Mini 1436 ~ Mafia Through a Puppy's Eyes (Game Over.)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Mod: Can you prod LLD and Messiah? Been almost a day since daystart and I'm impatient

pls. Some of us have other things to worry about.

I have an exam in 11 hours, will post after that, I think.

[Sixty]

~Mini Vote Count (11)

IceGuy (L-3)

~ Parama, Maxous

Cheery Dog (L-4)

~ IceGuy

Panzerjager (L-4)

~ implosion

implosion (L-4)

~ Cheery Dog

Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, Messiah, SpyreX, Panzerjager

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(94%)

[Cheery Dog]

Basically. I wanted to read through some stuff (mostly ISOs) on d2 but never got around to it/was never in the mood/never really had the patience and energy. Yesterday I was in the mood so I iso'd panzer. I put RL before mafia.

Two posts from day 1 aren't hard to read if you open the ISO.

and cocidering the quote you did pull up was mentioned by someone else yesterday, that as a whole seems to be put off.

[implosion]

Basically. I wanted to read through some stuff (mostly ISOs) on d2 but never got around to it/was never in the mood/never really had the patience and energy. Yesterday I was in the mood so I iso'd panzer. I put RL before mafia.

Two posts from day 1 aren't hard to read if you open the ISO.

and cocidering the quote you did pull up was mentioned by someone else yesterday, that as a whole seems to be put off.

You're supporting my point >_>.

It isn't about the amount of work that it takes to do it. It's about my mood.

[Cheery Dog]

You're too lazy/not good mooded to even look at page 1, where both his posts were, and I mentioned yesterday?

Sounds like scum not liking the need to scumhunt much to me.

If my own pay when I've been scum is any judge to your own, moods that stop your progress happen a lot more frequently if you already know the person you're getting information on's alignment.

[Messiah]

Mrow

[Sixty]

~Vote Count XVI

IceGuy (L-3)

~ Parama, Maxous

Cheery Dog (L-4)

~ IceGuy

Panzerjager (L-4)

~ implosion

implosion (L-4)

~ Cheery Dog

Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, Messiah, SpyreX, Panzerjager

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(85%)

[implosion]

You're too lazy/not good mooded to even look at page 1, where both his posts were, and I mentioned yesterday?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I isoed more than page one. I didn't even TALK about his day one posts - i just pointed out that he hadn't done much on day one. Hint hint, if he hadn't done much on day one then

i'm going to read other things when i iso him

.

I don't remember you posting about panzer yesterday - i skim a fair amount of the game, and i lost focus near the end of the day because, you guessed it, real life.

Sounds like scum not liking the need to scumhunt much to me.

Once again. How much i scumhunt is much much much more dependent on my mood than on my alignment. If you want proof of that then meta me, focusing on games that happened concurrently.

If my own pay when I've been scum is any judge to your own, moods that stop your progress happen a lot more frequently if you already know the person you're getting information on's alignment.

...:s. I don't think you understand what i'm saying. At all. I am not talking

at all

about my mood when i'm reading a game. There's this thing called real life, and I have a thing called a personality. They interact to create things called moods, and those things determine whether or not i open mafiascum at all (although that's an oversimplification because i'll often just check the thread with no intention of posting).

[Cheery Dog]

You're too lazy/not good mooded to even look at page 1, where both his posts were, and I mentioned yesterday?

What the fuck are you talking about?

I isoed more than page one. I didn't even TALK about his day one posts - i just pointed out that he hadn't done much on day one. Hint hint, if he hadn't done much on day one then

i'm going to read other things when i iso him

.

I don't remember you posting about panzer yesterday - i skim a fair amount of the game, and i lost focus near the end of the day because, you guessed it, real life.

Sounds like scum not liking the need to scumhunt much to me.

Once again. How much i scumhunt is much much much more dependent on my mood than on my alignment. If you want proof of that then meta me, focusing on games that happened concurrently.

If my own pay when I've been scum is any judge to your own, moods that stop your progress happen a lot more frequently if you already know the person you're getting information on's alignment.

