Terri Schiavo Mafia 338 - Game over, Terri Dead


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Post Post #225 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:25 am

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Save The Dragons wrote:k, how bout you tell me if you are or aren't terri.
why don't we let armlx decide who goes first?
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Post Post #226 (ISO) » Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:00 am

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works for me.
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Post Post #227 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:32 am

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do do do do......
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Post Post #228 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 12:32 pm

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this is the part of the day where people vote.
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Post Post #229 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 1:12 pm

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I think a prod is needed
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Post Post #230 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:26 pm

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I won't vote for either of you. There's one way out here.
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Post Post #231 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 2:51 pm

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Vote: Armlx
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Post Post #232 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:16 pm

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Armlx just posted.
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Post Post #233 (ISO) » Wed Oct 04, 2006 3:18 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:Armlx just posted.
oops.
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Post Post #234 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:19 am

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Post Post #235 (ISO) » Mon Oct 09, 2006 3:37 am

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Vote: armlx
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Post Post #236 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:10 pm

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Final Day

As Fritzler (Jeb Bush) and Save The Dragons (feeding Tube) debate about who to kill, armlx(Terri Schiavo) decides not to vote for either of them. enraged, Fritzler picks up the feeding tube and beats Terri to death with it.

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Post Post #237 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:22 pm

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armlx were you counting on Fritzler then? When you refused to vote I assumed you must have some kind of one-shot retaliation and we (my side) was doomed due to those first two modkills...
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Post Post #238 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 2:55 pm

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From the chatroom

[20:20] KellyChen449: I was a lyncher who knew his targets role name but not which player
[20:20] KellyChen449: Every night I could investigate someoen to see if they were Terri

[20:20] KellyChen449: Fortunately armlx's side bungled pretty badly
[20:20] KellyChen449: I didn't need my investigation to find out it was armlx

[20:23] KellyChen449: I believe there were 5 people on Terri's side... armlx (nightkiller?), TDA and bethelmark (parents, masons, each had lynch substitution bodyguard ability), Shamrock (pope if dead no lynch next time?), and Fritzler (???)

[20:25] KellyChen449: I did not know if I was town or mafia. But since all the deaths were on mys ide, I made the case that we were pro-town.

[20:25] KellyChen449: I really did not think there were 5 people on armlx' side. I thought just 3.
[20:26] KellyChen449: armlx claimed neurosurgeon/cop. TDA called him out for lying about his role, since TDA's win conditino required armlx to survive. So that made armlx look like scum
[20:27] KellyChen449: And then bethelmark claied his rolename and masonness with TDA
[20:27] KellyChen449: it was obvcious then who those three were.
[20:27] KellyChen449: also armlx's suppsoed guilty was one of the people on my side, who were a bit mor enumerous.
[20:27] KellyChen449: (not that I doubt armlx had an investigatino ability)


"Lyncher who only knows his target's rolename" is one unappealing role. When I got it I figured that even if I claimed a guilty investigation on Terri, she'd claim and be unlynchable (since I assumed I was anti-town).

In general I think people not knowing whether they were town/scum made them very reluctant to contribute. It's hard to try making a case against someone when it's not clear what the common goal of the town is. (I at least was able to tell bethelmark was not on my side...)

Also this lack of clarity was surely responsible for TDA undermining armlx and then bethelmark undermining both of them. One hardly had to try to figure out who Terri was.

It seems a little problematic that we've known for days who we needed to lynch. That also is bound to hurt players' contribution.

Interesting setup. I'm glad we were able to finish it. It is a little bit hard to appreciate the win when my side didn't even have a majority in the endgame though. (This makes me think that armlx was the nightkiller rather than Fritzler.)


Any setup clarifications from the mod?
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Post Post #239 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:10 pm

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Fritzler was the nightkiller, as Jeb Bush. No one on his "side" knew that though, other then some scattered masons, no one really knew who was on his side.

I deliberately did not designate either side as scum/town. I thought there would have been more discussion about this point, but there was not. That is what led fritz/std to kill armlx. It did not seem like any thought went into which of them was terri, or any discussion of it.
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Post Post #240 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 3:40 pm

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Feeding tube was anti-Terry, right? Surely one of the three had to be...

It is hard for me to understand Fritzler being the nightkiller. If he knew armlx was Terri, why would he lynch him? If he didn't know, why didn't he try to nightkill him? Or did he do that night 1?

Edit: and armlx' innocent investigation of Fritzler should have meant something to him I'd think...
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Post Post #241 (ISO) » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:02 pm

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Thought definately went into it. I had armlx pegged as terri a few days before.

Why the hell someone would say "I'm not voting" without a good reason is beyond me. I thought that implied that Fritzler would die in terri's stead.
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Post Post #242 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:17 pm

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Kelly Chen wrote:Feeding tube was anti-Terry, right? Surely one of the three had to be...

It is hard for me to understand Fritzler being the nightkiller. If he knew armlx was Terri, why would he lynch him? If he didn't know, why didn't he try to nightkill him? Or did he do that night 1?

Edit: and armlx' innocent investigation of Fritzler should have meant something to him I'd think...
Feeding tube was pro-terri.

Armlx(terri) only won if he died. Terri wanted to die.
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Post Post #243 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:23 pm

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Did armlx have restrictions of some kind? It is hard for me to imagine armlx' play as that of someone who was trying to die.
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Post Post #244 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:29 pm

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So basically the only way pro-Terri people could've won in endgame was to either:

a) lynch Fritzler

or

b) lynch StD and have Fritzler perform seppuku

And the only ways anti-Terri people could've won in endgame was to either:

a) lynch armlx

b) lynch StD and have Fritzler kill armlx

So technically it really was a 50/50 situation in endgame.
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Post Post #245 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 2:50 pm

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Kelly Chen wrote:Did armlx have restrictions of some kind? It is hard for me to imagine armlx' play as that of someone who was trying to die.
Remember when he claimed cop with a result after a night start? That was pretty bad. And the "not voting" thing near the end.

Though I played pretty badly too (and not intentionally/suicidally), so I'll shut the hell up.

BJ, did armlx know that people would die in his place?
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Post Post #246 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:12 pm

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Man, if you're trying to get killed, there's got to be more blatant crap you can pull than fake claim cop.

I really didn't think claiming a pre-game investigation was that bad. It sounded like confusing modding, but not unbelievable.
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Post Post #247 (ISO) » Wed Oct 11, 2006 7:22 pm

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wait.

so was I the only pro-terri person?
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Post Post #248 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:04 am

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Kelly Chen wrote:Did armlx have restrictions of some kind? It is hard for me to imagine armlx' play as that of someone who was trying to die.
some. He couldn not claim Terri, he could not vote for himself. I don;t remember if there were more
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Post Post #249 (ISO) » Thu Oct 12, 2006 3:04 am

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Save The Dragons wrote:wait.

so was I the only pro-terri person?
No, TDA, bethelmark, and Shamrock were surely pro-Terri as well.

What was raj's night ability? Were there any other night abilities?
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