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[MagnaofIllusion]

And he's not voting me because he's probably also scum and doesn't want to be responsible for my death.

Then why aren't you voting him? BK (and this is an assumption based on posts, not fact FYI) and I don't support a Toro lynch today but do support a Peregrine lynch.

[BK201]

PV's stance on everything is scummy as shit.

[BK201]

I don't support a Toro lynch today either, he replaced AI who was voting Yates Day 1 for a long time.

[BK201]

I mean Toro could be scum, Johnny could be scum, hell even Guile could be scum. PV will be scum though.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@BK

- Here's the deal ... I go on V/LA tonight for a week with no expected Internet access. Wherever my vote is at that point is where it is going to likely stay for the rest of the day. Please take a GOOD, HARD look at Johnny and decide whether you think PV has to by your lynch for today ...

[JohnnyFarrar]

I have to go to work now. If I die soon I'd say with some confidence that the final scum team is, in fact, PV and Toro (despite MoI's really intense albeit probably deserved push for my death) with a small chance that Syndrome may be interchangeable with one of them.

I hope with me out of the way the town can actually pull forward and win.

P-Edit: God dangit you guys talk fast. I have a stronger feeling that Toro is scum, but if you're really unwilling to vote him today VOTE: PV.

There. Now make the right decision and kill him for being scummy, not me for being bad.

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Peregrine

You are at L-1.

[BK201]

@BK

- Here's the deal ... I go on V/LA tonight for a week with no expected Internet access. Wherever my vote is at that point is where it is going to likely stay for the rest of the day. Please take a GOOD, HARD look at Johnny and decide whether you think PV has to by your lynch for today ...

Fine I will.

[BK201]

I have got to go out for a bit. Would appreciate no hammer till I post again (which will be later today).

[MagnaofIllusion]

UNVOTE: Peregrine

[PeregrineV]

How would I know your scum games by browsing your topics?

You seem to be pretty familiar with your games:

Well you could open them and look at flips. It strikes me as comically bad you are willing to pull multiple quotes from Heroes of Comedy and link them yet you are too lazy to actually click on games to find them.

My point: You did it for others you claimed were scum.

Someone looks like they are trying to make a point about me not providing links when they can’t provide a reason why I should.

You yourself stated it's pro-town to do so.

There is no Pro-Town reason to not show links to things if you are Town even if they don’t favor you.

Yes I am familiar with my games. Your point? YOU SEEM TO BE MISSING THE POINT – I DON’T CARE IF YOU WANT LINKS FOR WHATEVER REASON. I THINK YOU ARE LIKELY SCUM.

My point: You did it for others you claimed were scum.

viewtopic.php?p=4015202#p4015202 (here, obvscum BenMage is treated to links with names)

And I ask anyone to look at this link and note the differences. Scum-Benmage didn’t ask me to provide links. I provided links to refute his terrible meta attack. That’s so apples to oranges to what you are doing here I don’t even …

So, you will provide links to scum (Ben), but not if asked? This is a different stance than your previous sentence.

So, now you're just plain lying, covering up, and going again town-MoI thought processes.

It’s masterfully bullshit you are pulling single lines out of context. In that game I challenged Benmage to pull links to support his stance and he refused. I’m not making any sorts of meta statements here. Apples to fucking public benches.

Confirmed town-Moi states

There is no Pro-Town reason to not show links to things if you are Town even if they don’t favor you.

You are now taking a different position.

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Scum don't like to claim VT early game, since there is no reason not to continue with the lynch (whats another VT). Early game they like to claim PRs, hoping they can either fake there way through it or get a town PR counterclaim.

And yet it’s like you have no clue since Yates did just that …

Yes, he did. Another reason I did not have a scum read on him.

I was not voting Johnny when you made this post. Toro and MoI were voting Johnny.

Look it’s the technicality lawyer …

[PeregrineV]

@PV

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Why are you dodging my case on you? Why are you dodging response on my long post calling you out from this morning? Why are you focused on meaningless rhetoric about me linking games?

Why are you not voting Johnny?

Iso review is not a case. Give me a case, we'll talk.

Which post form this morning?

Of my remaining scumreads, you are the hardest.

I was voting Johnny, but really hate all the question dodging both you and BK and doing.

[PeregrineV]

Would like to hear more from the rest of the players. This is a circular argument, and Johnny & BK seem to have no opinion on it.

Am I right?
Am I wrong?

[guille2015]

That's a lot of talking.

Here's how I see this. PV, Toro or Johnny are scum.

I am more inclined to vote for PV. If PV is Town, then Johnny is most likely Scum. If PV is Scum. Toro is most likely Scum.

Willing to hammer PV mostly. Doing Johnny if BK changes his mind. In the end we need to all (-1) agree on the vote.

[guille2015]

Would like to hear more from the rest of the players. This is a circular argument, and Johnny & BK seem to have no opinion on it.

Am I right?
Am I wrong?

Yes I would like to hear from Toro about this whole thing.

[PeregrineV]

[PeregrineV]

Would like to hear more from the rest of the players. This is a circular argument, and Johnny & BK seem to have no opinion on it.