...:s. I don't think you understand what i'm saying. At all. I am not talking

at all

about my mood when i'm reading a game. There's this thing called real life, and I have a thing called a personality. They interact to create things called moods, and those things determine whether or not i open mafiascum at all (although that's an oversimplification because i'll often just check the thread with no intention of posting).

The post you quoted was from day 1, therefore you are talking about that.

and as I'm in your cocurrent game, you probably know how this may continue.

[implosion]

The post you quoted was from day 1, therefore you are talking about that.

and as I'm in your cocurrent game, you probably know how this may continue.

Yes. I quoted that post from day one

and then proceeded to talk about a bunch of other things

.
And that game is kind of ongoing

[Sixty]

Please do not talk about ongoing games.

[SpyreX]

I have a surprise visitor today so my words will wait.

[Parama]

proddodge I think

when did this game get so boring

[SpyreX]

Well, most people aren't even here a little bit.

That makes for boring

[Sixty]

~Vote Count XVII

IceGuy (L-3)

~ Parama, Maxous

Cheery Dog (L-4)

~ IceGuy

Panzerjager (L-4)

~ implosion

implosion (L-4)

~ Cheery Dog

Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta, Messiah, SpyreX, Panzerjager

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(73%)

[Maxous]

If you have no time for the game can you just drop a vote on Ice guy and lynch him please so the more active players can figure out what's going on in this game. thx

^
To anyone

[PJ.]

Out of the people wth votes I think the order of most likely to least likely to be scum is Implosion - Cheery - Ice - Me. I'm very lost cause I was so sure Sword and Cheery ewere partners. It's probably best to still lynch Cheery maybe.

[IceGuy]

If you have no time for the game can you just drop a vote on Ice guy and lynch him please so the more active players can figure out what's going on in this game. thx

^
To anyone

Looking for the easy lynch?

[Maxous]

yes

@Panzer: pretty unsure about implosion myself. I just really don't like the way his scumhunting is so directed. Completely focus on one person at a time and don't comment on other players. I was more confident in him being scum in D2 than now though, idk

[Messiah]

~Mini Vote Count (9)

sword_of_omens (L-1) ~ Maxous, Messiah, IceGuy, Parama, implosion
IceGuy (L-2) ~ sword_of_omens, kanyeknowsbest, Lady Lambdadelta, Cheery Dog
Cheery Dog (L-4) ~ SpyreX, Panzerjager,

(implosion, Parama)

implosion (L-6) ~ (Cheery Dog)

sword_of_omens (LYNCH) ~ Maxous, Messiah, IceGuy, Parama, implosion, SpyreX
IceGuy (L-2) ~ sword_of_omens, kanyeknowsbest, Lady Lambdadelta, Cheery Dog
Cheery Dog (L-5) ~

(SpyreX,)

Panzerjager

I think the best explanation for kanye's death is that IceGuy is scum. He wanted IceGuy dead the most, and of the people who were voting IceGuy obviously LLD and Cheery aren't any kind of real threat if they're town and Ice is on the scumteam. If Spyrex is the other scum then all the better.

It's also pretty telling that the IceGuy wagon remained static and the people on the weaker wagons chose to all hop to sword instead.

vote: IceGuy

It's probably best to still lynch Cheery maybe.

Why?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Why Iceguy? Kanye and I wanted to look at SypreX (which I'm going todo today. I swear to you Kanye), so would it make sense for him to do it aswell?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

OR MAYBE I CAN'T READ.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

RIGHT SO NEXT POST I MAKE WILL BE ME LOOKING THROUGH SPYREX'S ISO.

IT'LL BE DONE AS SOON AS I CAN.

NAMELY WHEN I LEARN HOW TO ACTUALLY READ WORDS.

[Sixty]

~Vote Count XVIII

IceGuy (L-2)

~ Parama, Maxous, Messiah

Cheery Dog (L-4)

~ IceGuy

Panzerjager (L-4)

~ implosion

implosion (L-4)

~ Cheery Dog

Not Voting:

Lady Lambdadelta,

(Messiah,)

SpyreX, Panzerjager

--With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

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(63%)

[SpyreX]

FINALLY

I had some time to read, and overall I'm not stoked about the fallthrough.

