The Wire, Season 1 - Final Credits!

[Cerulean]

*doenst feel the Ned to actually prove role*

Unless you don't actually think he's a nighborizer, which would be a pretty stupid thing to claim if you weren't one, I don't see what this has to do with anything.

It doesn't matter, this is mafia and when someone is a top scum read of mine and basically is saved from a lynch by his claim, and it's provable to an extent, he's going to verify it the next day.

Lots of things are stupid to claim if you aren't one, it sure as hell doesn't stop people from claiming them.

[Cerulean]

Your role is useless to the town.
It is a smokscreen.

You are trying to use it to make you valuable, but it doesn't.
I don't even care who you meighborized... because it doesn't help us catch scum.

There are values to having neighborhoods and for it's members to be undisclosed.

I neighborized Deasveil as he can confirm.

Okay good, now why did you choose deasvail? You haven't given any reads except the town reads when you replaced in, and the tgah scum read. Who are your two top scum reads?

[Cerulean]

I want to throw up.

I just read through your iOS and I want to throw up too.

[The Baltimore Sun]

Day 2, Votecount 2

ChannelDeliBird (1) - Plessiezarus
ActionDan (2) - camn, Cerulean

Not voting (13) :

Benmage, sottyrulez, JasonT1981, Ser Arthur Dayne, Safetydance, Zdenek, The Mini-Librarian, Deasvail, BT, ActionDan, Nostredeus, ChannelDeliBird, Kise

• With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
  
• Deadline is on 22nd of February at 00:30am GMT
  
• Countdown to deadlien: (expired on 2013-02-21 20:30:28)
  
• Benmage is V/la

[camn]

There are values to having neighborhoods and for it's members to be undisclosed.

Name them. The values.

[ActionDan]

I want to throw up.

I just read through your iOS and I want to throw up too.

why? like how can you even say something like that.

atm I don't have scum-reads, I felt only strongly that TGAH was scum yesterday and thought most everyone else was much townier in comparision, although I was thinking Camn was scummy because of her Mcstab vote (Absta flipping scum points to town Camn however). Today I'll go over Shadoweh's posts and see who she posted about and then look into their posts.

pedit: the biggest value is privately claiming role info. If you neighborize an information role they can claim in the neighborhood without revealing. Then the neighborizer claims for them.

[Cerulean]

Dan, why did you neighborize DV? Seems weird given that you had/have no stance on him.

[DeasVail]

So Dan doesn't want to know what my role is. What's up with that?

[ActionDan]

he was forgettable and I thought he'd talk more in the QT.

pedit: You realize that if I neighborize another person they gain access to the QT?

[DeasVail]

Fair enough.

[ActionDan]

Dan, why did you neighborize DV? Seems weird given that you had/have no stance on him.

btw, why do you think neighborizing people you have no stance on is weird? There's a few things you can do. Neighborize a scumread to basically get them to talk and solidify the read. Neighborize someone you don't have a good read on to get a better read. Neighborize 2 strong townreads to scumhunt more effectively and get them to cross claim privately.

[camn]

[redacted]
But.. tell me more, Dan. What other advantages may there be?
How will they 'scumhunt more effectively' in private?

[ActionDan]

[redacted]
But.. tell me more, Dan. What other advantages may there be?
How will they 'scumhunt more effectively' in private?

there isn't much more than that.

I find myself scumhunting better in hydra's where I have somebody to bounce ideas off of.

[Cerulean]

[redacted]
But.. tell me more, Dan. What other advantages may there be?
How will they 'scumhunt more effectively' in private?

there isn't much more than that.

I find myself scumhunting better in hydra's where I have somebody to bounce ideas off of.

If this was your natural inclination...to have someone to bounce ideas off of then wouldn't you neighborize someone you had a strong town read on and trusted? Say shadoweh? Bt? Benmage? Not someone you'd stated no read on and thought was forgettable and hoped would talk more.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

Neighborize someone you don't have a good read on to get a better read.

...Why not just question them on thread?

[ActionDan]

I didn't go that way because I wanted to confirm my role and I didn't want to take the chance of somebody dying on me. If I had gone that way I'd have choosen Shadoweh since we talk on IRC all the time.

pedit: I wasn't focused on DV at time and didn't really think of anything to ask them.

