Newbie 1310: A WILD CHARIZARD APPEARED! - GAME OVER

[Om]

If you consider 24 old, sure -.-
pEdit:
He was IC of our game and hardest to read, I was actually convinced he was scum and pushing for him due to him not being dead and thinking he was scum due to that very reason.

[mykonian]

If you consider 24 old, sure -.-
pEdit:
He was IC of our game and hardest to read, I was actually convinced he was scum and pushing for him due to him not being dead and thinking he was scum due to that very reason.

and why exactly would scum consider him then?

I still don't get how you got so sure Xeg was their target. He sure didn't make sense to me to kill. It's a really silly kill, tbh.

[mykonian]

and 24 is ancient!

[Om]

i might be more comfortable with an om lynch right now than i am a dyr...ill be back in a bit but if someone (mykonian) has time u should take a look at interactions and the wagons yesterday

I would like to get an answer to my question from other day again from you as now we know Em is town Doc.
Were you trying to keep CF slot unprotected and get Doc actions wasted on you when you said ''Doc's be on me''? I asked you this before but you gave dodgy answer by saying Nacho called me town and so yeah...but no that doesn't cut it.

Your case on Nacho was actually repetition of whatever me and other people said in clusters as well. Who else you had scum read on D2 and why?

[Om]

If you consider 24 old, sure -.-
pEdit:
He was IC of our game and hardest to read, I was actually convinced he was scum and pushing for him due to him not being dead and thinking he was scum due to that very reason.

and why exactly would scum consider him then?

I still don't get how you got so sure Xeg was their target. He sure didn't make sense to me to kill. It's a really silly kill, tbh.

I was specific about Xeg to Em since she was the one who actually said he will be target, that only added to my initial hypothesis of Nacho being scum if he wasn't the one targeted and Xeg was the target.
Here is her post;

(Not dead)

@Om- Everyone hated him that day for the whole page 1 RC and his vote on smash/vote reveal. I'm not quite sure how to word it...I just think that if the mafia kill was blocked there's a good chance a power rule either new or took a chance that Xeg was town. The mafia may also have seen his RC as "Vanilla Townie" as (not just a bad move like the rest of the town) but suspicious. They may have suspected him for a doctor or jailer or whatever trying to be safe as a normal and figure they have nothing to lose if he really was vanilla townie. A rather farfetched theory, but still...

Also, Nacho would be the top pick for NK if I was scum, so I thought it was same for others and I kept that as my base while doing NK analysis. I don't know who else it would be if it's not Nacho or Xeg, who were you thinking as likely NK target? o-o

[mykonian]

vote om

[Om]

Looks like you've made up your mind. :/

Good luck guys, let's hope scum derp tonight and fail to kill someone. It was good learning game for me :3

Vote OM

[mykonian]

I sure hope they do.

[TheTrollie]

woah woah woah woah woah...

ok, so basically I was preparing a HUGE post after going through an Om/Dyr Co-ISO looking at their interactions.

Then somehow when i got to hitting "reply" the post box contained NONE of the posts i marked to quote...so idk what i did wrong.

Mykonian, i would look at it urself, its pretty easy to see that there is a long period where they completely avoid eachother, but there is a good amount of sheeping by dyr (i think, it was a bit unclear but it looked like dyr was sheeping om pretty hard). then the rest of their interactions are really fucking forced.

I say Dyr & OM scum team makes sense...and then I also just saw the Om self vote.

Om

little hint. If you are town, FUCKING UNVOTE URSELF RIGHT NOW. the only person who has made up his mind is mykonian. SECOND: now we are 100% in MYLO so if u are town, lynching you means we lose. There is really nothing that can be done to stop that.

[Om]

My town read has made up his mind voting me, so obv. scum will do so to, I'll be stuck at L-1 for rest of the day and I see no point in sagging the game more and wasting time tbh

I'll let you have more time if you need to go trough my ISO more though, but I'll be voting myself if needed and nothing has changed.

