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↑ xRECKONERx wrote:He doesn't have a gank orany CC, and his damage output just feels bad compared to people like Nocturne or Xin
Skarner's great pre-6.
You can gank from the riverbush, it really doesn't take much brainpower to realize that in his kit of 3 abilities you only need 2 to gank.
W in for MS. Press Q repeatedly.
Its the same mechanic as Mundo ganks pre6, without having to land a single skillshot.
Or you can keep playing jungle Alistar...
Even KoC knows how to gank as Skarner pre6. It really doesn't take much to put his kit of 3 abilities together, Reck.
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You're also doing it wrong if you're not buying Sheen.
Not buying Wriggles is understandable.
Not buying Sheen is laughable.Last edited by Andrius on Sun Oct 21, 2012 1:49 pm, edited 1 time in total."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."- Andrius
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Jungle may not be my strongest suit but come on.
Also, if you put points in Skarner's E before level 13 you're doing it wrong. Having more shield/haste and slow is far more important, especially since you should be buying philo and HoG before your Sheen anyway.- Bub Bidderskins
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↑ Knight of Cydonia wrote:
Jungle may not be my strongest suit but come on.
Also, if you put points in Skarner's E before level 13 you're doing it wrong. Having more shield/haste and slow is far more important, especially since you should be buying philo and HoG before your Sheen anyway.
Exactly.
The only time I've taken E before 13 in the last few months was as lane Skarner v Cass. Only took one point for the sustain. >_>"This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."- Flameaxe
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My point is that Skarner's main initiation tool when he ganks a lane is his ultimate. You need a champion with hard CC to really complement him well, and if your mid laner or top laner don't have any CC, tough shit, unless the enemy just SUPER overextends. I did buy sheen, actually. I was just underwhelmed with him. I think he is outclassed by a lot of other champions who do exactly what he does, only better (Maokai comes to mind).
Also, I'm starting to love jungling Mummy:
I assume you're "quoting" me, but I never said Rengar jungle was bad, I actually have only tried him in top lane.green shirt thursdays- scotmany12
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↑ xRECKONERx wrote:My point is that Skarner's main initiation tool when he ganks a lane is his ultimate. You need a champion with hard CC to really complement him well, and if your mid laner or top laner don't have any CC, tough shit, unless the enemy just SUPER overextends. I did buy sheen, actually. I was just underwhelmed with him. I think he is outclassed by a lot of other champions who do exactly what he does, only better (Maokai comes to mind).
Also, I'm starting to love jungling Mummy:
I assume you're "quoting" me, but I never said Rengar jungle was bad, I actually have only tried him in top lane.
I don't really think Skarners kit and Maos are remotely comparable.
Mao has a minor knockback, a 1.5-2.5 second root, a sapling "Free ward" and the ult shield/damage after the fact. Passive heals after x spellcasts
Skarner's passive is a CD reduction, q is a aoe damage+slow, w is a shield+move speed buff, e is a health boon on kill, and ult is a 2+ second suppression
They aren't remotely close, Skarner is FAR better about shutting someone down. Both have their uses. its really team comp dependent.One Hamster to rule them all!
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↑ xRECKONERx wrote:I dunno, I equate their Qs as being similar (primary damage tools with a slow vs knockback minor difference), and Mao's root allows him to lock down enemies better than Skarner can.
I'd rather have skarners Q (spamable slow, vs maos non-spamable slow) They just aren't that similarOne Hamster to rule them all!
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