[Cerulean]

I didn't go that way because I wanted to confirm my role and I didn't want to take the chance of somebody dying on me. If I had gone that way I'd have choosen Shadoweh since we talk on IRC all the time.

pedit: I wasn't focused on DV at time and didn't really think of anything to ask them.

If you wanted to confirm your role why did you start out the day saying you essentially weren't going to confirm your role.

Why would you think shadoweh might die? She was pretty much a non entity in this game so far and was one of the last people I expected to die. (well maybe not last but she was pretty far down the list)

[camn]

his story if effing swiss cheese.

Cuz, Like, when I wanna scumhunt better.. I bounce my ideas off someone who I think might be scum, right?
But MAYBE they are town, so I get them to claim, and maybe accidentally tell the scum their role.

Its like scumdaytalk+rolefishing.

Dan, admit it. You are scum, yes?

Tell me your ideal three person neighborhood.

[ActionDan]

I never said that I wasn't going to confirm it. I said I didn't feel the need to reveal who it was I neighborized. It was perferable to keep it disclosed unless people were twats about it (which is exactly what happened)

I was hoping you'd die frankly.

Because she was town? And had good votes and good posts. I wasn't going to take the risk.

[Cerulean]

I never said that I wasn't going to confirm it. I said I didn't feel the need to reveal who it was I neighborized. It was perferable to keep it disclosed unless people were twats about it (which is exactly what happened)

I was hoping you'd die frankly.

Because she was town? And had good votes and good posts. I wasn't going to take the risk.

Why were you hoping I would die?

[ActionDan]

his story if effing swiss cheese.

Cuz, Like, when I wanna scumhunt better.. I bounce my ideas off someone who I think might be scum, right?
But MAYBE they are town, so I get them to claim, and maybe accidentally tell the scum their role.

I choose DV to get a read on him. What is hard to understand.

pedit: Because I don't have enough of a strong town read on you and I don't really think your reads are that good.

[ActionDan]

I don't even know why I bother with you dumbfucks. Shadoweh is a hell of a lot better than the both of you and it's laughable you think otherwise. Camn takes the credit for the absta scum-read. Cerulean gives her no credit and you both vote me. Just fucking lol.

@Mod: Replace out

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

This is MOS-scum all over from ADWD lol.

[Ser Arthur Dayne]

First I try to put some effort into this game with what little time I have (there's a reason I'm only in one game right now), and immediately you come after me for not putting MORE effort into the game. And then I have to spend the rest of my time explaining to your fucking retarded brain why I'm not doing MORE to scumhunt, when YOU are the exact reason I don't have time to do MORE. So seriously, fuck off and get off your goddamn high horse.

I'm done with you and your bitch ass.

Mod: Replace me

I don't even know why I bother with you dumbfucks. Shadoweh is a hell of a lot better than the both of you and it's laughable you think otherwise. Camn takes the credit for the absta scum-read. Cerulean gives her no credit and you both vote me. Just fucking lol.

@Mod: Replace out

Mhm.

[Cerulean]

I want to throw up.

I just read through your iOS and I want to throw up too.

why? like how can you even say something like that.

Part of it is returning that response in kind. And part of it is that your posts make me feel all twitchy. Let's take our first interaction for instance. I thought your first post was scummy and you replaced into a slot I was supicious of. I give an interpretation of your first post, and rather than just answer for yourself, you decide to try to discredit my ability to read people. The "you don't understand people" line might make sense if we had experienced conflicts in games but we haven't, and we just finished playing in a game together where my reads were pretty good on the whole, so it reads as a means of deflection and discrediting, which is scummy.

Likewise, your Post 703 in which you say that You're talking to me like this because I'm leaning town otherwise you'd be coming after me reads really weird.

I read through your Ido in the game we just played together (mafia stuck) and I had a strong town read on you immediately and I'm not getting any of that sense here.

Pedit: what the literal fuck? First of all when did I ever say I was better than shadoweh, saying she was a basic nonentity in the game is not an insult. She was barely posting.

And I thought I was prone to theatrics. Damns.