Open 421-Pamplona II: Electric Bullgaloo! Game over

[McStab]

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still haven't heard anything from RachMarie that is convincing me to change my vote; I'd like some added pressure on her, myself.

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ainbow, I'm also unfamiliar with the advantages of massclaiming in this setup?

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ne could force scum to claim, I suppose, but they'll figure out our town PRs far quicker than we'll figure out scum.

L

eaving the RachMarie issue behind for now, I'd say given the amount of lurking, there's a good argument to be made for lynching a lurking player more than the active ones.

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very lurker is at least anti-town, if not actual scum.

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ops, watchers, trackers etc. should also investigate some of the lurkers tonight IMO, I think there's a good chance that's where the scum will be.

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r at least it would give us some confirmed innocents out of people who would normally read null.

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resumably we have at least some PRs capable of investigations.

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think today provides us a bigger advantage.

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s BK says, the longer they have to think and talk about it the better they'll be prepared to react.

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y gut says a massclaim today will trip up the scum.

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ainbow, just so no one can misunderstand, what specific roles, if they exist, should claim in each tier?

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r should we simply ask each person to claim one at a time, as opposed to tiered?

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et's start with Rach and Bitmap claiming first if we don't go in tiers; they seem to be the biggest wagons today.

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ither way, I don't really know the best way to do it, but a massclaim today strikes me as the best option.

[RachMarie]

Wait a minute isn't a role cop a mafia position? It usually is, at least in most of the games I have played.

[McStab]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... _Cop_Roles

Did you read the setup?

[Bitmap]

Wait a minute isn't a role cop a mafia position? It usually is, at least in most of the games I have played.

You're getting confused with 2 of 4 setup and this one.

[RachMarie]

Yes I read the setup on JK9++ and it is VERY confusing. a lot of statistical math which is not my strong suit. My eyes kinda glazed over after a while. Even Dashie's explanation of how we were to mass claim, I had to read two or three times before it made sense.

(Of course lately my brain has not been functioning fully with all the stress around here and such).

Yeah I play a lot of newbies which are the 2 of 4 setup. And even the Open game I am modding is basically like a newbie game but with 2 picked out PRs (tracker and JK) and it is called JK9.

[McStab]

Kk, now that we have that over with, where is Johnny and DJD's claims? We have doc protection, and it does no good to hide information.

From here on in, anyone hiding or lying about their role will be pursued by me to be lynched at the quickest possible point.


Get your claim out there. With three doc claims and no jailkeeper we've certainly caught two scum, so we really ought to quickly establish that there is no jailkeeper.

[JohnnyFarrar]

I guess we're not taking turns anymore? Also why are we accepting JD's "I must go last" plan?

[Bitmap]

Holy shit, someone just RNG who popcorns next and let's get this over with. We have Johnny, DJD, and inte left.

[inte]

I claim after DJD, i've got reasons

[Rainbowdash]

I would try and order stuff but I really have all remaining players around even level.

Lets do this

@DJD/JF/inte - Whichever of you are going to claim JK, claim JK and popcorn to somepony else.

I sincerely doubt that there is no JK in this setup so they claim next as they are most confirmed player, then they can pick from the last two.

Yeah im breaking my "not talking" thing but I think it should be said

Also shameless plug my game is in signups if anypony has time... come play the sequel to a best flavor/smooth operator nommed game.

[DoubleJD]

Im going to bed soon, and inte is prob town anyway.

IM HIDER.

cleverly hidden

[inte]

well im a tracker

[inte]

no crumb because this whole time i thought i was vanilla

lel

[DoubleJD]

JF jailkeeper? Please so no omg!

[inte]

i swear to god if there is no jk, i think we just won the game

[McStab]

I don't see why a Jailkeeper is confirmed. Doc is an easy claim for scum, gives them an excuse to target town players. Seven people by my count have claimed PR:

inte
DJD
MS
JF
BitMap
Near
DMS


Odds of seven PRs existing is less than 1 percent. All of the players claimed T1. Odds of seven PRs existing and all of them are T1? Virtually impossible.

Then consider that odds of six PRs existing is barely 5 percent. All of the players being T1 reduces those odds once again by a decent amount. Quite implausible.

If I had to guess there's two scum in the PR list, one in the VT list. If no JK pops up then two scum are claiming doc, I doubt all three would though.

[Bitmap]

So I've never really heard about leaving crumbs before. Is it worth doing if you have a PR?

[DoubleJD]

Inte, you had to confirm your role by pm...i did anyway

VOTE: inte

[McStab]

Let's not go lynching anyone till the claims are over and we get to discuss this real well. Johnny, you're up.

[DoubleJD]

Mcstab, did you have to confirm your role by pm. yes/no? Maybe im full of shit!

[inte]

Inte, you had to confirm your role by pm...i did anyway

VOTE: inte

and? i'm in multiple games and i get mixed up sometimes

[McStab]

Yes, I did. I also know that although the mind is sometimes forgetful and may not remember something like that, logic dictates that we can solve this game based on Johnny's claim.

[inte]

So I've never really heard about leaving crumbs before. Is it worth doing if you have a PR?

its especially useful in times like these

[JohnnyFarrar]

As much as I'd like to be something else, I am in fact the JK. Anyone see any scum sticking out?

[McStab]

Well, the math still holds that there are scum amongst the PRs, at least one, with more than 95% chance of being two.