History Mafia Mini Theme - 1358 Game Over!

[Amrun]

Seems townish to me so far; not a particularly strong read either way, though.

[ChaosOmega]

Prod dodge. Super tired right now, will post tomorrow.

[Bitmap]

I just like L-1 pressure because it puts IceGuy in a position that would reveal his alignment better.

How - by him revealing his role?

That's what happens at L-1. Didn't you originally vote IceGuy for rolefishing?

I did but I retracted because I wasn't sure if I should just ignore it or throw more pressure on him. The massclaim thing is throwing me off.

If IceGuy ever flips (unlikely), Bitmap is 100% a buddy. Could be scum independently.

So you think it's okay for YOU to rolefish, then?

No... I took that vote off cause it would be rolefishing which is scummy. I mean, that's why I kind of want to drop the whole IceGuy thing.

But you said far after that that "you

wouldn't mind

L-1 pressure" on him.

If someone was up to pressure vote him, I would have no problem with helping out.

[Amrun]

And then he'd get to L-1 - then what?

[Bitmap]

And then he'd get to L-1 - then what?

Umm... I thought magic just happened if you make someone go up to L-1.

[Amrun]

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[IceGuy]

Seems townish to me so far; not a particularly strong read either way, though.

Why do you consider DCL town and Bitmap scum?

[Quilford]

prododge!

more meaningful stuff coming really soon, i'm just going through my games atm in fact!

[Quilford]

Okie dokie tutti frutti.

Sorry MattP but Staeg ain't scum anymore. UNVOTE:

In fact call me crazy but I've got this really weird feeling that all the current squabbling is probably an orgy of Town on Town, a feeling that was strongly reinforced when I checked the activity overview to see that

almost half the friggin game

has made 5 posts or less each whilst the other half totals 106 posts? That's right: ChaosOmega, Vash, MichelSableheart, Shamrock, iDanyboy, and Scooby's posts altogether comprise just over 1 in every 6 posts total??

So much scum is wallowing in that swamp of lurkers. Let's heat it up.

[Quilford]

Okay so we'll wait for Vash to do his post by post analysis because those things are a *goldmine* for fast alignment determination. Hint: if he ends up not posting one OR he posts a shitty one, he's scum. Nevertheless I itch to vote him because offering a post by post is just typical scum appeasement for lurking. Then they put the analysis off forever and ask for replacement under the guise of not being able to keep up with the pace of the game.

ChaosOmega looks really really super duper textbook scum. The first three of his posts are stirring up shit about nameclaiming and setup spec, and then he chucks in some unexplained reads - scroll down - (which I admit I do too, but these ones are bad

because if he was

actually

engaged in his set-up discussion, you'd think he'd have some pretty strong reads on the other people doing it too. He doesn't.

< this is a really good reason to vote him) And then his latest post is a prod-dodge. Lynch with fire, imo.

Michel I like because his posts are at least pretty meaty and he goes out of his way to interact with other people unlike the other lurkers here. No problemo.

Shamrock is also okay because his voting matches what he's been interested in (the rolefishing shenanigans [NB THIS IS WHAT CHAOS WOULD BE DOING IF HE WERE TOWN]). His thought processes follow and are clear without him doing anything like stating the obvious. If he's not posting much, it's probably because site meta shift between when he last played?

iDanyboy I don't like because he launches onto Bitmap for nameclaim shenanigan related reasons with no prior discussion on the shenanigans in the first place. Also this post is just really, really bad:

I think you are mafia though and you was bussing him and then you used any reason you could to get your vote off him.

scooby's meh. My gut feeling is that he's just lagging town who'll probably have to replace out at some point. :/

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Proposal: probably one and even quite likely two scum are within Vash, ChaosOmega, iDanyboy. Let's lynch one. VOTE: ChaosOmega

[MattP]

You give me disappoints quilford a lot of them

However you can live for your most recent post for diverting attention from the bitmap wagon

Also now that staeg wagon feasibilty lost steam ill say I like dcl's vote on staeg, nice n juicy

[Nexus]

"Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past" - George Orwell

Votecount 1.3:

Bitmap (5): Staeg, iDanyboy, ChaosOmega, Shamrock, Amrun
Staeg (2): MattP, DCLXVI
DCLXVI (1): IceGuy
ChaosOmega (2): MichelSableheart, Quilford

Not voting (3): Bitmap, scooby, Vash

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is 8am (BST) on the 30th July

scooby and iDanyboy have both been prodded.

