WWE Attitude Era 2.0 Game over nWo'd

[WrathChild]

PS
How is me overlooking the Forehead flip in my analysis proof that I am scum?

[pappums rat]

Hey Snake could you answer my question in my last post?

@ mod: if there was enough support for it, would you be willing to shorten days from 3 weeks to 2 weeks? People are not posting enough, and I think shortening the deadlines would add some urgency to this game.

[Nexus]

^I support this

[WrathChild]

Thirded

[SnakePlissken]

Hey Snake could you answer my question in my last post?

@ mod: if there was enough support for it, would you be willing to shorten days from 3 weeks to 2 weeks? People are not posting enough, and I think shortening the deadlines would add some urgency to this game.

Whenever I have been setting up a game, I was always told if there is multiple factions making a scum bulletproof unbalances the game and swings the favour for that scum team. Also, I do get the point you are making but it would put us one step closer to semi confirming a player. We can always still lynch him later on in the game, but this early on in e game it would be counter productive.

[ThAdmiral]

Hear that Kuribo? Apparently we are like scum tag team champs now.

I also agree with pappums about day length. It's dragging right now.

What else...
Yeah I'm still happy with a lance lynch but kuribo should die at some point. Probably tomorrow.

[ThAdmiral]

Actually scratch that.

Vote: kuribo

I think he's a bulletproof sk. It makes the most sense.

[jasonT1981]

Day 2 Vote count 3

Lance 4 - Nexus,I Am Innocent,Pappums,Sawyer
kuribo 3 - WrathChild,Yates,ThAdmiral,
PMysterious 3 - Snake,Lance,Internet Stranger
InternetStranger 2 - PMysterious,The Gobbledy Gooker
WraithChild 1 - PeregrineV
IamInnocent 1 - pidgey

not voting

DavidX
Platinum Shadow
kuribo

V/LA

Yates (Sept 3rd)

With 17 alive. It takes 9 to lynch

(expired on 2012-09-08 13:25:19)

till Day 2 Deadline

Note - A 14 day deadline from day 3 will be considered.

[Lance]

How is me overlooking the Forehead flip in my analysis proof that I am scum?

Oh, so

you

were the one who didn't pay attention to the night one results. Sorry, PeregrineV.

I'm not gonna sit here and call you Scum for it or anything, but I do have to question why you didn't know that Forehead7 (and, presumably, Nero as well) was dead when you made Post 545 -- especially since PeregrineV said here that it's unusual for you to make an oversight like that. In the immortal words of The Hurricane, "Whassupwitdat?"

First, let's quickly get the big 3 out of the way:

Lance is still scummy as ever.

. . .

Otherwise, I'm still good for a Lance lynch more than anyone.

Oh, okay, good. Phew. For a moment there I thought you might actually start using some common sense. Don't worry me like that.

Let me ask you something, Sawyer. I know you're suspicious of PMysterious as well. You said so right here. You even said (and I quote), "Whether it's you or PM today, I'll be happy." This implies that you want to lynch both me and PMysterious but don't particularly care which. Now, a week later, you want to lynch me "more than anyone." What changed between then and now? Why do you now want to lynch me more than you want to lynch PMysterious? What has he done in that time that has made him a stronger Town read than me?

Please note that I am not asking you to explain why I'm Scummier than PMysterious; I'm asking you to explain why he's Townier than me. What pro-Town things has PMysterious done in the past week since you made Post 527? Hell, what pro-Town things has PMysterious done

at all?

[jasonT1981]

Plat Shadow has been (Long over due) prodded... Somehow that slipped my attention. DavidX will be replaced. I had him as V/LA but he has not been seen on site in over 2 weeks. So a replacement is needed

[pappums rat]

Let me ask you something, Sawyer. I know you're suspicious of PMysterious as well. You said so right here. You even said (and I quote), "Whether it's you or PM today, I'll be happy." This implies that you want to lynch both me and PMysterious but don't particularly care which. Now, a week later, you want to lynch me "more than anyone." What changed between then and now? Why do you now want to lynch me more than you want to lynch PMysterious? What has he done in that time that has made him a stronger Town read than me?

Please note that I am not asking you to explain why I'm Scummier than PMysterious; I'm asking you to explain why he's Townier than me. What pro-Town things has PMysterious done in the past week since you made Post 527? Hell, what pro-Town things has PMysterious done

at all?

This looks like some ass-backwards shit to me. The point of scumhunting isnt to find who's the towniest, it is to find who the scummiest people are and vote accordingly. PMY is not pro-town, but that does not make him scum. As I have stated, he plays this way in every game I have seen of his, and at this point he looks like an easy target to me. I still dont want him around at LYLO, but right now I want scum lynches, not lynches on people who dont know how to play the game.

[Lance]

PMY is not pro-town, but that does not make him scum.

No, he's Scum for reasons I posted here. I'm not pushing to lynch PMysterious just to get rid of him and be done with it; I'm pushing to lynch him because I think he's Scum. If you oppose lynching PMysterious, I'd like to hear the reasons why he's worth keeping around.

I find it peculiar that you're telling me what the point of Scum hunting is (as if I don't know how to play the game), then say that you don't want to push lynches on players who don't know how to play the game. Where is your vote again?

[Internet Stranger]

I'm all for lynching PMY as scum.

[kuribo]

Okay, so I'm caught up I think.

I have some questions, but I can't quote properly from my phone, so.

So: TGG is not a PGO. Good PGO play dictates being town as fuck so cops won't investigate you and scum try to kill you. TGG has tried to give himself a free pass to endgame like Katsuki in Gay Mafia.

WrathChild goes after easy targets. First inte, then elmo. Funny ow he focuses on the weak town players while avoiding the CJM lynch. CJM was obvscum. That shoulda been a nice, easy bus for ya.

