Gay Mafia II: RIDE THE LIGHTNING (Game Over)

[Kawaii]

That's a shitload of roles that give info on alignments.

Are you sad because that's unfair to your scumteam? You want to off a few information roles?

But oh, SPB vs. DW, now, THAT can wait.

Trollie has softclaimed a selfish confirmable role. That's not as threatening as the others. Don't be foolish.

Spd vs DW can wait to see if they have mirrored abilities each night / to see if it really dont matter what the name of their songs/movies chosen each night are. Reck's reply to our question about how dreaming gods work leaves room for the mods to have a certain order of predetermined

abilities

that both spb and dw will do no matter what.

[Zoidberg]

I'm using probabilities to assign a value

Yes, I know.

But the probabilities are not actual probabilities.

This is the point that I am making and the point that you are dodging.

Your value is meaningless if the numbers you construct it from are also meaningless.

[DrippingGoofball]

Spd vs DW can wait to see if they have mirrored abilities each night

They have conflicting results.

Are you smoking crack?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm using probabilities to assign a value

Yes, I know.

But the probabilities are not actual probabilities.

This is the point that I am making and the point that you are dodging.

Your value is meaningless if the numbers you construct it from are also meaningless.

Look. It works.

It's a number based on the number of expected scum on the wagon and the number of unflipped players.

You're uncommonly defensive about this, aren't you.

[Zoidberg]

Because I'm certain that SPB is scum, he ranks very high on the scale, too.

And Zoraster who's 4th on your silly scale is basically confirmed town.

Wow Ms Curie, what an amazing scientific system you've constructed there

[TheTrollie]

@dgb...and an answer to my question?

were u thanking me for my speculation of wyrd?

YES

I'm amazed that he's not being looked at more closely, he's basically done nothing at all the entire game but call me scum. He's totally not scumhunting. He's trying to avoid being lynched but not pissing anyone off but one person, and trying to avoid being NK'd.

Given how regularly and early I get myself NK'd, going after me during the day is really dumb. Just wait for a night without a power role to kill, and normally I shouldn't make it for very long.

I should never be let into end game, though. DGB in endgame has to be scum (unless I'm replacing at LyLo but that might never have happened).

would u switch your vote over there if, say, i did...this:

VOTE: wyrd

i was mostly asking because u havent been voting wyrd yet you were so pleased that I was expressing a scum read on them

[DrippingGoofball]

I wasn't thinking you were scum, Zoidberg, but the way you're getting all hot over the collar over this even after I tell you that I find SPB vastly more guilty than you is giving me pause.

[Kawaii]

DG...

N1, DW puts a lynchproof on Ythan. N2 he watched Wyrd. N3 he empowered TBM.

N1 spb did something unknown to iece. N2 he watched pdra. N3 something unknown to Wyrd.

Both had WATCHES night 2. Could be coincidence or mirrored roles as I said.

[Zoidberg]

Look. It works.

Wagon me and I can demonstrate to you just how poorly it works.

[DrippingGoofball]

Because I'm certain that SPB is scum, he ranks very high on the scale, too.

And Zoraster who's 4th on your silly scale is basically confirmed town.

Wow Ms Curie, what an amazing scientific system you've constructed there

WOW you sure are spending a lot of effort trying to discredit this!

I think zoraster is town, too.

It's a scale, you turkey. Most players on it are going to flip town.

Combine it with behavioral tells.

YOU ARE SOUNDING LIKE SCUM CAUGHT FOR THE WRONG REASONS

BIG TIME

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: wyrd

i was mostly asking because u havent been voting wyrd yet you were so pleased that I was expressing a scum read on them

VOTE: Wyrd

It's a heartbreak to let SPB go, though, 'cuz it's a sure bet scumbag.

[DrippingGoofball]

Wyrd of SPB.

Those are my choices today.

I'll swing either.

[TheButtonmen]

12 hour V/LA, I haven't slept in about 36 hours.

[TheTrollie]

I'm using probabilities to assign a value

Yes, I know.

But the probabilities are not actual probabilities.

This is the point that I am making and the point that you are dodging.

Your value is meaningless if the numbers you construct it from are also meaningless.

Look. It works.

It's a number based on the number of expected scum on the wagon and the number of unflipped players.

