Newbie 1339 - Game Over! (Scum Win)

[Remembrance]

Interesting Oscillation there Random. Your name suits you.

[RandomYoshi]

Ah. I just interpreted "I will lie about reads" as "I will not believe them", if that's understandable.

[Remembrance]

Still not getting it. Elaborate.

[GuyInFreezer]

@Rem: Explain how your reads will help us in D2 but not D1.

[Remembrance]

They help us in day 2 by providing information day 1.

[Varsoon]

Guilt by association. Be very careful Varsoon. All the newbies do it. Not even joking.

Scum certainly are associates. Regardless, I should suspect everyone and never rule a single player out of being scum.
There just wasn't much eloquence or tension behind your vote on Yoshi,
it seemed like a little prod on the shoulder, a chuckle, and a scooting away.
Like I said, you guys seem way too friendly, especially considering your antagonistic relationship with GuyInFreezer

[Remembrance]

I Like GuyinFreezer, I don't get it.

[Varsoon]

They help us in day 2 by providing information day 1.

Gotta cover your bases in case people think you're scum on day 2, am I right?
It's a good thing that scum knows everyone's roles and their reads are absolutely contrived.

[RandomYoshi]

@Rem:
Scum has to lie about their reads. Sometimes, they don't trust their reads: they don't believe them, and they only want that damn mislynch happen. I guess that depends on how confident you are as Scum (I know myself to be really shaky as Scum so that's probably affecting me when I make these posts), though.

[Remembrance]

How do scum know the players roles?

[Remembrance]

Ah crap, is this tunneling newbie #2? I need to stop looking like I don't care.

[Varsoon]

How do scum know the players roles?

Scum knows who the other scum is,
Scum also knows who all the townies are.

Sure, they don't know PRs, but that doesn't matter nearly as much as the former information.


Regardless, keeping my eye on you.

[Remembrance]

Oh, because when I played my first game, I totally thought the scum knew all the PRS in the set up.

@As you should.

[Varsoon]

Ah crap, is this tunneling newbie #2? I need to stop looking like I don't care.

You should care about everything if you're town.
Do you usually post in so many 1-line contentless sentences?

Tunneling sounds like a term scum came up with so they can write of a player who's actually pressuring someone else with investigation.
Don't feel special, I've done this to everyone else I've suspected of being scum.


Can't read sarcasm, so please don't use it. If you're being straightforward, make sure to read the pasta at the start of the game.

[kuror0]

kuror0, why are you waiting until almost-deadline to post your reads? Don't you realise that doing so is anti-Town, because then no-one can comment on them without hogging their computers?

Why would i want to post a bunch of nulls and reads i am not confident of? You think doing so would be helpful for town?

[Remembrance]

Looking like I don't care =/ caring. I've read the thread thrice you know

[Varsoon]

kuror0, why are you waiting until almost-deadline to post your reads? Don't you realise that doing so is anti-Town, because then no-one can comment on them without hogging their computers?

Why would i want to post a bunch of nulls and reads i am not confident of? You think doing so would be helpful for town?

Kur0, I think the anxiety a lot of players are feeling about your playstyle is that it seems like you're lurking really hard because you don't reply to anything and everything in the thread.
I was initially pretty skeptical of this, but I checked out your other games and you consistently lurk and post potent responses that really speak toward your thoughts and character.
Just keep us updated on how you feel about everything more frequently and a lot of that suspicion would die down.
Of course, it also makes you more likely to slip up if you're scum.

[Varsoon]

Looking like I don't care =/ caring. I've read the thread thrice you know

I've played Legend of Dragoon at least 7 times. I still find things I missed or forgot.

You just gotta be more thorough.

[GuyInFreezer]

@kuror0: reads shows your stance/alignment/thought process. Reads doesn't have to be solid. Reads are meant to be flexible.I don't see any reason to not post your reads at this point.

[Remembrance]

You need a strategy guide Varsoon? (gamefaqs.com -> for games) (Mafiascumwiki-> basics of mafia). Google it.

Anyways Varsoon is now auto-town. I might breakdown if he's actually scum. I'm serious. I'm satisfied and glad we could talk Varsoon. But please leave me alone while I do some other stuff and look at things. I'm not interested in you pressuring me right now. Pressure guy in freezer for trying too hard to get everyone's reads so he can manipulate the game while earning major town cred.

[Varsoon]

You need a strategy guide Varsoon? (gamefaqs.com -> for games) (Mafiascumwiki-> basics of mafia). Google it.

Anyways Varsoon is now auto-town. I might breakdown if he's actually scum. I'm serious. I'm satisfied and glad we could talk Varsoon. But please leave me alone while I do some other stuff and look at things. I'm not interested in you pressuring me right now. Pressure guy in freezer for trying too hard to get everyone's reads so he can manipulate the game while earning major town cred.

I'd rather learn on my own/teach myself. It's more genuine that way.
Too obvious of a play against GuyInFreezer.
He's asking people for reads because he's got no other plays to make right now.
I don't need to put pressure on him, since he's posting pretty telling stuff regardless.
I'll do what I want when I want.
See what I mean about your antagonistic relationship, though?

[GuyInFreezer]

Define "play."

[Remembrance]

Like football GuyInfreezer. You know, a tactic.

[GuyInFreezer]

Ah, ok.

Looking like I don't care =/ caring. I've read the thread thrice you know

I've played Legend of Dragoon at least 7 times. I still find things I missed or forgot.

You just gotta be more thorough.

?
I don't get the reference.

[kuror0]

Reads won't show my alignment in any way specially on D1. About my thought process and stance, don't make me re quote the same post for the 4th time. My stance on stuff is out there and my thought process to support those actions are out there too.

Kur0, I think the anxiety a lot of players are feeling about your playstyle is that it seems like you're lurking really hard because you don't reply to anything and everything in the thread.
I was initially pretty skeptical of this, but I checked out your other games and you consistently lurk and post potent responses that really speak toward your thoughts and character.
Just keep us updated on how you feel about everything more frequently and a lot of that suspicion would die down.
Of course, it also makes you more likely to slip up if you're scum.

It is my play style, I don't comment on everything just because i am expected to do so. I follow my own rules and I like it that way. I am always accused of being scummy on D1 and D2 so i am used to it. I don't play to survive, I think I've said it on some other game before but if my lynch/Kill means I catch at least 1 scum, then it will be more than worth it. This by no means is an excuse for my actions, if anyone has me as his biggest scumread then make your case and try to get a wagon on me.