Otherworld Mafia - Vasta - Over

[Amrun]

Unfortunately, it is also you. 95% of your posts have been complaining about the thread switching. You've done ZERO scumhunting over here, and very little over there. But I am slowly coming around to the idea of you being town anyway.

[Amrun]

@DCL: If your logic is correct, then EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS TOWN and we should no lynch immediately. I don't know how that would work at all, considering no one switched over there at all, that I can remember, besides Tierce going batshit.

[Amrun]

I see no reason to assume that LS is town because a kill happened in the other thread. That is not sound logic.

[quadz08]

So we have a confirmed roleblocker claim, with targets consistent with MoS' townreads. His jump in here today claiming RB on LS reads really superholyshit town to me. MoS doesn't get lynched at this point. Ever.

I think it's pretty clear that the there are no vigs in the game at this point, or at least not one responsible for the kill in Aia. MY GUESS ON WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED OVER THERE:
Bluescum mimics can mimic Redscum kills / kill flavor, and kills can be made cross-thread.

I honestly can't think of anything else that makes sense.I really don't think there are 2 scum in the other thread right now, and even if there were, it still wouldn't explain the change in kill flavors. I am about 100% sure that it's all town, and scum is going to continue picking them off until our group of notquiteconftown is gone.


P-EDIT: No, we absolutely should not assume that LS is town. However, he's no more or less scummy than he was before the actions; MoS' action doesn't seem to have affected NKs in any way.

[Amrun]

Yes, that's basically my point - it's not a really good reason to think he is scum, but he was suuuuuuuper scummy to me anyway.

[Mastermind of Sin]

P-EDIT: No, we absolutely should not assume that LS is town. However, he's no more or less scummy than he was before the actions; MoS' action doesn't seem to have affected NKs in any way.

The existence of crosskills (2 in one thread with no moves into that thread to make the kill) actually makes me wonder if I stopped Yos2 from killing N2, since there was only one death. Thoughts?

[FaerieLord]

Ok, MoS is town. His switch makes a lot of sense, but I still want him to answer why he switched threads.
Also, support the massclaim in Aia. Should be done post-haste. Also, waiting for LS to come in here and claim himself.
As for the kills: No idea

(Side note: Lol, Amrun calling anyone useless in this game)

[Amrun]

FaerieLord - quick, who do you suspect?

[Mastermind of Sin]

Ok, MoS is town. His switch makes a lot of sense, but I still want him to answer why he switched threads.
Also, support the massclaim in Aia. Should be done post-haste. Also, waiting for LS to come in here and claim himself.
As for the kills: No idea

(Side note: Lol, Amrun calling anyone useless in this game)

I obviously switched threads because I wanted scum to think I didn't have a useful ability and thus had no other action worth taking at night.

[Mastermind of Sin]

@DCLXVI:

1) Why would I assume that the guy whose wagon was countered by Tammy's lynch was also scum with her? I'm not convinced he's not scum, but that threw a wrench in my thoughts.

2) I thought the way LS tried to prevent me from being cleared was really sketchy and seemed like scum wanting to prevent PoE scumhunting (and wanting to maintain me as a possible mislynch down the road).

3) In retrospect, I was really unsettled by the way LS jumped on the roflcopter wagon and put him at L-1 so casually.

[Yosarian2]

Did you seriously just ask me what I did on Night 1?

I blocked Yos2 night 2, hence treating him as town yesterday despite him being dumb.

if by "being dumb" you mean "lynching scum despite your best efforts"

[Yosarian2]

@DCL: If your logic is correct, then EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD IS TOWN and we should no lynch immediately. I don't know how that would work at all, considering no one switched over there at all, that I can remember, besides Tierce going batshit.

It's possible.

It's also possible that if a scumteam has guys in each thread, they can kill in either thread; so if there was 1 red left here and 1 red left there, perhaps red can kill in either this thread or that thread. It doesn't necessarily mean there aren't any scum here.

I'm not sure the roleblock tells us anything, but lastsurvivor is still a reasonable lynch; if there are any scum here at all he's likely to be one.

