Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[fuzzybutternut]

Since when can scum not promise things?

[Egg]

Mac, a Mod wouldn't interact so freely with scum out of fear of giving them away. This is especially true with a first time Mod.

Bo, i'd prefer if you disclose. Seriously considering voting if you don't.

Fuzzy, take my word for it. I'll explain later.

[Autti]

It looked sincere to me. He's actually scum hunting too by asking questions. So yeah, he's most likely town

Just like to point out that every faction in this game will scum hunt. So the assumption that scum hunting is town doesn't hold true here.

Also I will normally miss this period of high activity as I'm in Australia and have to sleep and then work early in the morning.

Also;
VOTE: Kyryana
Because I'm a man of my word.

[Does Bo Know]

Disclosing that information taints the results.

I'll disclose my information if you disclose yours, Egg. I have a feeling they're related.

[fuzzybutternut]

Autti has a point. Werewolves will hunt mafia. Mafia will hunt werewolves. Town will hunt both.

[Does Bo Know]

Yeah, scum does have to scum hunt too, technically. Kinda derped there for a moment.

[Icebox]

I was the only one to take Klick's question seriously and responded to it as such. Get it out because it won't taint anything. this is stifling early discussion and that's anti-town.

-Rem

[Bulbazak]

I don't know, Bo. I wasn't really liking the type of questions Mac was asking. What Fuzzy and I were talking about was not really game related. It was just typical RVS BS. I believe I'm seeing what everyone else is about Icebox. Rem tried too hard on the RQS. It feels forced.

[thenewearth]

VOTE: Icebox

Because cirno is BAAAAAKA!!! (Yes this is RVS. No one denies me of RVS)

Got an important RQS.

1. Are you Town? Give three sentences to explain your reasoning.
2. Who would you like to be Mafia with in this game?

1) Because I am. Are you not going to believe me? Damn you if you don't
2) I don't want anyone because I'm not mafia

And I will read after. Have other stuff to do.

[Klick]

I'll go ahead and say this, as there's only one person who hasn't posted. Anyone who answered with only one partner for #2 has a high chance of being a Werewolf. The RQS has worked for me in this setup before - feel free to look it up. My name's kondi in those.

All I remember seeing was fuzzy and Icebox. However, since Icebox is a hydra and both heads answered with one partner, VOTE: Icebox.

This also means that those two have a very low chance of being Mafia. Also, anyone who didn't answer the question properly is probably some kind of scum because they're pretending to be lighthearted to look town.

PEdit: Not liking thenewearth so far.

[Does Bo Know]

Exactly what Klick said.

That's pretty much explanatory of why I think Icebox is scum, and Klick's probably town for the questions.

I already looked up earlier JR games where the same tactic was used.

[thenewearth]

PEdit: Not liking thenewearth so far.

I thought they were RANDOM questions.
So I gave RANDOM answers

[Icebox]

I would like to interject, and state that your method of questioning in this case is will not work on this hydra, I am an outlier. If I were scum, I would have ignored the question and only let my partner answer, so it's the opposite for us. I make of point of calling myself town as town.

Examples:
Rem town.
Rem scum.

In my town game, I call myself town repeatedly, to the point of supersaturation.
In my scum game, I never even mention that I'm town. And even warn the player the whole scum team could hammer.

[Icebox]

*-Rem

Sorry for ruining this mode of investigation.

[Icebox]

Might work on the others though.

-Rem.

[Bulbazak]

I think it's the second answer that pinged his scumdar. It's like Rem's #1.

I also want to know what Klick means by "answer the question properly". I actually wasn't taking them seriously.

P-Edit: Self-knowledge invalidates meta.

[Icebox]

Except I make a point of doing so, to defend myself as town and have put work into it.

[Does Bo Know]

Meta blah meta meta

You're just giving yourself an excuse to stay town because now you can yell that you're town all the time and tell people to refer to that game if someone doesn't believe you.

[Icebox]

It's not the same as saying "I wouldn't do this as scum" It's an investment of time, purposely constructed for a reason. It's your choice to believe me or not. I will continue to scum hunt, regardless. Those that know me, recognize that I am an outlier in such cases on this site.

-Rem

[Icebox]

Can't stay town, DBK, I am town.

-Rem

[Bulbazak]

My point is that self-knowledge invalidates meta for precisely that reason and turns it into WIFOM. Sorry, you're going to have to do something else to prove that you're town.

[Klick]

Rem's "I'm town" WIFOM is completely null. As such, I'm going to stick with my original argument, which they did nothing to refute.

[Does Bo Know]

My bad.

You can't stay town because you were never a town read to me in the first place.

Carry on.

[Klick]

Rem, if that is true, you're going to lose as scum a LOT.

[Icebox]

Or we could continue discussion instead, which is my focus.

I answered the question seriously and honestly. It's a stronger case than usual because I put an investment into it, I am saying I would go out of my way to respond to it as town and go out of my way not to respond to it as scum. I am saying it's more than likely the results were skewed because of this.

Pedit: The percentage of being town to scum is higher, by chance I will be town more than scum. So it increases my win percentage, it's sort of cheap, but I recognize that this will only be a problem once enough people on this site get to know me. But that's not the case so far.

-Rem