Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[Sir Elton Hercules John]

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[Kawaii]

Looking over the playerlist again, i still think trollie & matt's thingy day 1 with my fakekill showed them as town. Iece and bt are my less likely ythan partners- not to say i find them protown, just not linked. Zoid is up in people's shit- getting town off that. Everyone else is confirming themselves or being blocked by scum. So yeah, left with dram, tbm, mini lib, volk..... pedit hey

[Kawaii]

mods you posted a pic of a ninja earlier on like d1 or d2. Was that game relevent or irrelevant

. Spelling one of those words wrong

[DeltaWave]

I wonder if Betty White is a ninja.

[SlumberPartyBois]

sleepybois should claim out.

already did?

[SlumberPartyBois]

3. I highly doubt that there are two dreaming gods in this game. Either way, if I was scum, it would be stupid for me to counter-claim SPB. I wouldn't fake a counter-claim just to take out a dreaming god and die the next day as obvscum.

4. One more thing: he's claiming to have a watcher ability, you really think there are two dreaming gods with the ability to watch in this game? That could potentially bust the game wide open in a big way.

Also, I actually do have 17 abilities. I counted wrong.

3. why? we have only had two vanillas flip and everything else (including our two flipped scum) have been power roles. add into the mix that theres at least one other antitown killing faction besides the mafia weve seen so far and it is pretty obvious this is a high power game. then you have mod meta that states that reck is absolutely not above throwing in doubles of roles to fuck with the general "there can only be one of each role" mentality that this site has and i see no problem with it.

4. im actually curious about this. i have demonstrated prior knowledge that a dreaming god in this game both has 17 abilities and a watcher ability. how do both of these things indicate that im not a dreaming god to you?

[SlumberPartyBois]

SPB doesn't want to claim any additional visitors because all he knows for sure is that Ythan visited P-Dra, given that they're on the same team. If he tries to guess, he'll more than likely be wrong. SPB obviously didn't expect to be counter-claimed here. He probably thought that given his claim in the hydra QT, he'd be safe from that. Well, he underestimated my ability to ignore large walls of text and now it cost him.

do you seriously not understand how powerful it is for scum to know whether or not a doctor targeted pdra n2? do you also realize that were i to claim a theoretical doctor i would essentially be offering him up to the scum nightkill? pls think about what you are asking me to do here.

[DeltaWave]

There were no duplicate roles in Gay Mafia 1. What mod meta are you referring to?

The 17 abilities doesn't mean anything to me. In the last Gay Mafia game, reck allowed scum to pick their fake role and he would formulate flavor for them.

I doubt that there are two roles that can use watcher abilities.

P-Edit: I don't think you have a watcher ability at all.

[Katsuki]

It's interesting to note that I don't think any Reck modded games have ever had duplicated roles before...

We ran into this very same problem with two sets of masons last game.

[MattP]

It's interesting to note that I don't think any Reck modded games have ever had duplicated roles before...

We ran into this very same problem with two sets of masons last game.

SUPER STALK POINT OUT THAT RECK HAD TWO DOCS IN HIS 13P ALWAYS ON GAME THAT JUST ENDED IN MARATHON END SUPER STALK

[Katsuki]

It's interesting to note that I don't think any Reck modded games have ever had duplicated roles before...

We ran into this very same problem with two sets of masons last game.

SUPER STALK POINT OUT THAT RECK HAD TWO DOCS IN HIS 13P ALWAYS ON GAME THAT JUST ENDED IN MARATHON END SUPER STALK

marathon

[Pretentiousdra]

waiting for other hydra heads to give their 2 cents.

Also where's Volkan again.?

[Sir Elton Hercules John]

mods you posted a pic of a ninja earlier on like d1 or d2. Was that game relevent or irrelevant

. Spelling one of those words wrong

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[SlumberPartyBois]

marathon

Dreaming gods is not a utility role that serves a specific pragmatic purpose, it's not like having two dreaming gods is pragmatically impossible. The only weird thing about it is that we both had a watcher ability. But the nights we got no results could mean anything from watered down semi-vanilla roles to protective roles etc etc

[Kawaii]

Know what else is interesting, Kat? They both wound up watching their targets n2, and had mystery actions on the other nights. Seems like linked roles- not as random as the mods want them to think.... I changed my mind about delta. Looking back, he initially perceives spb as a watcher(right?) but acts as though something is wrong with that when he himself is not a static watcher. Then there were numerous posts to preface the big counterclaim of obliviousness that spb has been an outed dreaming god since day 1, cus "ho nooo only one room for dreaming god". I say them posts was faked with the hope no one chain lynches both gods. I almost let it get me. AND vig, cop, masons, friendly neighbor etc is a bit much to also have 2 gods + sk going against the scum on top of whatever other town prs. Vote Kat?