[Quilford]

You give me disappoints quilford a lot of them

However you can live for your most recent post for diverting attention from the bitmap wagon

Also now that staeg wagon feasibilty lost steam ill say I like dcl's vote on staeg, nice n juicy

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Read my point on ChaosOmega I implore you. IMPLORE YOU.

And can we agree that it is likely NOT ALL THE SCUM ARE IN THE PEOPLE POSTING FREQUENTLY? <-- like I actually want a legit answer to this question. gimme gimme

[Quilford]

Ohey, Michel's *already* voting Chaos? Golden.

[MichelSableheart]

I'll be away for a long weekend, and won't be able to post on friday, saturday or sunday.

V/LA till monday 23th

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Staeg's #30 doesn't feel like rolefishing, because he also states he's fine with beneficial. Which means there's no immediate pressure for a lynch, and so also no immediate pressure to claim info.

@MattP #105: if you feel Bitmap is newbtown, then why pressure him when he has a strong wagon against him? Feels like you might be trying to help a bandwagon along without committing on it.

@Bitmap: I have to agree with Amrun that you're changing your opinion on Iceguy quite a bit. You're switching back and forth on him. I disagree with him when he claims it's suspicious, but it is rather confusing and doesn't really help us. Could you please state that you have no clue when you have no clue, rahter then mention an opinion that changes every few seconds?
@Amrun: I would believe that newbie town, who starts out with virtually no information, would have a far more difficult time forming opinions then newbie scum would have. Bitmap's flipflopping is therefore more likely to come from town to me.

@666: I'm still waiting for the answer to the question I asked you in #68. Your post #117 is significantly lagging in content.

Not only is ChaosOmega posting few and far between, but he isn't adding when he is posting either. Good place for a pressure wagon, he needs more votes. Good voting by Quilford, more people should follow his example.

[Quilford]

ChaosOmega looks really really super duper textbook scum. The first three of his posts are stirring up shit about nameclaiming and setup spec, and then he chucks in some unexplained reads - scroll down - (which I admit I do too, but these ones are bad

because if he was

actually

engaged in his set-up discussion, you'd think he'd have some pretty strong reads on the other people doing it too. He doesn't.

< this is a really good reason to vote him)

Like guys I really think this is a super legit tell. Townies don't pursue a subject for more than half their posts and then suddenly vote with no indication whatsoever that they've drawn any conclusions from their activity. It sensey no makey.

I was so excited when I had this revelation that I had a massive eureka moment so let's sustain my high and vote accordingly.

[MattP]

Reading through CO's ISO

I don't speculate about that quilford. Ask me why in a week or two

Nexus, shamrock is voting bitmap I would bold this but I'm on my phone

MSH: I used his response to clear him. That's not helping a bandwagon along

[Staeg]

unvote
Vote: CO

would still vote bitmap and dcl if need be

[MattP]

The things I dont like about CO are his read on quilford and his vote on bitmap. His lurkiness during the push on bitmap sucks too

I don't know how I feel about the people on it

Staegs quick jump bothers me especially because he would still vote bitmap and that wagon has steam so wtf is up with the switch

[Staeg]

I would still vote them cause they're my fucking scumreads.

[MattP]

Let me explain this slowly for you

Bitmap had five votes and nothing has changed your scumread on him

Chaos had two votes and you switched to him as soon as a case was brought up on him

Why did you flip on a strong scumread with a big wagon that had steam

[Staeg]

Because Quilford's convinced me to such an extent that CO is a stronger scumread?

[MattP]

blublublubbluh

abluh abluh abluh

[iDanyboy]

Also this post is just really, really bad:

Why? What's so bad about it :/

Prove it. Evidence triumphs all. I would like to see quotes and how those quotes led you to that conclusion.

Blatant. Role. Fishing. No.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: IceGuy

You vote him nothing bad here.

Hmm, actually I think I know what you are up to and that's actually sort of townish now that you explained it.

UNVOTE:

You jump ship as soon as you can because he is your scum buddy and you don't want to vote him.

Our goal is to find scum, not lynch noobtown.

That's not a defense.

scooby's meh. My gut feeling is that he's just lagging town who'll probably have to replace out at some point. :/

What makes him lagging town and I'm not?

I would still vote them cause they're my fucking scumreads.

Then why would you unvote him...

[MattP]

Dany vote staeg