You're uncommonly defensive about this, aren't you.

for the record, i also think probabilities stuff in mafia are bullshit. they take subjective ratings and then use descriptive measures to deduce some objectively determinant ground. Bull. Shit. The numbers you come up with are no more informative than you just listing reads. Don't be fooled by the presence of numbers and "math"

[Pretentiousdra]

Question.

If Delta SPB shared the same abilities every night, how is it that TBM knows he was empowered twice while Wryd doesn't? (if it's due to role related reasons then I could give 2 shits since their prospective roles haven't done jack to help anyone thus far)

Secondly DBG. We got a mafia result on OD. Scum have a redirector (only thing that makes sense), and delta crumbed fucking hard D2 and ythan knew he recieved something (speculation since scum could have a governor but) so maybe delta got redirected considering Wryd is saying also that they recieved a damn Golden girls video.

You people. And your feeble non-Princetonian brains.

[vollkan]

Okay, trying to catch up as much as I can while computer is not stuffing up (basically, old one died, had to buy a new one, and new one has a faulty video card which causes regular freezing etc)

We have guilty on OD. yes him. the guy who flipped town.

Seems likely you were redirected, then. Did you confirm it wasn't mod error?

How is that redirection, though?

Redirection would be P-dra receives a result telling him the alignment of somebody else - not a false result.

Neither Dreaming God claim seems manifestly implausible, and the two roles (John Waters and Elton John) both make sense to be included. That said, it seems to be a very powerful combination. Since fake-counter-claiming doesn't make sense for scum, the only possibilities I can think of are that they are both telling the truth, albeit one of them could be scum.

At bottom of page 110, and it's taken me almost 10 minutes to get through the page due to crashing...I'll try again later

[TheTrollie]

Neither Dreaming God claim seems manifestly implausible, and the two roles (John Waters and Elton John) both make sense to be included. That said, it seems to be a very powerful combination. Since fake-counter-claiming doesn't make sense for scum, the

only possibilities

I can think of are that they are both telling the truth,

albeit one of them could be scum.

baaaaaaaaaad post.

baaaaaad. like a sheep.

[SlumberPartyBois]

tbh it's patently obvious to me what Trollie is at this point.

However now is the time for SPB to declare first whether they saw anyone else visit us N2. No need to say who that person is if applicable.

i will answer this only if you are positive you want me to answer it.

[Wyrd]

Dat hop

So 15 posts about analysis and numbers, but DGB's only SCUMREADS and VOTES are:

This supposed "HURRDURRGODCOUNTERCLAIM" bullshit thats essentially a free read "they both claimed Dgod I can go after one np"

and

Me

which has been BASICALLY OMGUS read the entire game

Trollie

open your fucking eyes

Its better to sheep a competent sheperd then be alone in the dark with your badge of independence tripping over yourself

[Pretentiousdra]

you are not really that quick witted for an attorney are you volkan.

Our results come in a form wherein we wouldn't be able to tell you who we really targeted. Mafia know we are a cop. They could redirect to one of themselves in an attempt to frame another person. In turn casting doubt upon our claim.

Positive SPB.

[Pretentiousdra]

We have to know if you are legit SPB.

[Pretentiousdra]

remember not who, but if.

[SlumberPartyBois]

Question.

If Delta SPB shared the same abilities every night, how is it that TBM knows he was empowered twice while Wryd doesn't? (if it's due to role related reasons then I could give 2 shits since their prospective roles haven't done jack to help anyone thus far)

Secondly DBG. We got a mafia result on OD. Scum have a redirector (only thing that makes sense), and delta crumbed fucking hard D2 and ythan knew he recieved something (speculation since scum could have a governor but) so maybe delta got redirected considering Wryd is saying also that they recieved a damn Golden girls video.

You people. And your feeble non-Princetonian brains.

i asked reck if my choice from the list actually affects anything and his answer was yes. imho i think its a coincidence that we both rolled watcher the same night.

THIS IS IMPORTANT if we do end up lynching me today DO NOT automatically lynch dw when i flip town like dgb is likely to push for.

[SlumberPartyBois]

remember not who, but if.

the if is important. if i answer no then it confirms to scum that there was no doctor targeting you. if i answer yes then they know that there is a possibility that there was.

[Wyrd]

Pdra even if he did see someone else target you N2 weren't you RBd that night? The only person besides Ythan to target you if they targeted you would be a doctor