The Dresden Files - Early Days Mafia (Bastard) - Over

[pidgey]

Btw think about your case shmu. First i hammered grey because nothing else was gonna happen and i obv didnt want no lynch. Kondi red team alreayd had a lynch on blepur with grey or at worse a town misslynch. Dunno why they got a guilty thor but think about if for a second and realize what motive they had.

None, it was just for click tomestablish town cred, but the fairy fucked them apples.

Pedit; Ahahahaha!! But y'wont

[Shmugen]

I'm not usually a fan of lining up the lynches, dogface. I very want to hear from Jason. While CKD's case on Grey was bad, it doesn't strike me as the redscum daycop screaming to make sure Grey went down when they had a guilty on bluescum Thor.

[Sixty]

I'm not usually a fan of lining up the lynches, dogface. I very want to hear from Jason. While CKD's case on Grey was bad, it doesn't strike me as the redscum daycop screaming to make sure Grey went down when they had a guilty on bluescum Thor.

Who said anything about

redscum

?

ckd is very likely to be

Grey's buddy

. Grey loves to bus. Look at the wagons that Grey supported on D1, look how he tried to keep weight off one of his known buddies (Kimor/Thor), and see who's left:

The guy who panicked and jumped immediately in line with ICEninja's terrible 'daytalk slip' case. Probably because they

do

have daytalk and ckd honestly thought his buddy Grey had slipped. Grey turned around and slammed him for it. Buddy makes a poor case, launch a lynch on them. He loves that. Grey is very very quick to ditch dead weight in his team, and the Grey/Thor/ckd interactions fit very well as a scumteam.

jason is Town. Nothing inside his brain, but that role is Town. So unless you're waiting on him for :role hijinks:, don't.

[Shmugen]

Oh. Oh yeah, hell, I've even been there, trying to bus Grey after he had slipped

Unvote, vote: CKD

And yes, waiting on Jason for role hijinks.

[Shamrock]

I did find CKD scummy Day 1, but what bothers me now is that if CKD is blue, that means that all three of the biggest wagons towards the end of D1 were on blue scum.

Vote Count 1.16 - As of post 557

GreyIce (9) - ICENinja, curiouskarmadog, Sixty, Shamrock, Albert B. Rampage, Shmugen, kortul, Thor665, StefanB
Thor665 (4) - Konowa, Zdenek, pidgey, Klick
curiouskarmadog (4) - fatlikepig, greenknight, GreyICE, jasonT1981
jasonT1981 (1) - sword_of_omens

I guess it's not impossible - and it's hilarious if it's true - but I'm not sure how plausible it is.

Why is pidgey scum? Just for parking his vote on Jason?

[Sixty]

It's pretty plausible, and it explains why the blue team had so much trouble lifting the wagon from Grey's shoulders. Their semi-viable alternatives were still blue. That wagon dragged for a long time.

pidgey's scumminess has partially to do with jason, but that's a part of a bigger figure (that also includes his ABR vote). He's been sniping from the sidelines, making constant promises to catch up, clearly skimming everything without trying to scumhunt. Even in multiball, pidgey has been known to not be a master of :effort: in trying to root out the other team, so the "it's multiball, if he were scum he would at least be looking for the other team" doesn't apply to him. It's his natural tendency to be lazy scum, and that's what he has been doing, then being So Very Outraged when he gets called scum for it.

pidgey being not-blue also matches with Thor not being in his team--that meta discussion between them was pretty much the only Townish thing this puppyhalf saw from Thor in this game.

So ckd first, because if we have a chance to eliminate a team (if this is 10:4:4 I'll skin MoI myself--14:2:2 doesn't work, 12:3:3 is the most likely), we'd better take it.

[pidgey]

Omgus

[Shamrock]

You may have a point. Actually, thinking back on it a bit more, CKD-blue

would

explain why GreyICE was parking his vote for so long on the clearly immobile/dismantled ICENinja wagon rather than switching to CKD, which was more lively-looking and would have been an entirely plausible hop.

I'll read up on this as well as on pidgey (who I haven't been paying much attention to, tbh) in a bit.

[pidgey]

BTW sixty's case is a metacase ROFL. All to my point ive said in other games that meta should only be used sparcely and maybe for gut reads but HIS CASE IS ALL META WHAAAAAAAAT??????

Besides the point on that im in thor's team, which im not cause im town YEAH!

[Sixty]

Ahem. The designated troll half is on holidays, so let me try to fill in for the fluffiest cloud puppy:


*rests chin on paws*

Sixty is scum.

