why don't we let armlx decide who goes first?Save The Dragons wrote:k, how bout you tell me if you are or aren't terri.
Terri Schiavo Mafia 338 - Game over, Terri Dead
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Final Day
As Fritzler (Jeb Bush) and Save The Dragons (feeding Tube) debate about who to kill, armlx(Terri Schiavo) decides not to vote for either of them. enraged, Fritzler picks up the feeding tube and beats Terri to death with it.
Dead - Armlx (Terri Schiavo)
Winners: Those seeking to let Terri die
As Fritzler (Jeb Bush) and Save The Dragons (feeding Tube) debate about who to kill, armlx(Terri Schiavo) decides not to vote for either of them. enraged, Fritzler picks up the feeding tube and beats Terri to death with it.
Dead - Armlx (Terri Schiavo)
Winners: Those seeking to let Terri die
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From the chatroom
[20:20] KellyChen449: I was a lyncher who knew his targets role name but not which player
[20:20] KellyChen449: Every night I could investigate someoen to see if they were Terri
[20:20] KellyChen449: Fortunately armlx's side bungled pretty badly
[20:20] KellyChen449: I didn't need my investigation to find out it was armlx
[20:23] KellyChen449: I believe there were 5 people on Terri's side... armlx (nightkiller?), TDA and bethelmark (parents, masons, each had lynch substitution bodyguard ability), Shamrock (pope if dead no lynch next time?), and Fritzler (???)
[20:25] KellyChen449: I did not know if I was town or mafia. But since all the deaths were on mys ide, I made the case that we were pro-town.
[20:25] KellyChen449: I really did not think there were 5 people on armlx' side. I thought just 3.
[20:26] KellyChen449: armlx claimed neurosurgeon/cop. TDA called him out for lying about his role, since TDA's win conditino required armlx to survive. So that made armlx look like scum
[20:27] KellyChen449: And then bethelmark claied his rolename and masonness with TDA
[20:27] KellyChen449: it was obvcious then who those three were.
[20:27] KellyChen449: also armlx's suppsoed guilty was one of the people on my side, who were a bit mor enumerous.
[20:27] KellyChen449: (not that I doubt armlx had an investigatino ability)
"Lyncher who only knows his target's rolename" is one unappealing role. When I got it I figured that even if I claimed a guilty investigation on Terri, she'd claim and be unlynchable (since I assumed I was anti-town).
In general I think people not knowing whether they were town/scum made them very reluctant to contribute. It's hard to try making a case against someone when it's not clear what the common goal of the town is. (I at least was able to tell bethelmark was not on my side...)
Also this lack of clarity was surely responsible for TDA undermining armlx and then bethelmark undermining both of them. One hardly had to try to figure out who Terri was.
It seems a little problematic that we've known for days who we needed to lynch. That also is bound to hurt players' contribution.
Interesting setup. I'm glad we were able to finish it. It is a little bit hard to appreciate the win when my side didn't even have a majority in the endgame though. (This makes me think that armlx was the nightkiller rather than Fritzler.)
Any setup clarifications from the mod?
[20:20] KellyChen449: I was a lyncher who knew his targets role name but not which player
[20:20] KellyChen449: Every night I could investigate someoen to see if they were Terri
[20:20] KellyChen449: Fortunately armlx's side bungled pretty badly
[20:20] KellyChen449: I didn't need my investigation to find out it was armlx
[20:23] KellyChen449: I believe there were 5 people on Terri's side... armlx (nightkiller?), TDA and bethelmark (parents, masons, each had lynch substitution bodyguard ability), Shamrock (pope if dead no lynch next time?), and Fritzler (???)
[20:25] KellyChen449: I did not know if I was town or mafia. But since all the deaths were on mys ide, I made the case that we were pro-town.
[20:25] KellyChen449: I really did not think there were 5 people on armlx' side. I thought just 3.
[20:26] KellyChen449: armlx claimed neurosurgeon/cop. TDA called him out for lying about his role, since TDA's win conditino required armlx to survive. So that made armlx look like scum
[20:27] KellyChen449: And then bethelmark claied his rolename and masonness with TDA
[20:27] KellyChen449: it was obvcious then who those three were.