Town:
Parama
Maxous * Disclaimer: This is ENTIRELY a function of KKB and Parama, I dont see it but considering that + the morass well, I'm fine with it.

Town-End Morass:
LLD - More than anything else its the throwaway "are you scum?" at me after Hammer Mark I. I have a haaard time seeing scum fake that considering the events. The only major twiches the other way are the Cheery wagon-hate (which he needs to be dead spoiler) and just the malaise (but that can't be entirely faulted see EVERYONE THIS GAME). IF Cheery is scum and IceGuy is town as of this moment I'd be hard pressed to not kill with fire though.
Messiah - I need someone to walk me off the ledge. I

understand

most of it but when push comes to shove pushing the sword wagon through AND swinging at Ice today is pretty implicitly hating on the Cheery wagon. Which is real, real bad if Cheery is scum.
Implosion - There's a big question TM I have. The read is town, but I'll get to that at the bottom.

Dead Morass:
Panzer - Yep.
IceGuy - I can't see coming out to bat THAT hard for a goon early. However, following that up with tumbleweeds is death. I'm on record saying he needs to die, but every fiber of my being says town.

Aaaand

Unvote, Vote: Cheery Dog

So this starts out with the salivating vote 4 scum (which is dumb (the scum part), but I digress) but then goes into the throwaway vote right after. Then just holding on the quickwagon, to declaring a null read, to saying scum after the flip.

All in all nothing immediately damning but then KKB sets it up and I didn't knock it down and I apologize.

I don't think the flavor relates to what happened, at least I'm not going to be looking into it for other possible kill targets.
Safety makes sense as someone they may have directly killed.

Who he targeted doesn't matter in the scheme of things and attempting to guess etc just makes the rest of catching scum harder.

I can't see any hints as to who he was going to target, therefore I have nothing that well give useful information as to whether he was the intended target of the night kill or not.
Useless information and guesswork really won't get us anywhere.

This isn't just "we can't say for sure". This is absolutely 100% trying to shut down the train of thought entirely. When it can be a back pocket piece of information moving forward. Buttt thats not enough:

When I posted that I thought he was flipping scum. ("the right decision")
My previous posts I could see why people were calling him scum, but wasn't convinced the lynch needed to happen then.

That response to delaying your reasoning seems valid and genuine to me.

UNVOTE: VOTE: panzer

He might want to, or he might not have thought about it. You can call it that if you want, by I'm not fully convinced by it.
(and I'm not aware of us knowing if the redirecting happens by moving the action or the target since I think both are still called the same thing)

I'm fine with an IceGuy lynch today

regardless of whether Safety targetted him or not.
But I'm out looking for more scum rather that just one plausible attempting defence from a quicklynch of a partner.

The throwaway vote and waiting on the wagon that might actually go somewhere. (Yes, later he says Ice isn't scum (and then votes for him later) but thats not the piece I care about)

Leading to a parked vote on implosion.

----

Now, I'm pretty much putting in all my chips on Ice being town and Cheery being scum and if I'm wrong yeaaa I'm dead but we're not in a state to just plod to victory. So, I'm throwin down. Cheery's brickwall about the the redirector + parking votes and the slide today is a cake I'm willing to take a bite out of.

However, my big caveat with implosion and what may send this all into a spiral is:

In post 97, implosion wrote:
In post 95, SafetyDance wrote:
ERMAHGERD

INB4 LYNCHER

You should really stop all-capsing.

WE CAN CAPS IF WE WANT TOO
WE CAN LEAVE LOWER CASE BEHIND
COZ SCUM DON'T BLOCK AND IF THEY DON'T BLOCK
WELL, THEY'RE NO FRIENDS OF MINE.

If there's a crumb, IF, this is it. The fact that this is safetydance and the block reference in trying to decipher the rosetta stone AND the fact that this was the last post make me think this thar be the crumb. It'd make sense depending on makeup to have implosion do the kill as well - especially if its just a giant teaparty with these throwaway votes and its Cheery-Implo scum.

I wish I was a lot more sure of the direction but

Quote tags fixed. ~ty