Omgus

BTW sixty's case is a metacase ROFL. All to my point ive said in other games that meta should only be used sparcely and maybe for gut reads but HIS CASE IS ALL META WHAAAAAAAAT??????

Besides the point on that im in thor's team, which im not cause im town YEAH!

Also, good luck enforcing your flawed views on meta application~

[pidgey]

[Sixty]

There is no way that pidgey's reaction at being called scum is genuine Town here.

Let me present you a comparison from this very game: pidgey's reaction to Thor when Thor questioned his change of behavior read very honest, genuinely irked. Go and look for yourselves at this sequence.

Now compare it with how he reacts to being called scum.

They don't match. The former is actual frustration and irritation at something he is/was trying to change (alignment-null) being used to call him scum. The latter is completely fake. He is attempting to act nonchalant about our read on him, but it's over the top and ridiculously cheesy, without a touch of genuine irritation at being accused of being scum.


There's a ball (ball ball ball

ball

ball

ball

ball

ball

!

) waiting for us out back, so please excuse us. The puppy endorses a curiouskarmadog lynch followed by a pidgey lynch. If you happen to have chew toys and other puppy treats, feel free to let us know. In the meantime, well, ball~~

[pidgey]

How about a pidgey lynch first since you are so sure

[pidgey]

You're not gonna get me lynched AAHAHAHAHHAHA

[Shamrock]

CKD's, GreyICE's, and Thor's actions all really do make perfect sense if they are scum together.
- Grey started attacking CKD long before his wagon or the Kimor/Thor wagon took off and while an ICENinja lynch still looked plausible; he wasn't aware that their whole team would be under heavy fire when he started busing. So it made sense for him to bus when he did.
- Grey was pushing CKD while still voting ICENinja and never jumped on the CKD wagon except as a desperation move at the end of the day, in spite of the fact that was clearly showing much stronger signs of life than the ICENinja wagon and it would have been plausible to jump on from the professed strength of his read.
- CKD was busing GreyICE because, as Sixty said, he thought GreyICE actually

had

scumslipped and because, again, he started doing it before the wagons on any of their members had built.
- So none of this seemed suicidal when they started doing it, it only became that way when the wagons shifted.
- CKD was minimizing the case on Kimor.
- Thor, as soon as he replaced in and saw the state of the game, started spamming "CKD is town CKD is town CKD is town" without explanation. Which makes sense, because clearly one of CKD or Grey was getting lynched at that point.

Yeah, I'm on board with this.

VOTE: CKD

Pidgey analysis to follow in a bit.

[Sixty]

pidgey: Puppies don't negotiate with terrorists. You die Tomorrow.

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Oh hey, and he has just left. Hoping someone will build your defense for you, ckd? Come and play with the puppy.

[Shamrock]

A glance over pidgey's ISO suggests that yeah, he isn't scumhunting, he's just raging, asking stupid questions, and dropping a wall-o-reads once in a while. Also, this is a bit :

I hope klick is town and for now im willing to believe it. Though if he is, not sure if all his powers would work in a non bastard way.

Okay, he gets to be redscum and can die tomorrow.

[fatlikepig]

Phone posting at the moment, so Ill have to digest the CKD case later, but I'm inclined to support it based on D1 interaction.

I have information that there were three non-town aligned players on the lynch wagon yesterday. Given that Thor and Klick were scum, that means there's one scum left that was on the Klick wagon (assuming that the result isn't bastard, which it could well be). I don't intend on full claiming, though, at least until we lynch scum.

[Shamrock]

Exactly

three or at least three?

[fatlikepig]

The way that the PM is worded suggests that it was exactly three, though it doesn't explicitly say either.

[Shamrock]

Any ability that would tell you

exactly

how many scum were on the wagon would be so gamebreaking that I have trouble believing MoI would include it in a game. (In this case, if CKD flipped scum, it would confirm me, you, sword, pidgey, AND Sixty as town.) It's more likely either at least three or a lie.

[Sixty]

I was about to make Shamrock's question.

If it doesn't really clarify either way, I'd be very wary of taking that censor result as gospel.

PEdit: ...that. I'll just go ~over there~ and let someone else be awesome for a while.

[Sixty]

(And yes, that spelling was deliberate. Rome > weirdly spelled MS role names.)

[fatlikepig]

"At least three" makes a lot of sense, actually, since it'd be a clever way of implementing the whole Bastard thing (more interesting than just lying, etc.) which seems like something MoO would do.

And here I was thinking I'd be useful! D:

[pidgey]

Im not redscum!!! WTH!!!

And I also can prove it. Kinda at least but very assuringly so. Will do if I have to but i dont want to right now. Shamrock i still think you are town though so its ok.