Khan's Wacky Xylbot II Mafia (Mini 1441) (Game Over)

[Voidedmafia]

Voided, Molla, vote me.

This game needs to go somewhere.

...As tempted as I am, I'm still trying to wrap my head around the self-vote.

[Parama]

you morons wimped on the shos wagon from a pretty limp claim so don't you dare be blaming me for this btw

[BBmolla]

Why

[Parama]

well molla
can you daykill syr for me?
if not, vote me.

[Tierce]

I'm willing for this wagon to go through just because it's obvious the scum want me dead.
And I have no clue why anyone thinks I'm scum, Tierce's entire read is meta (read: trash) and Syr's entire post is literally "Molla is faking Jester and Parama is scum with Molla" without reading into my alignment at all. Syr is incredibly dead when I flip town though so.
Though Tierce is doing a blatant vote townie fos scumbuddy when she has a legit case on Syr and just meta on me, so I have my doubts about her being town too.
Anyways have fun guys~

!vote: Parama

Oh, by all means, do go on. Be entertaining~

Meta is definitely not trash, not when it is a pattern of what you usually do. You are doing nothing to reject my points about you, and the fact that the two posts I brought to attention are scummy and tend to come from a scum-Parama mindset. Just ignoring those points won't make them go away, and you know that self-voting is bad and anti-Town. I don't buy that you are doing that as Town when you could be actually putting in real content; it's not like you are short of stuff to go through from Syryana's latest posts, but you chose to roll over and point vague fingers at Syryana/shos/Rufflig/me when you were at... L-3? L-2 with your self-vote. I don't buy that whiny AtE when you claim you have so many juicy scum targets.

[Parama]

the game you linked is over a year old.
are you saying my play isn't going to change in the slightest after a year?

[Tierce]

The game I linked to was a joke/taunt; I have fond memories of it. I have played with you and read other games since, and discussed your meta with others prior to this game (Empire being the main one). Why is this the core of your focus and why aren't you addressing my actual points?

[Parama]

*scans your ISO*

There is literally nothing but meta. This is why I only brought up meta.
Please point me to these actual points so I can address them.

[Tierce]

Nah. Look deeper.

[Parama]

Translation: "I have nothing but meta"

[Voidedmafia]

Post 149 was the kind of :effort: crap Parama pulls as scum. I was fine with the hammer coming from him, but the following post was really really bad. Post 315 is equally bad. You want to see someone who clearly believes you are scum? /)U^.^U/) (\U^.^U(\

not meta.

Also, you seem to be funneling her points about how you play as "meta" in general and aren't actually trying to differentiate the points...which is a problem of the strawmanistic kind (screw you all, I just made a new word). Just because the points fall under the "meta" label doesn't absolve you of having to answer them.

P-EDIT: Which is still not a reason to look for them.

[Parama]

Okay Voided, thank you.
First line is meta. Super special awesome vague meta.
Second is "really bad"
Third is "equally bad:
Fourth is nothing.

I'm sure glad there are points to refute there.

[serrapaladin]

Tierce is pretty cool.

Pushing a policy lynch? On

page 1

? This is pretty transparently bad play. Possible jester? I originally thought so. Now we have two possible jesters, both on page 1. Interesting.

Yeah, because using policy as an RVS reason is just "transparently bad".

Both Syr and shos are pushing BB/Para as scum together. My guess is, it's Syr, shos and either BB or Para (probably the latter). I refuse to believe a BB/Para pairing.

Welcome, Tierce.

Damn it, Tierce. I've been trying to tone down my towniness so I could make it further into the games more often. Looks like I'm still a fairly easy alignment read, though. Oh well.

So this guy is third party? I doubt he's scum, but third party sounds about right.

The Para selfvote just screams gambit....

Post 149 was the kind of :effort: crap Parama pulls as scum. I was fine with the hammer coming from him, but the following post was really really bad. Post 315 is equally bad. You want to see someone who clearly believes you are scum? /)U^.^U/) (\U^.^U(\

not meta.

Also, you seem to be funneling her points about how you play as "meta" in general and aren't actually trying to differentiate the points...which is a problem of the strawmanistic kind (screw you all, I just made a new word). Just because the points fall under the "meta" label doesn't absolve you of having to answer them.

P-EDIT: Which is still not a reason to look for them.

Why would you pick the least specific part of Tierce's case to point out? The lines you quoted are just stating how bad Para is, which doesn't constitute a case, meta or otherwise. (btw Para, you know that 1st, 2nd line etc. depends on your screen resolution and text size, right? For me that was all one line.)

[Tierce]

Phonepost.

I'm fairly sure I'm cool enough to get you lynched without a full-blown case, Parama, and I have no interest in mincing small words with you. But talk to me tomorrow and I might indulge since I have nothing to do at night. Out in #VEGAS tonight so etc.

serrapaladin: Reasoning for those reads, please. Including that Rufflig one.

