Open 493 - Jungle Republic. (Game Over - Werewolf Victory)

[Egg]

Icebox, show me three examples of him doing that as town and three NOT doing it as scum and I'll unvote.

Bo, while I can see what you are sating about zach, I feel like scum would be more likely to dance around it than avoid it completely. I feel like they feel a need to address everything to avoid being called out. He probably legitimately didn't see the importance of answering.

Mac, I don't get it. The reason why scum shouldn't forget there are two teams is that they are scum who won't forget they have buddies and they are also genuinely looking for scum. Why would this only apply to one of the two teams? Or do you have a different reason for believing this? Actually, your original comment about it being a scumslip implied that you just saw it as a scumslip and not a specific scum group slip.

I've yet to read after Mac's post but I've got to stop reading for now.

[fuzzybutternut]

I was implying that he hadn't done much of anything but sheep throughout the game.

[Autti]

I also can't see town forgetting there are two scum teams; scum just seems more likely

You did at the start of this game when I pointed out to you that both scum teams can legitimately scum hunt.

You mean in the beginning when Autti called me town and then made observations instead of noting townie details?

i didn't say you're town. I said you seem alright. As in not scummy in the posts TNE was highlighting.

If you click the #167 link in his post, it links to another game called Robots.

Woops. Still figuring out how to use this forum code

[Autti]

Yeah, scum does have to scum hunt too, technically. Kinda derped there for a moment.

The post of Bo's I'm talking about for reference.

[Autti]

Sorry to make a hat-trick of posts. Using my phone.

But I really dislike how Icebox is using meta to clear TNE, when most people didn't like the meta that "confirmed" her as town in Klicks view. Seems like she is trying to meta a scum buddy into town again like what happened for her/him (sorry icebox can't remember if your a girl or guy. Wait how do hydras self identify? Probably a question for somewhere else).

[zachattack]

And why don't you want TNE lynched?

Meh, just read that Zach also might not have had time to answer the questions. So I'm less suspicious of Zach. But he's definitely not townie to me right now.

Yeah this. I didn't get a chance to read until after Klick exposed his reasons for the questioning. Seemed pointless at that point.

TNE is a classic scum or dumb situation, and this wagon was clearly coming, to those who argued against my preemptive dismissing of this wagon. I think he's dumb town here. I've read his scum games. He tries not to act like such an idiot in them. The lack of effort is a town tell for him in my eyes.

Curious about Rem's read on me. I understand not fully explaining a read to the rest of the game, you don't want to taint my reactions. But not explaining to your Hydra partner? Man, one of these times it would be nice to play with a town Hydra, just to see what it's like. Still happy with my vote on Fuzzy, and Icebox is still my #2.

[Icebox]

Icebox, show me three examples of him doing that as town and three NOT doing it as scum and I'll unvote.

I'll get to the towngames later, but 3 scum metas from him.

Micro 129
Micro 138
Newbie 1331

In these scum games, TNE is actually more serious/try-hard/whatever than he normally is.

[Bulbazak]

Also can't see Icebox's response being a full-on defense, and how that paints him as scummy.

I said that if TNE flips town, that Icebox was

likely

his partner. Icebox addressed only this part of the post (Which I saw suspicious, since everyone, even if they commented on anything else, commented on the robot comment. That's what I meant with inadvertent reaction test.). It felt like scum who felt like they had been caught and had to turn it around on their attacker. Sort of like how after someone says, "I think X is scum.", the other person replies, "No I'm not! You are!". It's a knee-jerk reaction scumtell, and Icebox committed it.

Bulb, why did you have Egg as scum initially?

It was mainly for trying to direct the NK. That's not normally an action I would associate with town.

[Does Bo Know]

Oh yeah, I forgot Egg did that.

[thenewearth]

Zach and Icebox seems to be defending me for no reasons. :/

Which would make me look like buddies of them when one of them flips an anti-town

[Does Bo Know]

Yeah, they're only relying on your meta ATM.

[thenewearth]

Guys. Don't rely on my meta.

Don't you read my sig? I'm an inconsistent player.

So if I scumhunt now does that make me scum? Seriously guys?

[Does Bo Know]

So you do feel like you aren't scum hunting?

[thenewearth]

I said it was for fuzzy only. Y u look at it?

Anyways...

Town: Klick

Scum/Werewolf/Whatever: Bo, Icebox, Bulba

Leaning Scum/Werewolf/Whatever: fuzzy

Null: Everyone else

Though bulba decreased to leaning.

[Does Bo Know]

You're not answering my question.

You say this:

So if I scumhunt now does that make me scum? Seriously guys?

Which implies you haven't been scum hunting.

I don't want reads.

I want you to tell me whether or not you feel like you are really scum hunting so far.

[thenewearth]

What do you do to get reads?

[Does Bo Know]

So you feel like you're scum hunting.

So explain why you said "if I scum hunt now" in 236.

[thenewearth]

I mean "Turn it up a notch"

[Does Bo Know]

It sounded like "turn it on" instead of "turning up a notch."

So you really think people might suspect you if Icebox or Zach flipped scum?

[thenewearth]

Maybe. That or both of them are sum setting me up to be one of their partners so the other goes off scot free

[Does Bo Know]

Do you still like where your vote is?

[thenewearth]

Yup

[Does Bo Know]

UNVOTE: thenewearth
He can be town for now.

[Egg]

Icebox, I'll look at those links later.

Bulb, if I were scum, why would I tell scum to shoot the other team? If I'm on the team that can NK, I have no reason to "direct" that kill because it's my own kill. If I'm on the other team, I'm effectively telling them to shoot my team. There's no way at all that that makes sense as a scum tell.

[Does Bo Know]

Bulb, if I were scum, why would I tell scum to shoot the other team? If I'm on the team that can NK, I have no reason to "direct" that kill because it's my own kill. If I'm on the other team, I'm effectively telling them to shoot my team. There's no way at all that that makes sense as a scum tell.

Shhh...

Listen.

You hear that?

Sounds a lot like WIFOM.

Egg could be on werewolf team and fulfill his own prophecy. That's easily a possibility. He's right that it wouldn't make sense for him to be Mafia and tell Werewolves to shoot Mafia. Unless he's buss-happy.

Why are you worried anyway, Egg? We're sitting here telling you you're town and you're still worried about that one possible inconsistency.