Newbie 1365 - Vantasmagoria of Flower View (Game Over)

[MontyWhittaker]

Well, to be honest, now that the hammer has been placed, there is no need for him to continue giving insights were he scum. I am afraid that a mistake was made...

[Sakura Hana]

Well, i did read ML happen all the time on D1 specially on newbie games, dang i need to learn to read people better >_<

[MontyWhittaker]

I thought I had this one as well.

[Shawn]

Well, i did read ML happen all the time on D1 specially on newbie games, dang i need to learn to read people better >_<

Again attitude

So depressing

[Sakura Hana]

Who do you think might be target for NK Monty?

[Sakura Hana]

Tho if Shawn flips town, i have a feeling that Thor and Irish might be people to look at, specially Thor since he was the first to throw suspicion on him. If he flips scum, then i have no idea where to go

[Shawn]

Also look at how quick monty is to disbelieve himself and his read. And look at the surety with which he placed his lynch. 'no reason to think you are town'. This guy is scum boyos.

[Sakura Hana]

Also look at how quick monty is to disbelieve himself and his read. And look at the surety with which he placed his lynch. 'no reason to think you are town'. This guy is scum boyos.

If you were scum, you wouldn't have the need to claim your possible targets for a NK even after reaching lynch votes, that's what he's saying.

[Sakura Hana]

Also you cant really blame him, 6 people including me wanted you dead. You weren't really helping your own case much back then, i'm surprised you didn't have more people after your head... 6 ppl?

7 town, 2 maf... omg

[MontyWhittaker]

Looking solely at votecount, you're intriguing, Sahura, in that you were attacking Shawn and didn't vote for him.

Thor and MM seem like good targets for an NK solely because of their experience. In games I have played on other sites, it has been a given that the older users go first. But since that doesn't lend itself to a logical gameplay, it could be anyone.

PEdit: I am disbelieving at this point solely because of your surety following a hammer. I wouldn't expect that from a typical scum. If you flip town, it would not surprise me at this point as giving additional info after a hammer is not a scum move. There is no need for you to do it unless you are town.

[Shawn]

Also look at how quick monty is to disbelieve himself and his read. And look at the surety with which he placed his lynch. 'no reason to think you are town'. This guy is scum boyos.

If you were scum, you wouldn't have the need to claim your possible targets for a NK even after reaching lynch votes, that's what he's saying.

Yeah. still look at his confidence and suddenly he is really unconfident after i get lynched.

[Sakura Hana]

I gave my reasons to why i unvoted him before, i pretty much wanted more discussion, tho you came and hammered anyways so that went out of the window

[Sakura Hana]

If we consider the people not voting him to be likely scum, then syco and comando should be our next targets, considering the mass ammount of people wanting Shawn dead i wouldn't be surprised if scum blended in. I specifically said i wanted to give Shawn at least one more day Monty, any reason why you hammered before then?

[Shawn]

If we consider the people not voting him to be likely scum, then syco and comando should be our next targets, considering the mass ammount of people wanting Shawn dead i wouldn't be surprised if scum blended in. I specifically said i wanted to give Shawn at least one more day Monty, any reason why you hammered before then?

Why are you not sheeping me? I dont get it. Now that I flipped town . Or am going to flip town. Also scum were definitely on my wagon.

I suggest everyone rereads day 1 and my ISO, it would be useful in determining reads. Please. I beg you. I wanna win the game too.

[MontyWhittaker]

I had stated an intent to hammer before. After that full day, I had concluded what I was looking at. No one else was giving any insight, and there was no need to continue with deliberations.

Just looking at your post confuses me, though. You say that a lot of people wanted Shawn dead and that many were blending in. So how do you jump to commandodude and sycorax, people who did not vote for Shawn, as your next scum targets?

[Sakura Hana]

I said "If" the scum weren't in the crowd, why are you twisting my words? I wanted Shawn dead, but i wanted more discussion so i unovted before someone hammered since his fate was sealed anyways.

[MontyWhittaker]

Ah, sorry. That was entirely my fault in misreading that. I don't know why we would assume that those not voting Shawn were scum though.

[Sakura Hana]

Because scum like to lay low and watch how Town lynches each other, considering syco's dissapearance and commando lack of activity it wouldn't be surpsing if they were fence sitting, but i can't be certain.

[Sakura Hana]

Idk, why do you think mafia would go against the most experienced targets, when they are still under suspicion of some Townys? I'm asking because i fear i might be the target of a night kill, no one has pointed suspicion at me besides Thor (so far), and im way too active >_<

[Sakura Hana]

Actually, i might have been protecting the PRs without noticing, if they do choose to kill me.

[Shawn]

Ok reads list:

Commandodude: Town because he put himself in the spotlight so much, his posts were too stupid to be scum. Scum think through their posts, Commando didnt.

MontyWhittaker: Scum because in my filter there are many reasons
Sakura Hana: Town because she seems intent on finding scum and has tried her hardest to lynch scum day 1.
Shawn: Town
sycorax*: Null: Hasnt posted in a while, do not lynch before MM and Monty and Thor though. Im thinking town because I liked some of her posts but Im not very sure
TheIrishPope: Town because too dumb to be scum. He kept up his idea of how he wants to play the game and I think that he really thinks that that is a good way to play town.(it isnt), Again only lynch after those 3.
Ms Marangal [SE]: Scum. Bad defense of Monty and refused to engage me, her supposed town read on why we thought differently. Also 180ed from earlier where she said that we should look into Monty and Irish. Then she cannot explain why she switches her vote on me, her strongest townread throughout the game. Also she defended me earlier against strong accusations and when I was under no pressure, somehow switched reads on me. Lynch if Monty flips scum and even if he doesnt.
Nekoko [SE]: Null, she wants to scumhunt I feel.
Thor665 [IC]: Bad case on me, and his recent inactivity. His most recent post felt like he was trying to pile more shit on me rather than actually asking me anything. Lynch after MM and Monty

[Shawn]

No, no one looks bad off such a drawn out townie lynch except MM and she tried her hardest to not look bad. Scum dont care whether they are on a townie lynch, it does not make them look bad.

[Sakura Hana]

well you have 3 scumspects, which means at least one of them is wrong.

[Shawn]

well you have 3 scumspects, which means at least one of them is wrong.

Which is why there is a lynch order. Follow that, and you will win. Thanks for playing.

[Sakura Hana]

Also if you're a ML like it seems, then that means at D3 we will be at LyLo if ML happens on D2, don't think we can afford to many risks at this point.