Unvote

[TraceyLyn11]

VOTE COUNT 3.2

[L-4] Dyrynify:

[L-4] mykonian:

[L-4] em+p_dear:

[L-3] Om: mykonian

[L-4] TheTrollie:

[L-4] Smashbard:

Not Voting:

5 (Dyrynify, em+p_dear, Om, TheTrollie, Smashbard)

• With six alive, it takes four to lynch.
  
• Day Three's deadline: February 06, 2013 CST or in (expired on 2013-02-06 20:00:00).
  
• V/LA: No one.

[TheTrollie]

Mykonian, what do u make of Nacho's read on Om?

[mykonian]

woah woah woah woah woah...

ok, so basically I was preparing a HUGE post after going through an Om/Dyr Co-ISO looking at their interactions.

Then somehow when i got to hitting "reply" the post box contained NONE of the posts i marked to quote...so idk what i did wrong.

Mykonian, i would look at it urself, its pretty easy to see that there is a long period where they completely avoid eachother, but there is a good amount of sheeping by dyr (i think, it was a bit unclear but it looked like dyr was sheeping om pretty hard). then the rest of their interactions are really fucking forced.

I say Dyr & OM scum team makes sense...and then I also just saw the Om self vote.

Om

little hint. If you are town, FUCKING UNVOTE URSELF RIGHT NOW. the only person who has made up his mind is mykonian. SECOND: now we are 100% in MYLO so if u are town, lynching you means we lose. There is really nothing that can be done to stop that.

He knows. He isn't town.

[TheTrollie]

^duh^ lol

[Smashbard]

Nobody at all took away why smash would absolutely not vote dyr last time. And suddenly he sheeps nacho. The guy he was just voting. stinks stinks stinks of bus, esspecially as none of the others on the wagon are scum (emp, me and nacho).

You forgot to mention the part where Nacho educated me on reasons why Dyrnify would still Hammer on Day 1 as scum rather than wait for me to hammer. Which was the ONLY thing preventing me from voting Dyrnify Day 2 AT ALL. I stated that multiple times.

After that, I pretty much stayed on the Dyrnify wagon the rest of the day, despite the fact that everyone thinks I'm scum and would never lynch him so long as I'm on the wagon. Because I've been suspicious that he was scum ever since his hammer on Day 1.

Which is really fucking stupid by the way. If I were scum, I could just hop on the wagon of whoever my scumbuddy was and you guys would avoid that lynch like the plague because you're so convinced that I'm scum. Force a Mislynch through because you guys would refuse to vote for whoever I vote for, and then scum would win the game flawlessly.

Yeah yeah WIFOM, whatever. If you're looking for a perfect lynch where all town vote for one scum with no bussing involved, you're going to need my vote. Period.

[Smashbard]

You guys can hem and haw and flip flop as to whether or not you think I'm scum with Dyrnify, Dyrnify is scum with Om, Dyrnify is scum with TheTrollie, I'm scum with Om, I'm scum with TheTrollie, Om is scum with TheTrollie, whatever you like. Dyrnify is scum. So scummy he refuses to even post in this game anymore because he's caught so bad. You can either lynch scum with me or run away from the wagon like lemmings and hope that Dyrnify busses whoever it is you think is scummier than him.

Vote: Dyrnify

[TheTrollie]

oh no...

is it smash/om?????

[TheTrollie]

VOTE COUNT 1.3

[L-4] Dyrynify:

Xegarus

[L-3]

Xegarus

: Dyrynify,

em+p_dear

[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:

[L-1]

TheDoctor

: Om,

CF Riot

,

Nachomamma8

, Smashbard

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-5] Smashbard:
[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:

VOTE COUNT 1.4

[L-5] Dyrynify:
[L-4]

Xegarus

: Dyrynify
[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:

[L-2]

TheDoctor

: Om,

Nachomamma8

, Smashbard

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-3] Smashbard:

CF Riot

,

Xegarus

[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:

VOTE COUNT 1.5

[L-5] Dyrynify:

[L-1]

Xegarus

: Dyrynify,

kitiekatt

, Smashbard,

TheDoctor

[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:
[L-3]

