Open 459: There is a New Scum in Town. Game Over Town Wins!

[Majiffy]

Oh wow I just realized Maenara is in Aether's slot.

Yeah, this is a great lynch.

[pirate mollie]

Have you read the last two or three posts by Maenara?

so are you saying that maenara looks scummier than kmd? I can't tell....

[Kmd4390]

Maenara is actually probably town. Meta+aetherslot=maenaratown.

[Majiffy]

You can't tell?

Here are some helpful steps:
1) ISO me.
2) See who I'm voting.

Congratulations!

[Majiffy]

The increase in meta reliance on this site is starting to get sickening.

[Kmd4390]

Meh. Maenara doesn't look particularly scummy anyway.

[Majiffy]

Are you reading the same Maenara posts I am?

[pirate mollie]

do you want to point out why maenara looks scummier than kmd whom you have had a firm scum read on since the beginning?

[Majiffy]

Caught up. Finding Majiffy vs. Nachomamma as hilarious as always, which is to say not at all.

Fe is scum, but I ain't hammering tonight.

Don't like Director; think he's sorta scummy, though it may just be contentless town posting.

Also, Kmd talks way too much about how good the Fe lynch is for someone who isn't on it.

> Wasn't on the Fe lynch himself.

Blatant attempt to misconstrue what KMD says.
More completely scummy behavior.
More completely scummy behavior.

By my count, you're at L-1.

A reaction would be nice.

Attempt to look like the vote was a pressure vote; allows him to slip out of responsibility upon a KMD town-flip.

Add that to the fact that he's in the Aether slot which has been scummy since the get-go and you've got a prime second scum lynch.

[uctriton00]

prod dodge, reading tomorrow at work

[Maenara]

Caught up. Finding Majiffy vs. Nachomamma as hilarious as always, which is to say not at all.

Fe is scum, but I ain't hammering tonight.

Don't like Director; think he's sorta scummy, though it may just be contentless town posting.

Also, Kmd talks way too much about how good the Fe lynch is for someone who isn't on it.

> Wasn't on the Fe lynch himself.

I had just caught up, and I wanted some more interaction with people. Why would I ever have refrained from bussing him if I was scum?

By my count, you're at L-1.

A reaction would be nice.

Attempt to look like the vote was a pressure vote; allows him to slip out of responsibility upon a KMD town-flip.

The hell? No it isn't. I'm voting KMD to lynch him; I just said it because I needed a votecount and because KMD's 'K' was sorta freakin' useless.

Add that to the fact that he's in the Aether slot which has been scummy since the get-go and you've got a prime second scum lynch.

Yadda yadda yadda, how exactly do you propose I defend myself against accusations based on actions that

aren't mine

?

[Nachomamma8]

Why would I ever have refrained from bussing him if I was scum?

aaaaa

Yadda yadda yadda, how exactly do you propose I defend myself against accusations based on actions that aren't mine?

AAAAAAAA

Unvote, Vote: Maenara

[Maenara]

Yes, that was certainly some fool-proof reasoning right bloody there.

Get that vote somewhere bloody useful or try actually saying something. I'm a wee bit tired of whole kind of mess. Player X looks at my posts, finds something he or she wouldn't do while town, or at least wouldn't think of themselves as doing, and assumes that this is also the case for me. They vote for me. I get two choices - Defend myself or leave it be. If I do the latter, scum gets an easy mislynch and I no longer have a game to be in. If I do the former, well, I'll be damned if people don't accuse me of being scummy for defending my bleeding self.

Do your own freaking footwork and argue for why I should be lynched,

or stop voting for me.

[Nobody Special]

Well, that escalated quickly.

unvote

Vote: Maenereae

[buldermar]

KMD being on L-1 and you're voting him. Then you write this:

KMD why are you vehemently defending me? Explain your town read on me thoroughly, please.

Perfectly fine...

And then you just vote Maenara instead?

VOTE: Maenara

Pourquoi???

[borkjerfkin]

Remind me never to get in two games at once again. Catching up.

[penguin_alien]

I'll grant that given the time that passed between when Maenara first posted and when the hammer vote was placed last phase, her not being the one to do so is reasonable. I can't imagine that if she'd placed the hammer in any of the posts she made within 45 minutes of starting to post it wouldn't have clouded the issue today, particularly given that she was replacing into a spot that had been either incredibly disruptive or utterly useless the whole phase.

However, given that all we'd seen from the slot was the aforementioned activity, I think some pressure is reasonable. I'd be surprised if anyone's expecting Maenara to explain Aether's postings given how inexplicable he was in all the games cited in the thread before he was force-replaced, but so far what's come out of that spot was Aether-nonsense, Number Six's biggest activity was liking his predecessor's vote on Fizz and thinking Fe's forgetting about town PRs was lazy. It was like everyone was so grateful to have someone not-Aether in the spot that we didn't mind the null activity there.

Maenara isn't doing anything that makes me think 'town' and I particularly don't like this:

By my count, you're at L-1.

A reaction would be nice.

What reaction, exactly? Kmd4390's continued to scumhunt while under pressure and responded to the suspicion on him. More importantly, Maenara's post looks like claim-fishing to me, which makes no sense for someone already on the wagon without any hammer intent declared by my understanding. If Maenara believes Kmd4390 is scum, she should be trying to convince others, not wheedle info out of him.

The more I think about it too, the less I like this whole 'don't want to defend my slot' idea. Yes, replacing into a game is a different situation than playing a spot from the start in my limited experience, but a) you know what you're getting into because your predecessor's posts are right there, and b) I suspect that you have to know that it's not common to be replacing into a super-townie slot, as a lot of replacements come about due to inactivity, which tends to make the slot look scummy. We've had three people in the slot now, and I don't think anyone except for Kmd4390 has called it town recently.

Since Nobody Special isn't going anywhere: VOTE: Maenara

[Kmd4390]

Majiffy, that case...actually...isn't too bad.

Maenara, that was the whole point of the "k". Director's post was pretty useless so I responded with uselessness back. If you aren't going to make a specific point, you aren't going to get a real response.

[Lastsurvivor]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Maenara

Get that vote somewhere bloody useful or try actually saying something. I'm a wee bit tired of whole kind of mess. Player X looks at my posts, finds something he or she wouldn't do while town, or at least wouldn't think of themselves as doing, and assumes that this is also the case for me. They vote for me. I get two choices - Defend myself or leave it be. If I do the latter, scum gets an easy mislynch and I no longer have a game to be in. If I do the former, well, I'll be damned if people don't accuse me of being scummy for defending my bleeding self.

I'm glad you're actually addressing the points people have brought up against you instead of going off on a tangent.

O w8.

[Maenara]

I'm glad you're actually addressing the points people have brought up against you instead of going off on a tangent.

O w8.

Look at the bloody post I was responding to.

How the hell am I supposed to address "Aaaaaaaah"?

[pirate mollie]

guys I seriously wanted to test my theory out and was willing to backpedal on a town read of kmd. can we not even try?

[uctriton00]

I get why people have #708, but I don't like the Maenara wagon. #737 just screams town to me. It's looks like a sincere ATE from someone who is just trying to defend himself from being thrown under a town bus; I can relate.

[Nobody Special]

Do you mean *hate #708?

[uctriton00]

*hate, not have, yes.

[Lastsurvivor]

Look at the bloody post I was responding to.

How the hell am I supposed to address "Aaaaaaaah"?

Fair, but I wasn't just referring to Nacho's points.