[20:27] KellyChen449: also armlx's suppsoed guilty was one of the people on my side, who were a bit mor enumerous.
[20:27] KellyChen449: (not that I doubt armlx had an investigatino ability)
"Lyncher who only knows his target's rolename" is one unappealing role. When I got it I figured that even if I claimed a guilty investigation on Terri, she'd claim and be unlynchable (since I assumed I was anti-town).
In general I think people not knowing whether they were town/scum made them very reluctant to contribute. It's hard to try making a case against someone when it's not clear what the common goal of the town is. (I at least was able to tell bethelmark was not on my side...)
Also this lack of clarity was surely responsible for TDA undermining armlx and then bethelmark undermining both of them. One hardly had to try to figure out who Terri was.
It seems a little problematic that we've known for days who we needed to lynch. That also is bound to hurt players' contribution.
Interesting setup. I'm glad we were able to finish it. It is a little bit hard to appreciate the win when my side didn't even have a majority in the endgame though. (This makes me think that armlx was the nightkiller rather than Fritzler.)
Any setup clarifications from the mod?
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Fritzler was the nightkiller, as Jeb Bush. No one on his "side" knew that though, other then some scattered masons, no one really knew who was on his side.
I deliberately did not designate either side as scum/town. I thought there would have been more discussion about this point, but there was not. That is what led fritz/std to kill armlx. It did not seem like any thought went into which of them was terri, or any discussion of it.
I deliberately did not designate either side as scum/town. I thought there would have been more discussion about this point, but there was not. That is what led fritz/std to kill armlx. It did not seem like any thought went into which of them was terri, or any discussion of it.
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Feeding tube was anti-Terry, right? Surely one of the three had to be...
It is hard for me to understand Fritzler being the nightkiller. If he knew armlx was Terri, why would he lynch him? If he didn't know, why didn't he try to nightkill him? Or did he do that night 1?
Edit: and armlx' innocent investigation of Fritzler should have meant something to him I'd think...
It is hard for me to understand Fritzler being the nightkiller. If he knew armlx was Terri, why would he lynch him? If he didn't know, why didn't he try to nightkill him? Or did he do that night 1?
Edit: and armlx' innocent investigation of Fritzler should have meant something to him I'd think...
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Feeding tube was pro-terri.Kelly Chen wrote:Feeding tube was anti-Terry, right? Surely one of the three had to be...
It is hard for me to understand Fritzler being the nightkiller. If he knew armlx was Terri, why would he lynch him? If he didn't know, why didn't he try to nightkill him? Or did he do that night 1?
Edit: and armlx' innocent investigation of Fritzler should have meant something to him I'd think...
Armlx(terri) only won if he died. Terri wanted to die.
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So basically the only way pro-Terri people could've won in endgame was to either:
a) lynch Fritzler
or
b) lynch StD and have Fritzler perform seppuku
And the only ways anti-Terri people could've won in endgame was to either:
a) lynch armlx
b) lynch StD and have Fritzler kill armlx
So technically it really was a 50/50 situation in endgame.
a) lynch Fritzler
or
b) lynch StD and have Fritzler perform seppuku
And the only ways anti-Terri people could've won in endgame was to either:
a) lynch armlx
b) lynch StD and have Fritzler kill armlx
So technically it really was a 50/50 situation in endgame.
Sup, later.
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Remember when he claimed cop with a result after a night start? That was pretty bad. And the "not voting" thing near the end.Kelly Chen wrote:Did armlx have restrictions of some kind? It is hard for me to imagine armlx' play as that of someone who was trying to die.
Though I played pretty badly too (and not intentionally/suicidally), so I'll shut the hell up.
BJ, did armlx know that people would die in his place?
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some. He couldn not claim Terri, he could not vote for himself. I don;t remember if there were moreKelly Chen wrote:Did armlx have restrictions of some kind? It is hard for me to imagine armlx' play as that of someone who was trying to die.
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