TheDoctor

: Om,

Nachomamma8

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-3] Smashbard:

CF Riot

,

Xegarus

[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:

VOTE COUNT 1.6

[L-5] Dyrynify:

[L-2]

Xegarus

: Dyrynify,

kitiekatt

,

TheDoctor

[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:
[L-3]

TheDoctor

: Om,

Nachomamma8

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-3] Smashbard:

CF Riot

,

Xegarus

[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:

VOTE COUNT 1.7

[L-5] Dyrynify:

[L-2]

Xegarus

: Dyrynify,

kitiekatt

,

TheDoctor

[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:

[L-1]

TheDoctor

: Om,

Nachomamma8

,

CF Riot

,

Xegarus

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-5] Smashbard:
[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:

VOTE COUNT 1.8

[L-5] Dyrynify:
[L-3]

Xegarus

: Dyrynify,

kitiekatt

[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:

[L-1]

TheDoctor

: Om,

Nachomamma8

,

CF Riot

,

Xegarus

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-5] Smashbard:
[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:


VOTE COUNT 1.9; FINAL VOTE COUNT OF DAY ONE

[L-5] Dyrynify:
[L-4]

Xegarus

:

kitiekatt

[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:

[LYNCH]

TheDoctor

: Om,

Nachomamma8

,

CF Riot

,

Xegarus

, Dyrynify

[L-5]

kitiekatt

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-5] Smashbard:
[L-5]

Nachomamma8

:

VOTE COUNT 2.3

[L-4] Dyrynify:

mykonian

[L-5]

Xegarus

mykonian

:
[L-4]

em+p_dear

:

Nachomamma8

[L-5] Om:
[L-5]

kitiekatt

SleepyKrew

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-5] Smashbard:
[L-4]

Nachomamma8

: Om

VOTE COUNT 2.5

[L-4] Dyrynify:

em+p_dear

[L-5]

mykonian

:

[L-2]

em+p_dear

:

Nachomamma8

, Smashbard, Dyrynify

[L-5] Om:
[L-5]

SleepyKrew

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-4] Smashbard:

mykonian

[L-3]

Nachomamma8

: Om,

CF Riot

VOTE COUNT 2.6

[L-2] Dyrynify:

em+p_dear

,

Nachomamma8

, Smashbard

[L-5]

mykonian

:
[L-4]

em+p_dear

: Dyrynify
[L-5] Om:
[L-5]

SleepyKrew

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-4] Smashbard:

mykonian

[L-3]

Nachomamma8

: Om,

CF Riot

VOTE COUNT 2.8

[L-2] Dyrynify:

em+p_dear

,

Nachomamma8

, Smashbard

[L-5]

mykonian

:
[L-4]

em+p_dear

: Dyrynify
[L-5] Om:
[L-5]

SleepyKrew

TheTrollie

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-3] Smashbard:

mykonian

,

CF Riot

[L-3]

Nachomamma8

: Om,

TheTrollie

VOTE COUNT 2.9; FINAL VOTE COUNT OF DAY TWO

[L-3] Dyrynify:

Nachomamma8

, Smashbard
[L-5]

mykonian

:
[L-5]

em+p_dear

:
[L-5] Om:
[L-5]

TheTrollie

:
[L-5]

CF Riot

:
[L-4] Smashbard:

mykonian

[LYNCH]

Nachomamma8

: Om,

em+p_dear

,

CF Riot

,

TheTrollie

, Dyrynify

[TheTrollie]

You guys can hem and haw and flip flop as to whether or not you think I'm scum with Dyrnify, Dyrnify is scum with Om, Dyrnify is scum with TheTrollie, I'm scum with Om, I'm scum with TheTrollie, Om is scum with TheTrollie, whatever you like. Dyrnify is scum. So scummy he refuses to even post in this game anymore because he's caught so bad. You can either lynch scum with me or run away from the wagon like lemmings and hope that Dyrnify busses whoever it is you think is scummier than him.

Vote: Dyrnify

what do you find to be unconvincing in Myko & My arguments for Scum-Om?

