Open 421-Pamplona II: Electric Bullgaloo! Game over

[BK201]

Uber used strong words as scum in NY152. I don't think its a tell either way.

[BK201]

I am pretty sure Uber is town this is typical of his townie play.

Not to re-live open 408 but don't trust Uber just because he is making a big analytical post. I'm sure the past two games where he found all/most of the scum has encouraged Uber to continue to act that way regardless of alignment.

[BK201]

or was that post 324 subtle buddying to Uber? Noted.

[RachMarie]

ahh no I have played in several games with Uber and he was town in all of them I have not seen him play as scum, so I am not sure how he would play as scum.

[Greywing]

ahh no I have played in several games with Uber and he was town in all of them I have not seen him play as scum, so I am not sure how he would play as scum.

So, if you've never seen him play as scum, how are you so certain that he's Town?

[UberNinja]

@Johnny:

Another prod-dodge post to tell you guys to not lynch until I get here

If I see another post like this I may just kill you.

I don't think Scums would use such strong words thus fully showing up in public.

Why are you playing like a moron in this game when you were halfway decent in Open 408?

I'm suddenly very confused.

[RachMarie]

I said pretty sure not FOR SURE 100%. At this point, I have not ruled out anyone as confirmed town or scum.

[Greywing]

I still don't see how you can get a Town read from him based on his meta, when you have no idea how he plays as scum. His scum meta could be very similar.

[UberNinja]

My scum games are on my wiki.

Stop WIFOMing, Greywing.

[drmyshotgun]

@Johnny:

Another prod-dodge post to tell you guys to not lynch until I get here

If I see another post like this I may just kill you.

I don't think Scums would use such strong words thus fully showing up in public.

Why are you playing like a moron in this game when you were halfway decent in Open 408?

I'm suddenly very confused.

Meaning?

[DLG]

There seems to be a bunch of meta arguments as opposed to focusing on actual scumminess within this game. Personally, I think meta is abusable and of little use as a scum-hunting tool, but whatever.

I feel like I've missed something and plan to re-read the game to see what.

I want answers from Near because I think the espoused reason for voting Bitmap doesn't make sense. It feels like a scummy attempt to provide "original reasoning" and not be accused of sheeping.

VOTE: Near

[Bitmap]

@DLG: Why does examining other people's games not work out that well as a strat?

[inte]

@DLG: Why does examining other people's games not work out that well as a strat?

People who are meta aware take advantage of it

[JohnnyFarrar]

@DLG: Why does examining other people's games not work out that well as a strat?

People change their game up sometimes. Or try new things. Or have off games. Playing dynamically should not be punished.

[UberNinja]

Just because playing dynamically should not be punished doesn't mean that meta is useless.

[Nobody Special]

Rainbowdash replaces Hyperion effective immediately.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ohai dashie

[DLG]

@ inte
Do you get any sense of Bitmap buddying/whiteknighting you?

@ Bitmap
What do you think of Near's vote on you? You've been fairly vocal about seeing others voting you being scum. But, no comment on Near?

@ RachMarie
Who's scum? Why? There's a dearth of scumhunting in your posts. This fluff posting without contribution is scummy.

Near needs votes, now.

Other acceptable votes are RachMarie and Bitmap.

Upon re-read, I wonder if I'm falling prey to thinking Bitmap is just too scummy to be scum. There's so much that is scummy in his posts.

@ Greywing
I don't see how inte attacking BK201 over BK201's L-1 vote on Bitmap is a distraction or anti-Town. What were you seeing, there?

[Near]

There seems to be a bunch of meta arguments as opposed to focusing on actual scumminess within this game. Personally, I think meta is abusable and of little use as a scum-hunting tool, but whatever.

I feel like I've missed something and plan to re-read the game to see what.

I want answers from Near because I think the espoused reason for voting Bitmap doesn't make sense. It feels like a scummy attempt to provide "original reasoning" and not be accused of sheeping.

VOTE: Near

I don't mind sheeping but I forget why I was voting for Bitmap LOL. BRB

[Rainbowdash]

Ok.... painfull skim read

1) Somepony needs to explain all the Grey hate... because he is one of my strongest town reads
2) Inte I think might be town, but may also be more wrong than anypony in the game and the caustic play needs to stop now
3) Does everypony here know my basic theory about stuff in these games? You should look it up, last C9++ I basically broke the game if Hikari wouldnt have fakeclaimed and others would have known my vig meta. Read into it, theoretically we should claim early in this setup, especially if there ever is a non-goon scum flip. Deja vu feelings.
4) DJD isnt dead. This is confusing since he is scum.
5) Bitmap is probably town given the L-1 reaction of actually attacking BK.

Vote DoubleJD

These wagons going on now are just ugly and reactionary. Sanity went out the window right after Bit hit L-1 closely followed by civility. Lets catch them and actually start playing a little less emotionally, most of us know how much knee jerk reactions can just cost town the game so those need to quit now.

Case later, for now - other stuff I need to take care of.

[Near]

What?? DLG, I didn't provide ANY reason why I was voting for bitmap. I just said Bitmap or Greywing..........

Discuss what you are talking about.

[Bitmap]

@ Bitmap
What do you think of Near's vote on you? You've been fairly vocal about seeing others voting you being scum. But, no comment on Near?

Actually, I had a discussion (not about this game) about Near as a player with another mafiascum player. He told me that to watch out for him especially as a scum player. I actually didn't notice Near as much because of how little content he is putting, as for everyone else who has put barely any conversation. I'm against lynching someone just because they lurk but I would have no problems if there is evidence to back it up.

I honestly wish that our town would be more vocal like me, you, DMS, Inte, and Grey. Near has probably provided very little content this whole entire game and I was hoping sooner or later he(Rach and everyone else who hasn't been posting much) would actually post more but I'll do an ISO on Near.

Vote Greywing

Actually I am torn between Greywing and Bitmap. Bitmap

wagon seems better

, but maybe they are scums together anyway.

Vote Bitmap

So why are you voting for Greywing/Me again? You're sheeping with putting no real effort in this game. Can you explain your vote and actually help the town by posting more and adding more to the conversation?

And that's the only ISO I can put up due to how little he posts.

[drmyshotgun]

VOTE: DoubleJD
Sheeping on RBD.

[Bitmap]

What?? DLG,

I didn't provide ANY reason why I was voting for bitmap.

I just said Bitmap or Greywing..........

Discuss what you are talking about.

Actually I am torn between Greywing and Bitmap.

Bitmap wagon seems better

, but maybe they are scums together anyway.

tl;dr: You voted me cause the "wagon seems better".

[Bitmap]

I don't mind sheeping but I forget why I was voting for Bitmap LOL. BRB

/headdesk

Seriously? You couldn't even come up with a half-assed lie?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Near