[Voidedmafia]

Why would you pick the least specific part of Tierce's case to point out? The lines you quoted are just stating how bad Para is, which doesn't constitute a case, meta or otherwise. (btw Para, you know that 1st, 2nd line etc. depends on your screen resolution and text size, right? For me that was all one line.)

Parama said her case was "all meta." I was pointing out where he was wrong.

Also, I'm still kinda stuck on that self-vote, so pardon me if I look a little behind.

[BBmolla]

I don't know what to do, I feel like kid who is watching while his parents argue

[Tierce]

I don't know what to do, I feel like kid who is watching while his parents argue

Shape it up. What do you think of Parama?

[PimHel]

Albeit less so than GreyICE, Parama is slippery and will hold onto other wagons if we give him the chance to do so and not get lynched himself.

I don't like Para's posts after Tierce pointed this out (the self-vote and him pointing out Syry as wagon, but not going for it himself)

However, I want to see Tierce post what she sees as the meta from Parama, Syry and Untrod.
Because I've looked at that YOLO game and Untrod is acting way differently here. And that meta argument against Syry was bad.
Also waiting on her opinion against Serra.

Serra's last post was bad.


Not swayed by the Parama cases from Tierce and Syry. I'm not buying the Para-Molla combi (syry case) and Tierce has shown meta against Parama and she mentioned mudslinging from one of Parama's posts.
The only thing I can see as scummy is the bit above, but Untrod and Serra are much worse.

[shos]

Holy crap guys don't you love it when tierce goes into a game with you. I'll read eveeeeerryyythjing tomorrow.

[BBmolla]

I don't know what to do, I feel like kid who is watching while his parents argue

Shape it up. What do you think of Parama?

I'll reread when I get home from shopping.

Otherwise I'll stop wasting your time and replace out.

[BBmolla]

Tierce I feel opposite of you at this point. I feel like Parama could be scum, but only if Syr flips scum.

*shrug*

[Tierce]

Hey Parama. I have fresh meta on you! ^__^

(Oh no, oh no, she's using meta, meta is "trash".)

With that said, I just woke up, and there is a meal and about three hours before I can dedicate myself to this game.

[Parama]

if you're saying I'm playing this game similar to puppy mafia

all I have to say is:

ell
oh
ell

[shos]

Kay so I'm startin g my reread from page 13, top.
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302 by voided is terribad. ignores my points and points to the terribly weak accusations of me by parama. I addressed them later and he hasn't responded. Rufflig's post is good, specifically the last sentence.

I might be biased but I find it quite odd that Wind-up was force replaced by the players so easily while he wanted to vote Parama. this suggests windup/tierce town and parama scum again.

PimHel starts a discussion on 308 about how the three people I accused can be together in a scumteam. by itself, it's an ok question and the post is actually good, and he follows up on it in 310 with what seems to be legit despite the fact I disagree with it. I'm getting a good feeling on that slot, and iirc my last wall thought that too

then voided starts again. he keeps pushing for I don't remember how many(I'll probably read it soon) times about the 'trio' scumread of mine, entirely ignoring the fact that when I said why I thought they were scum, syry was completely unrelated to the other couple. not liking voided at all lately.

Parama's 315 is stupid, useless and distracting. usually people don't need to ask for prods, and even if, the fact someone believes you're scum doesn't mean they have the time to see the activity list every hour or two; especially if they're talking to other people as well.

I'm agreeing with me on my next few posts; Parama disregarding me with the 'go home you're drunk' just because my phoneposting sucks is bad too, he creates a way to ignore my posts in a way that looks funny.

@Pimhel 325: is correct, I indeed did not respond about that quote. I will now: I don't understand why it makes that scumteam not possible. but once again, syry is a different read than tha other couple

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so far summary: scums are from scum to less: Parama, voided, molla, syry
~~
Oh wow @328. so stupid. so useful.

actually take a look at his ISO. entirely useless.

330: "Oh he is scum and I would even tell you why but it's so obvious so I won't "

post 352 is bad again (parama). is it reaely not understandable? is your english like an 8-years old kid's?

post 353 is good and proves that we have at least one person who thinks here. that third paragraph is 150% what I was trying to say for a thousand pages now, and I don't understand how you guys didn't get it.
there is also a correct statement that according to my case parama should be lynched before molla if any; so

!unvote

for now.

posts 357 proves that parama is being a douche. to that response - because I thought he was scum obviously, that's a really stupid question.

Syryana's 376 is bad. If you vote someone for pressure or for info, you don't SAY that. cuz then they'll know that you're not serious with wanting to lynch them. this only shows that syry is still scummy, since it supports a very viable lynch while not really trying to get scum with that lynch.

~~~
thoughts so far:
I want to lynch voided and parama badly. I think that both are scum, and possibly syry and molla are as well. this might actually suggest two scumteams at least... >__>;

gonna take a break and continue later

[shos]

it shoiuld also be noted before I leave that I think rufflig and Pimhel are town members.