[em+p_dear]

Dyrnify is scum. So scummy he refuses to even post in this game anymore because he's caught so bad. You can either lynch scum with me or run away from the wagon like lemmings and hope that Dyrnify busses whoever it is you think is scummier than him.

So hard to disagree with this. Maybe it's just itchy fingers, but if we're all in agreement that Dyr is scum, why are we debating? Is there anyone here who thinks that Dyr is town besides himself?

@Smash

-who do you think is scumbuddies with Dyr?

@Trollie

-so Smash/Om...how sure is this for you-definite top 2 scum or a possibility? Because it seems like everyone (myself included) sees these three as suspicious, though to different degrees.

[Smashbard]

You guys can hem and haw and flip flop as to whether or not you think I'm scum with Dyrnify, Dyrnify is scum with Om, Dyrnify is scum with TheTrollie, I'm scum with Om, I'm scum with TheTrollie, Om is scum with TheTrollie, whatever you like. Dyrnify is scum. So scummy he refuses to even post in this game anymore because he's caught so bad. You can either lynch scum with me or run away from the wagon like lemmings and hope that Dyrnify busses whoever it is you think is scummier than him.

Vote: Dyrnify

what do you find to be unconvincing in Myko & My arguments for Scum-Om?

Did I say you were unconvincing? I've mentioned that Om's recent change in behavior in trying to muddle the waters at the last minute when beforehand he had almost everyone as town reads is suspicious. So yes, he could be scum.

So just to make my analysis as clear as possible.

Dyrnify is scum. 100%. I'm not allowing anyone to deter me from my biggest scumread anymore.

TheTrollie has a good chance at being scumpartners with Dyrnify due to the fact that he has been defending Dyrnify from suspicion since the second he replaced in. Even today, he only voted for Dyrnify after WARNING everybody else not to vote for him "To avoid a quickhammer". And only after that has now went back to trying to push any wagon, any wagon at all that doesn't have to be Dyrnify. Which is why he keeps flip flopping between saying I'm Dyrnify's scumpartner or Om is Dyrnify's scumpartner. Or even now saying that Om and I are scumpartners. All just to avoid having to lynch Dyrnify. The more he defends Dyrnify from being todays lynch, the scummier he looks.

Om has a good chance at being scumpartners with Dyrnify due to the fact that he has stated that Dyrnify was one of his strongest town reads, and refused to get off the Nacho wagon all day yesterday. And now that it's do or die time, Om has continually skated the issue of a Dyrnify wagon, while not really offering up his own opinion as to who should be lynched, rather, he has tried to commit suicide just to avoid lynching Dyrnify.

Both are extremely intent on making sure that Dyrnify stays alive, for whatever God awful reason. I don't know what it is, because neither of them are stating that Dyrnify is a town read. So I can buy either one of them as being Dyrnify's scumpartner.

[mykonian]

Dyrnify is scum. So scummy he refuses to even post in this game anymore because he's caught so bad. You can either lynch scum with me or run away from the wagon like lemmings and hope that Dyrnify busses whoever it is you think is scummier than him.

So hard to disagree with this. Maybe it's just itchy fingers, but if we're all in agreement that Dyr is scum, why are we debating? Is there anyone here who thinks that Dyr is town besides himself?

@Smash

-who do you think is scumbuddies with Dyr?

@Trollie

-so Smash/Om...how sure is this for you-definite top 2 scum or a possibility? Because it seems like everyone (myself included) sees these three as suspicious, though to different degrees.

*Raises hand slowly*

Don't know yet.

[mykonian]

actually, I think I connected stuff for me. Trollie is right.

Apart from om, dyr doesn't have a possible scumpartner anymore.

Emp, I feel much better about lynching Om here.

[mykonian]

emp, I'm not going to claim I'm the best town ever, but I think it's a good idea to lynch Om here first.

[em+p_dear]

Hmm. That so...

Om

, what's your take on this? You said you refused to vote before until hearing from us day 3. Well we're all here, so who are biggest candidates for your vote now?