Newbie 1356 (OVER)

[freezing-hell]

I just did a quick scan to get active. I already said this. This thread has a lot of clutter, which makes it hard to get through. You got yourself to thank for that as well.
Anyway, since he ignored the question and hasn't defended himself:

VOTE: Varsoon

[Mutleyddmc]

So varsoon is now at L-1. I wouldn't be too upset with him going. However still more suspicios of freezing-hell. Him combined with shaboo is still my biggest scum read.

If I had to order everyone in scumminess

freezing hell
Varsoon
Mist
zoggoth
RC
Pyro
DDDP
dexter
me

[freezing-hell]

Nice case, Pyro, but I'm sussing out players and applying pressure too much in too many places. I suppose you could assume that's fence sitting, but, regardless.
This is a really hard OMGUS move on your part.

I build a case on you

, you ISO me, etc, etc.

How do you feel about RC and Shaboos wagons that are -currently- happening?

So let's have a look at what kind of case you've build. Also, instead of defending yourself you just ask him about something else. Case of deflecting, hmm? Sounds similar to what you said to RC about deflecting, although I realize the situation is a bit different.

IF ANYONE ELSE VOTES MUTLEY WITHOUT A GOOD REASON, YOU WILL BE SCUM SUSPECT. THIS GOES DOUBLY IF ANYONE JUST HAMMERS HIM, ESP. IF HE FLIPS TOWN

You wrote this and then went ahead to say it was a reaction test and concluded that Pyro was scum and fell for the bait because he said it's scummy of you to post that.

Well, Paid Pyro, since I know that I am town, I know that people levying baseless arguments against me are more likely to be scum than other players. So, by saying something like I did just earlier, or making other intentional missteps, I'm inviting scum and town speculation.
It's helped me get better reads on people so far, and your reaction was pretty genuinely scummy.

Keep squirming.
While RC, who I still think is town, hasn't replied yet,

I've gotten plenty out of you.

VOTE: Paid Pyro

What did you get then? Also, your style kinda changed here. Other times you explained in full detail what your thought process was, but now you suddenly withhold. Need more time, or something?

Anyway, you're claiming you build a case on him. Well, I disagree. That's hardly a case. You don't defend, or answer to some questions. Asking us to pressure PP more. Build a case if you find him scum-worthy. I think he's town, although he did tunnel you.

[freezing-hell]

I'm not reading PP's 156

Enforcing the moderator's rules?

[RadiantCowbells]

V/LA for two days because studying

[Messiah]

Newbie 1356 - Vote Count 1.10

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Varsoon [L-1]

- Paid Pyro, RadiantCowbell, Debonair Danny DiPietro, freezing-hell
RadiantCowbells [L-3] - dexter9264, Mutleyddmc
Paid Pyro [L-4] - Varsoon

Not Voting (2):

Zoggoth, Mist7676

With nine alive it takes

five

to lynch.

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Deadline:

(expired on 2013-04-24 20:00:00)

[Varsoon]

I just did a quick scan to get active. I already said this. This thread has a lot of clutter, which makes it hard to get through. You got yourself to thank for that as well.
Anyway, since he ignored the question and hasn't defended himself:

VOTE: Varsoon

On what grounds would you like me to defend myself?

Also, sorry, which question?

[freezing-hell]

Why aren't you reading the thread? The questions are right there.

[Varsoon]

Why aren't you reading the thread? The questions are right there.

Then quote them or tell me the post number.
I'm in 5 games right now. Sorry if I'm not taking ten extra minutes to find something for you.
If it's really that much of a ball-buster, I'll ISO you and find whatever question that you asked me.
Except, you know, you asked it.
I'm also giving you a chance to ask me, directly, any other questions you have.
Make use of it.

[Mist7676]

Prod dodge. Well lets get some content.

I don't really like FH entrance. I mean, there is quote lists for a reason, or you could have grouped stuff up. Why did you have to write separate little posts for each?

And I never did the reads because I was lazy to do so... I usually get my reads done by the end of the day to get my thoughts out for the night.

[freezing-hell]

I don't really like FH entrance. I mean, there is quote lists for a reason, or you could have grouped stuff up. Why did you have to write separate little posts for each?

I wrote them as I went through the thread. Excuse me for the short posts, but it made my job a whole lot easier.

Going to bed now, will check back tomorrow.

[Mist7676]

Look at the little thing next to quotes if you don't know it yet. Click it to add it to your quote list. Once you press quote, all of the ones you clicked come up!