[FaerieLord]

FaerieLord - quick, who do you suspect?

Well, I've been tunneling onto Trollie for most of the game, so I still need to gather my thoughts for this new day, but

roflcopter
Amrun
Nobody Special
Yosarian2
FaerieLord
BBmolla (rp. MattP)
lastsurvivor
Panzerjager
Mastermind of Sin
quadz08
Tierce

Deducing things: I'm out, Panz and BB are claim-out, Yos is obvtown out, MoS is role out, quadz is claim out, rofl is counter-wagon out.

Leaving: You, NS, LS, and Tierce. Most likely from that list is LS, imo, but I wouldn't count out Tierce (who might have a free-switch ability and is pulling off a really ballsy gambit). I won't count you out either, cause I can't think of a reason why you're town, although you don't have much going your way scumwise either. NS I'll call town on gut, and because claiming mimic without knowing the setup is not something I'd do as scum. I'd claim VT or something innocuous.

So yeah, in order: LS, Tierce, You.

Now, a question for you: What do you feel about rofl right now? Your last post was that you don't find him scummy anymore. Feelings now?

I obviously switched threads because I wanted scum to think I didn't have a useful ability and thus had no other action worth taking at night.

That's a bit speculative, to be honest, but a fair enough reason.

[quadz08]

I'll hopefully ISO LS today. He's been a nonentity in my mind for pretty much all game (which is possibly a minor scumtell in and of itself? we shall see) so I need to get a better grasp of what his play has been like.

[quadz08]

HOLY SHIT I AM STUPID

The kill in Vasta was blocked. One of the kills last night in Aia was because either Plum or projectmatt targeted

me

, explaining the dual kill flavor of "shot."

HERPDERP

VOTE: Lastsurvivor

[Tierce]

!

You're right. (Though why they would do it I know not. Someone probably had doubts on your claim.)

VOTE: Lastsurvivor

[quadz08]

Guessing Plum wanted to test it.

[Tierce]

projectmatt protected implosion N2, pretty sure of it. There was no kill in aia that night, that could explain it--whatever scum was in Aia that night, they failed to kill.

And you bastards tried to pin it on me.

[Tierce]

rofl is counter-wagon out.

Nay.
Why are you so sure all the blue scum started here and all the red scum started Over There? There's no saying roflcopter can't be different-scum being wagoned alongside Tammy.

I mean, I haven't even looked at the wagon, I admit, because lol-I-am-useless-Amrun-says-so.

(Goodness knows

I

have been on that position. )

[quadz08]

Hrm. It does seem unlikely based on their respective reads on me that either would've targeted me. Nonetheless, the kill flavors seem pretty clear... I don't see another simple way for there to be two "shot" flavors over there. And in this case, I think Occam's Razor prooooobably applies.

Hell, projectmatt may have targeted me solely because he was convinced I was scum. *shrug* I dunno. Plum was also pretty checked out at the end of the day. so who knows.

[roflcopter]

unvote, vote: lastsurvivor

[Tierce]

AIA:

Who are you talking to, Ludi?

[Amrun]

There's no saying roflcopter can't be different-scum being wagoned alongside Tammy.

Yes, there is. He's not.

And that's your answer, FaerieLord. roflcopter is obviously not red, and he's not blue either, so he's town.

Also, as much as I do find the amount of complaining Tierce has been doing scummy, I do think she made a valid point today about vasta being a much riskier place for her today. It doesn't necessarily mean she's town, as scum keeping up a gambit would have a hard time just saying "oh lol it stopped," but ... idk, scum Tierce claims not to care about threats to her, though.

[Tierce]

Re: threats--that's on NK choices, not flipping around to a thread where I can be LYNCHED after I pretty much rolled over as a sacrificial lamb yesterday. I very much care about being lynched regardless of alignment.

I mean, seriously, go read Tammy's posts. Pretty damn evident she was setting me up, and pretty damn evident Shadoweh was buttering me up. Go look at the way the scum flips interacted with me, I make no sense with either.

[Amrun]

I do agree that you're not red.