Not liking PMysterious, either.

IS and pidgey are both town.

Lance is scummy for his interaction wit the CJM wagon.

I dunno, maybe I'm biased against.t Wrath because we all know Elmo is badtown even on his best day. But thhen again, wrath knows elmo is easy picings. Interestin ow he backed off a bit, especially since wrath knows I don't get mislynched.

He also knows my playstyle, having played with me before, so it's disingenuous that he pretends to wonder why I seem abrasive. (i seem abrasive because I'm kuribo)

[WrathChild]

Ok, going back over tomorrow I have a few new theories:

1. Wrathchild is an idiot:

I spent most of the day yesterday getting suspicious at the people that were pushing the CJM wagon with the justification of "Even if he's town it's ok".

So here's the end day vote count where CJM-Scum was lynched:

CJMiller 11 - SnakePlissken, forehead7, pappums rat, ThAdmiral, PMysterious, Nexus, Lance, sawyer, Elmo, pidgey, Nerodoesthesplits

@Lance: As I already explained, I didn't include them in the analysis because as you see in the red, I was doing the analysis off the end of the day vote count. There had been no one else flipped at that time. Yes, I could have made the flips green or something to denote they were town and I didn't because it slipped my mind which was rolling in one direction, but it wouldn't have change my train of thought, which as evidenced by said flips, was sound. On TOP OF THAT, do you think that if I had anything at all to do with any of those deaths, such an oversight would have been made?

[Lance]

Hmm. ThAdmiral, do you think Inte was killed by a Vigilante on night one?

@Lance: As I already explained, I didn't include them in the analysis because as you see in the red, I was doing the analysis off the end of the day vote count. There had been no one else flipped at that time. Yes, I could have made the flips green or something to denote they were town and I didn't because it slipped my mind which was rolling in one direction, but it wouldn't have change my train of thought, which as evidenced by said flips, was sound. On TOP OF THAT, do you think that if I had anything at all to do with any of those deaths, such an oversight would have been made?

Enhance your calm. I already said that I didn't find you scummy for this oversight. Just wanted to clarify a few things, that's all.

[PMysterious]

Okay, I feel that InternetStranger is not going anywhere fast. I'll save him for some other time. For now, let's just get rid of Lance.

VOTE: Lance

[WrathChild]

Pms, why not kuribo? Why is this "get rid of" and not lance is being scummy?

[pappums rat]

PMY is not pro-town, but that does not make him scum.

No, he's Scum for reasons I posted here. I'm not pushing to lynch PMysterious just to get rid of him and be done with it; I'm pushing to lynch him because I think he's Scum. If you oppose lynching PMysterious, I'd like to hear the reasons why he's worth keeping around.

I find it peculiar that you're telling me what the point of Scum hunting is (as if I don't know how to play the game), then say that you don't want to push lynches on players who don't know how to play the game. Where is your vote again?

Im not voting you based on your (in)ability to play the game you disingenuous little fucktwat, I have laid out my reasons why I want you dead and they have nothing to do with playing ability. Your "reasons" for wanting PMY dead are lackluster and IMO are based more on policy and as a counterwagon to yourself than anything else.

Okay, I feel that InternetStranger is not going anywhere fast. I'll save him for some other time. For now, let's just get rid of Lance.

VOTE: Lance

:groan:

Usually when people vote someone they, uh, you know, give reasons. You and Lance both look like you just want to be on each other's competing wagon.

TBQH folks, at this point I dont really care all that much which of Lance or PMY we lynch, I think Lance is scummier but if we can just reach a consensus and finally have this day over with so be it. Everyone is just sitting on their hands doing nothing and this game is going nowhere.

[pappums rat]

Upon looking at the last VC, I think I actually would rather lynch kuribo than PMY, he is more likely scum IMO and it could possibly tell us more about TGG.

[kuribo]

that's retarded because it only works after I flip town:

"oh he was scum, therefore TGG must be PGO" would be stupid and tell you nothing.

"oh he was bulletproof town and therefore TGG is lying" is the only way my lynch tells you anything about the PGO claim

Do you already know my alignment, paps? Was I perhaps missing from your scum QT? Can you link it for us?

[kuribo]

to bbe clear, what I'm saying is that "lets lynch X so we can setup speculate against Y" is not an argument that comes from town. You could just as easily lynch TGG and it still doesn't tell you shit about me.

[I Am Innocent]

Catchup time.

@Yates, Post 537. Your "MATCHING GAME TIME!!" for item #1 suggests that you think I am on the opposite team of CJ. But that is not what you said initially. One more time, you think I am scum right? So do you think I am on CJ's team or another team or not sure anymore? Serious question.

@WC, Post 545, I still read Lance from D1 as scum who is not sure if they should bus cj or not. So not sure I agree with the group you included him in.

@TGG, Post 586, I think Yates and Lance may be teammates. Their answers to my questions about each other did not change that. Yates answer for Lance felt very similar to his stance with CJ actually.

Still say that at least one of Kuribo and TGG is scum. Actually starting to sway toward TGG on that one.

@TGG, this was all I found on why you suspect IS: "Still waiting for IS to scum hunt" Any other reasons? If not, how about others that have been laying low, like PMy?

Like my Lance vote and don't foresee moving it.

[The Gobbledy Gooker]

@TGG, this was all I found on why you suspect IS: "Still waiting for IS to scum hunt" Any other reasons? If not, how about others that have been laying low, like PMy?

Have you ever seen IS play as town? He's bold and obnoxious and his play here is nothing like I'd expect if he were town. I can forsee almost no way we move our vote today because I'm that confident in being right.

[pidgey]

Yeah pretty much what TGG said, IS play has been really different from anything I remember.

Think of this as at least a pressure vote.

vote: IS