Am I right?
Am I wrong?

Yes I would like to hear from Toro about this whole thing.

Is that Toro the guy you were happy shooting/lynching?

[guille2015]

Would like to hear more from the rest of the players. This is a circular argument, and Johnny & BK seem to have no opinion on it.

Am I right?
Am I wrong?

Yes I would like to hear from Toro about this whole thing.

Is that Toro the guy you were happy shooting/lynching?

Yes.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@Peregrine

– passive-aggressively bolding lines doesn’t make them more truthful or valid. You’ve yet to provide one reason why I should be providing links other than you want them.

Also why did you dodge all the points I made about you not having your own thoughts about who is scum and who is Town. You completely ignored those and are cherry-picking points to respond to. That’s very scummy.

I was voting Johnny, but really hate all the question dodging both you and BK and doing.

Fucking scum-claim right here. You have dodged points from the following posts

Post 1594 – Didn’t answer what about your play we should consider as Pro-Town.
Post 1597 – Didn’t address how I called you out on rhetoric (calling me King of scum without any reasons), avoided addressing non-commital to any specific reads (no Town reads stated … everone is possible scum), didn’t address scummy use of statistics to try to dismiss that you are scummy, ignored request to directly link FROM THIS THREAD where I asked you to make a case on yourself, didn’t address point that all your reads stem from other player’s posts (trying to read Syndrome via BK, blaming vote on Benmage on meta posts by me) which shows scummy abdication of responsability

And now you are trying to say that BK and I are scummy for dodging points?

SCUM CLAIM!

VOTE: Peregrine

I’m not waiting for BK to comment later.

My point: You did it for others you claimed were scum.

Well your point is invalid given the situations are completely different. I specifically showed links to refute Benmage’s statements and asked him to provide support for statements he made that were falls. You are taking the second quote out of context given that you’ve not said I’m making false meta link and thus aren’t disproving statements I have made.

You yourself stated it's pro-town to do so.

Yup scummily play - taking a sentence out of context and trying to assert it applies to a different situation.

So, you will provide links to scum (Ben), but not if asked? This is a different stance than your previous sentence.

Twisting on an epic scale here. I showed links proving Benmage incorrect on a meta stance. You are asking for links for no in-thread reason.

You are now taking a different position.

Nope. You are trying to make an apples to rocks comparision and scummily grabbing out of context lines to do so.

Yes, he did. Another reason I did not have a scum read on him.

And it’s a terrible reason and why I suspect it is a bullshit reason.

[MagnaofIllusion]

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[PeregrineV]

Post 1594 – Didn’t answer what about your play we should consider as Pro-Town.

You're scum claiming, since this is a moronic question, and you don't generally ask moronic questions as town.

You should consider all of my play pro-town.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You're scum claiming, since this is a moronic question, and you don't generally ask moronic questions as town.

You should consider all of my play pro-town.

It's ok Peregrine ... I know you are about to be hammered as scum and can only flail about calling the person who engineered the lynch of your Godfather scum.

I notice you dodge the relevent issues of all the points you avoided other than this in continued scum Cherry Picking defense Mod.

The "you should consider my scummy avoidance of anything having to do with the lynch of the Mafia Godfather Pro-Town" point is a nice touch!

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[pappums rat]

Votecount 4.11

JohnnyFarrar - 1 (Toro)
PeregrineV - 3 (BK201, JohnnyFarrar, MagnaofIllusion)
Toro - 1 (syndromeofadown)
MagnaofIllusion - 1 (PeregrineV)

Not Voting - (guille2015)

With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

The deadline for Day 4 is 2 AM EST on August 7, 2012.

[PeregrineV]

Post 1597 – Didn’t address how I called you out on rhetoric (calling me King of scum without any reasons), avoided addressing non-commital to any specific reads (no Town reads stated … everone is possible scum), didn’t address scummy use of statistics to try to dismiss that you are scummy, ignored request to directly link FROM THIS THREAD where I asked you to make a case on yourself, didn’t address point that all your reads stem from other player’s posts (trying to read Syndrome via BK, blaming vote on Benmage on meta posts by me) which shows scummy abdication of responsability

Nope.jpg. You again fail to understand the cirucmstances … you are on the hot seat. Others don’t need to prove things to you. You need to be proving things to us at this stage.

You are telling me to make a town case on myself, which is the opposite of scumhunting.

The entire game is made up of reads stemming from other peoples posts.

pedit: If I were scum, I'd self-hammer. Too bad for you.

Hint: you can improve your scum game by asking for a claim instead of knowing I'll automatically flip town.

[MagnaofIllusion]

You are telling me to make a town case on myself, which is the opposite of scumhunting.

The entire game is made up of reads stemming from other peoples posts.

No I was asking you to actually show you were looking for scum (that's how you prove you are Town). Nice twist attempt.

And another twist. Every one of your reads is not based on anything you post but other people's opinions. You don't want to commit to Syndrome being Town yourself ... you want to base it on BK's logic. Your Benmage vote was based on my meta posts as opposed to points you made yourself. So again ... you aren't generating your own reads but looking to have a scape-goat if they are bad.

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