[Mutleyddmc]

Right as he is VLA I will move onto my scummiest target for now.

VOTE: freezing-hell

[freezing-hell]

What exactly makes you think I'm scummy, Mutley?
@Mist: Yeah I do know that but thanks. I just made the short replies because I wanted to give my first impression. If I would first collect all the quotes, my thoughts on it might change because I'd know how they reacted further down the line.

[Mutleyddmc]

Well Shaboo was very scummy towards the end. You have come in and tried to be over the top town imo. Going through the whole thread sort of making points that haven't really needed to be made as they have already been dealt with etc. Feels a bit over compensating.

[freezing-hell]

Well, as I can't speak for what Shaboo wrote, and I can't argue against a gut feeling you have about me being over the top, I guess I'll just leave it at this. Don't stop scum-hunting though.

[dexter9264]

unvote

as my current vote is doing absolutely nothing. Gonna post later when I got time.

[Mutleyddmc]

Right so as freexing hell said no need to stop scum hunting. So I looked at those on the 3 L-1 wagons. DDDP has been on me and Varsoon. Dexter has been on me and RC.

Both move up in scumminess. Dexter more so as he has been on the two 'lets lynch the unhelpful guy'

[Varsoon]

Well Shaboo was very scummy towards the end. You have come in and tried to be over the top town imo. Going through the whole thread sort of making points that haven't really needed to be made as they have already been dealt with etc. Feels a bit over compensating.

I could see this, and I find FH's posts a bit suspicious too, since he's clearly putting a lot down in a little time. While I like the questions you've been asking, I'm also skeptical of the vote on me and how you entered thread with several posts prodding and calling out certain players. I'm pretty suspicious of people on my wagon, RC's, and Muttley's, and from some PoE I've whittled it down to

Paid Pyro - Has always been on my wagon. /shrug.
Shaboos - Originally on my wagon, left it for RC's wagon, then was replaced by FH who hopped on my wagon and put me at L-1.
DDP - Was on the Muttley Wagon, then swapped to Shaboos wagon with RC, then to my wagon.

Prod dodge. Well lets get some content.

I don't really like FH entrance. I mean, there is quote lists for a reason, or you could have grouped stuff up. Why did you have to write separate little posts for each?

And I never did the reads because I was lazy to do so... I usually get my reads done by the end of the day to get my thoughts out for the night.

It's really easy for scum to be lazy. Can you give us reads now, please?

Actually, the fact that FH put me at L-1 and didn't say anything about it really strikes me hard.
It makes me seriously consider FH's status as town, since my wagon's an easy push AND since Shaboos' votes were largely opportunistic as well.

[Varsoon]

Right so as freexing hell said no need to stop scum hunting. So I looked at those on the 3 L-1 wagons. DDDP has been on me and Varsoon. Dexter has been on me and RC.

Both move up in scumminess. Dexter more so as he has been on the two 'lets lynch the unhelpful guy'

Right now I'm pretty split between Dexter, DDDP, and FH.

FH seems pretty town in some posts, but pretty scum in others. Then, you also have to consider how Shaboos played.

Either way, I don't like DDDP's lurking, either.

[Varsoon]

Also, I'm at L-1, so if anyone wants to ask me questions regarding my alignment, or to discern my alignment, please do so before unvoting me or hammering.

[Mutleyddmc]

While I am suspicious of you varsoon, as I stated earlier for me you are not a day 1 lynch. I also agree with those 3 you are split on. I am sure there is 1 scum in there. Therefore we stand a better chance lynching one of those 3. I find it hard with their voting that none of them are scum.

Preference -- Freezing Hell

DDDP
Dexter

[Varsoon]

While I am suspicious of you varsoon, as I stated earlier for me you are not a day 1 lynch. I also agree with those 3 you are split on. I am sure there is 1 scum in there. Therefore we stand a better chance lynching one of those 3. I find it hard with their voting that none of them are scum.

Preference -- Freezing Hell

DDDP
Dexter

So, you'd rather vote for FH than DDDP and Dexter?

Honestly, FH and DDDP are top of my list.
In fact, I don't know why I didn't do this in the post I made earlier when I made a case on FH. Guess it'd seem a bit OMGUS? Whatever, doesn't mean my case isn't a solid one.

VOTE: FrozenHell

[Mutleyddmc]

Yep it goes in that order. Honestly though everyone could have a case made against them so far.

[Messiah]

Prodding Zoggoth