it's not scummy. What was scummy was the fact that he attacked DLG for voting the exact same person. It was pretty clear that DLG was testing for reactions with his vote, and Bitmap bit (pun not intended.)

Never played with him before. Is this his regular playstyle?

[Greywing]

I think GreyWing is a hypocrite. Scummy of him to ask me and Johnny the question on page 2.

What's hypocritical about my actions exactly? I picked up a scum read and, at the time I posted, you two had both posted minutes before. I wanted discussion.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Never played with him before. Is this his regular playstyle?

Just read Meta's quote in Gunny's sig. You'll understand.

[drmyshotgun]

Urgh...Johnny, that means you agree to that right?

@Grey: Okay okay okay. I thought you were hypocrite to have asked me the question of who's scum and why without posting such info yourself. But nvm.

[RachMarie]

LOL Cute Gunny, you DO know that Meta is always scum, even when he derps badly and forgets he is lol, hes a cool dude though, just always scummy.


Off to get ready for the sleep study will do more this weekend.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Urgh...Johnny, that means you agree to that right?

lolno I just love that quote. sets peoples' expectations low so you surprise them when you do good.

[DLG]

Just read Meta's quote in Gunny's sig. You'll understand.

Hey, so, how about a Policy Lynch on drmyshotgun? Ya know, to avoid the inevitable heartburn?

That isn't an entirely facetious comment. I abhor trying to separate derp from scum. Still, I think I'm leaning more towards Town on drmyshotgun. The back and forth with Greywing where he admits he was mistaken just seems more like a Town back-off than a scum retraction.

You got any kind of thoughts on Bitmap currently?

[inte]

yes, lets hear some thoughts on Bitmap

[drmyshotgun]

Urgh...Johnny, that means you agree to that right?

lolno I just love that quote. sets peoples' expectations low so you surprise them when you do good.

xD

[Bitmap]

I also love how your initial reaction was "which of my posts are scummy?" rather then explaining your actions.

Well, don't I need to know what posts you are mentioning? Maybe next time you could quote or say the post numbers so I can at least know what I'm defending against?

1. It was a random vote in RVS because I was making a relationship between his avatar and the words "trust that avatar".

2. I honestly didn't know it was role-fishing. Lol. I just thought it was kind of scummy that you would make a bandwagon this early.

DLG and Grey make good points here. And to answer BK's question No I am not afraid to put a 2nd vote on someone or even a 3rd or so on, right up to the hammer. BUT I like to have something to go on for that not just RVS. Now that discussion seems to be starting...

UNVOTE:

You seem kinda fishy here.... Mind explaining yourself a tad more? Besides the points already made it is quite possible for scum to make towny points and town to make scummy points, but the mindset usually varies. You seem more focused on worrying about appearing scummy. Scum know they are scum, and that can affect their mindset.

VOTE: Bitmap

Ummm, honestly, I just wanted to know what posts he was referring to. Everyone have different perspectives and the first post he mentioned doesn't really seem scummy.

"Besides the points already made

it is quite possible for scum to make towny points and town to make scummy points, but the mindset usually varies.

"

I don't get that line above fully. How does that affect me being scum? Can you explain how that ties with me being scum? Are you saying I made a move because I know more information because I'm possibly scum in your perspective?

Unvote, Vote:Bitmap

You concede that there was one scummy post in the first place?

Where did I say that? I just asked for him to point out which posts that he thought were scummy. How does one defend themselves from an ambiguous attack?

Seriously, who can trust that? Just LOOK at his avatar. Its like the batsignal of trust, except its so obvious the joker hijacked it. Stab mcstab!

You pretty much explained my thought process in RVS. That's what I was thinking as well. I found it ironic him saying "I don't trust you" with his avatar being trust itself. Lol.

bandwagon his ass

unvote vote bitmap

If you are going to "bandwagon my ass" at least explain why. Everyone above at least gave content to why to "bandwagon my ass" but I still don't believe my ass is bandwagonable. Lol.

[Bitmap]

@ Bitmap
See above, but worse for being fourth.

What's scummy about me wanting a wagon on a player that hadn't posted?

My post was there for you to see. Explain how you could, at the same time, join the wagon I called for, and call it scummy

after

andrew94 expressed some problem with my post.

I just thought it was scummy for you to do that this early. I "joined the wagon" apparently cause I made a random vote due to his avatar during RVS.

[Greywing]

Unvote, Vote:Bitmap

You concede that there was one scummy post in the first place?

Where did I say that?

I just asked for him to point out which posts that he thought were scummy. How does one defend themselves from an ambiguous attack?

You said that here:

I'm lost. Where's the second scrummy post?

You acknowledged that you'd already made one scummy post, and wanted to know what the second was.

@ Bitmap
See above, but worse for being fourth.

What's scummy about me wanting a wagon on a player that hadn't posted?

My post was there for you to see. Explain how you could, at the same time, join the wagon I called for, and call it scummy

after

andrew94 expressed some problem with my post.

I just thought it was scummy for you to do that this early. I "joined the wagon" apparently cause I made a random vote due to his avatar during RVS.

So, why did you decide to switch from one random vote to another? Coincidentally, moving your vote to the person with a growing wagon?

[DLG]

Well, don't I need to know what posts you are mentioning? Maybe next time you could quote or say the post numbers so I can at least know what I'm defending against?

Seriously, how many posts had you made at that time? That's a pro forma defense that is not really applicable, here. It's scummy.

2. I honestly didn't know it was role-fishing. Lol. I just thought it was kind of scummy that you would make a bandwagon this early.

Hey, um, could you point me to where anyone accused you of role-fishing? I don't see that anywhere, and this kind of distortion is scummy.

Where did I say that?

I'm lost. Where's the second scrummy post?

I don't know what to make of this. I'm unsure if

anyone

could be this unaware of their own posts.

I found it ironic him saying "I don't trust you" with his avatar being trust itself. Lol.

Were you unaware that yours was the fourth vote on McStab?

I just thought it was scummy for you to do that this early.

But, why? I mean, I know exactly what I was doing. I want to know why you considered it scummy.

Pedit:
Some of this was already addressed by Greywing.