[DeltaWave]

If SPB flips town then by all means lynch me tomorrow.

Do you think I would really fake a counter-claim with two mafia already down? Come on. That doesn't even work for wifom purposes because there's no advantage whatsoever in doing this. There's probably 3-4 mafia, so that would mean I'd be either throwing the game or intentionally committing suicide and leaving one buddy out to dry. All to take out a dreaming god? No way.

[Zoidberg]

Do you think I would really fake a counter-claim with two mafia already down?

Someone already made that argument but by all means regurgitate it.

[dramonic]

Pretty dang sure I'm voting SPB unless the VC restarted again =/

[Kawaii]

vote delta

. Masons should instead be lovers in that last post of mine.... SO, my spin on things is that on december 18, you review the hydra qt then disappear for two days after spotting spb's claim. It was even mentioned itt, but you came back to say you were behind on things, didnt know why to vote thunderhog, cetra ectra, because no scum wants to "counterclaim" day 1 with 20+ players and have that much attention. THEN today I say you put on a show by questioning the guys you mistook for watcher when really you were trying to bait out a 2nd claim from spb since ofc you can't ignore him outing your shared role twice. And for what? Cus you got no other claim to fall back on. It was now or never. I have to go back and see when you changed reads on ythan but i remember you had him as town, yet suddenly you wanted to feed him a bullet...That's Kise's take on things. feel free to chime in

[Kawaii]

Know what else is interesting, Kat? They both wound up watching their targets n2, and had mystery actions on the other nights. Seems like linked roles- not as random as the mods want them to think.... I changed my mind about delta. Looking back, he initially perceives spb as a watcher(right?) but acts as though something is wrong with that when he himself is not a static watcher. Then there were numerous posts to preface the big counterclaim of obliviousness that spb has been an outed dreaming god since day 1, cus "ho nooo only one room for dreaming god". I say them posts was faked with the hope no one chain lynches both gods. I almost let it get me. AND vig, cop, masons, friendly neighbor etc is a bit much to also have 2 gods + sk going against the scum on top of whatever other town prs. Vote Kat?

So...

DW claim watch on Wyrd, with no one visiting.
SPB claim watch on Pdra, with unnamed persons visiting.


Should be obvious, but if anyone visited Wyrd N2, they should claim asap.

The rest of my thoughts to this are in [REDACTED].

This also reminds me though

@Mods: Theoretically, any abilities dreaming gods have would have been determined PRIOR to the game, not during the game, correct? (as in, was determined in advance that ability 1 does A, and ability 2 does B)

[TheButtonmen]

If SPB flips town then by all means lynch me tomorrow.

Do you think I would really fake a counter-claim with two mafia already down? Come on. That doesn't even work for wifom purposes because there's no advantage whatsoever in doing this. There's probably 3-4 mafia, so that would mean I'd be either throwing the game or intentionally committing suicide and leaving one buddy out to dry. All to take out a dreaming god? No way.

I'm willing to go along with this for now because;

Also blahblahblah roles blahblah speculation, I'd be inclined to believe that there is at least one if not more extremely powerful non town roles.

[Kawaii]

I'd like TBM to claim any infos he has regarding the action on him last night before we go to any roping.

P-edit: HAI, go along with what exactly?

[Pretentiousdra]

vote delta

. Masons should instead be lovers in that last post of mine.... SO, my spin on things is that on december 18, you review the hydra qt then disappear for two days after spotting spb's claim. It was even mentioned itt, but you came back to say you were behind on things, didnt know why to vote thunderhog, cetra ectra, because no scum wants to "counterclaim" day 1 with 20+ players and have that much attention. THEN today I say you put on a show by questioning the guys you mistook for watcher when really you were trying to bait out a 2nd claim from spb since ofc you can't ignore him outing your shared role twice. And for what? Cus you got no other claim to fall back on. It was now or never. I have to go back and see when you changed reads on ythan but i remember you had him as town, yet suddenly you wanted to feed him a bullet...That's Kise's take on things. feel free to chime in

Do you believe he is a scum dreaming god?

if you don't I could rip your logic here to itty-bity shreds.

[Pretentiousdra]

If SPB flips town then by all means lynch me tomorrow.

Do you think I would really fake a counter-claim with two mafia already down? Come on. That doesn't even work for wifom purposes because there's no advantage whatsoever in doing this. There's probably 3-4 mafia, so that would mean I'd be either throwing the game or intentionally committing suicide and leaving one buddy out to dry. All to take out a dreaming god? No way.

I'm willing to go along with this for now because;

Also blahblahblah roles blahblah speculation, I'd be inclined to believe that there is at least one if not more extremely powerful non town roles.

lol what are you on?

[Pretentiousdra]

I'm going to sleep, please the both of you think on your sins.