Xenoblade Mafia (Game Over)

[RachMarie]

oh wait I forgot

Discussion on Mollie putting a collar and leash on Jiffy ....

[RachMarie]

uh oh SORRY BORK

[Venmar]

Nacho being accepted into a town bloc probably means he is town.

I would appreciate if Majiffy and Mollie could sign their posts for BnB. Would help me personally.

[RachMarie]

how can you not tell them apart its easy

Jiffy is more grammatically correct and more abrasive

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

I'm not saying you're scum, I just... ugh i don't even know this just seems so wrong. You're accusing 2 super hard, and then not even allowing 2 to even be able to respond to your case, because you say the mod won't let you actually state it.

So then I guess the best followup question I can give you is this:

Are you so sure that 2 is scum to the point that you'd willingly jump off a cliff if 2 flipped town?

If your conviction is THAT strong, then I will respect that.

I feel pretty strongly about it. in fact I will say YES.

I want to discuss it with nacho. it is my nature to doubt my reads and question them but I feel pretty good about this one. I have questioned it and looked at it from all angles and yes, I feel pretty confident about this read.

I feel confident about my read on aj as well. feeling good about my town reads too.

@ rach

yeah to cabd

eta: no rach, core town bloc is us/nacho/orc/mac

I have you, rev and varsoon there too and so does nacho I think. not sure how orc and mac feel.

-mollie

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

hi venny!

also where is guy he was posting in his other games earlier

[Cabd]

[quote="In post 2329, BeautyAndTheBeast"

I feel pretty strongly about it. in fact I will say YES.

I want to discuss it with nacho. it is my nature to doubt my reads and question them but I feel pretty good about this one. I have questioned it and looked at it from all angles and yes, I feel pretty confident about this read.

-mollie[/quote]

Okay. Talk to nacho, confirm it, because I won't sign up to that wagon until I'm sure that you're sure. It's nothing personal mind you. I just really don't want to rush into this. What do you/nacho have on AJ/2 that you CAN tell us?

@bork can you at least confirm that you did in fact tell BB/Nacho they could not post a certain amount of information?

[Cabd]

Blah, quote tags fail. Hold on.

[Cabd]

Fixed version:

I feel pretty strongly about it. in fact I will say YES.

I want to discuss it with nacho. it is my nature to doubt my reads and question them but I feel pretty good about this one. I have questioned it and looked at it from all angles and yes, I feel pretty confident about this read.

-mollie

Okay. Talk to nacho, confirm it, because I won't sign up to that wagon until I'm sure that you're sure. It's nothing personal mind you. I just really don't want to rush into this. What do you/nacho have on AJ/2 that you CAN tell us?

@bork can you at least confirm that you did in fact tell BB/Nacho they could not post a certain amount of information?

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[Andrius]

VENMAR <33

[GuyInFreezer]

Raaaaaaach

I want ur scumgame plz

[borkjerfkin]

bork can you at least confirm that you did in fact tell BB/Nacho they could not post a certain amount of information?

I will not comment on such a scenario.

The rules should clarify lines of communication that are considered inappropriate topics for in-game conversation. Any hypothetical ruling I give to someone about what they may or not talk about would simply be a restatement, clarification, or interpretation of those rules.

[Venmar]

I'm getting some random love

So far pretty solid town read on Nacho, gut town read on Mac, and leaning on town on Andrius based on a very quick ISO.

Not much else on anybody else.
- Andy ( or anyone else ) how do you stand on Rach? Getting a slight gut scumread on her.

[GuyInFreezer]

@Rev
Did you read my explanation why varsoon is town?

[BeautyAndTheBeast]

VENMAR <33

could you pretty plz respond to my post? tia

[Cabd]

bork can you at least confirm that you did in fact tell BB/Nacho they could not post a certain amount of information?

I will not comment on such a scenario.

The rules should clarify lines of communication that are considered inappropriate topics for in-game conversation. Any hypothetical ruling I give to someone about what they may or not talk about would simply be a restatement, clarification, or interpretation of those rules.

That's what I thought.

Noted.

[²]

Cabd, I owe you some thanks for pressing for clarity because it's really brought home to me absurdity of this fogbank of a case on us that mollie has been pushing.

- f

[Cabd]

What do you/nacho have on AJ/2 that you CAN tell us?

This was directed at you, beauty.

[Andrius]

- Andy ( or anyone else ) how do you stand on Rach? Getting a slight gut scumread on her.

First game with her, interesting to watch. If people hadn't been calling this meta all day, I'd be reading way harder scum on her. She's passable town for now.

Sorry dear, I missed your response; getting to that now.

mollie

actually I am too! I have a dislike for sunlight as evidenced by my pasty white skin

<3 Inclement weather adds more character to a day than simply SUN EVERYWHERE which is just unrealistic and rather boring.
Though I do enjoy walks on the beach, though, in my experience those have generally cold rocky beaches up here in the north.

I was asking more about content wise and I thought I had been the one who was doing most of the posting! I am not big on capitalisation or punctuation. it is more random when I do it.

I

do

like the content. But that's boring and I infered we'd get to that later.

it is more random when I do it.

Really? Mine's more deliberate so if I get to the point where I nocaps and only use periods you'll know we're not all 8DDD anymore.

I guess I am just kind of surprised that you didn't comment on it at all until i asked you

There were a whole lot of posts and to find the one sometimes it takes awhile of looking and pursuing different posts until you find the one that's meant for you.
And sometimes I have to be beaten over the head before I see it.

I once sheeped all of nacho's reads in a game. he was scum and I knew he was scum and it was funny. you should ask him about it

You know, I'm not sure if I've ever been town where he's been scum and had it made a difference.

so even if nacho says he has a smoking gun that he can't talk about on aj you would still want to put aj in your town pile? what has aj done that is so town?

If Nacho asked me to I'd jump. Its a good read, but not strong enough. Besides, its Nacho.

Oh.

Smoking gun. Then yeah bye AJ hello Chekhov.
Though I do admit I've glanced over his last couple posts in the pursuit of other people.

okay. I just found it weird cos I listed a lynch list too and didn't comment on it and yet you commented on varsoon's which is composed of low hanging fruit.

His was in bold and at the bottom of his long post. Easily seen.
Afraid I missed yours (again).

I agree a scum lynch is a scum lynch but you have 2 down as a strong scum read so I am not understanding why you are not helping me push this instead of telling varsoon that you are willing to settle for his lynch choices when I don't think anyone in the "town bloc" is super interested in. orc, mac and nacho can correct me if I am wrong.

Its D1. I'm merely trying to convey the fact that I'm willing to compromise on lynches given there probably other ways to bust skulls around here.

100% agree about nacho. let's spend the rest of the game trolling majiffy by pretending that is the only thing he said.

<3 As you wish.

anyways you are not adding up so I am looking forward to your responses.

I don't add up well to begin with. I've been told that I take a bit of getting used to.

Ghostlin still town.
GiF read weakening.
Cabd will have to be read in more detail.

[TheReverend]

@Rev
Did you read my explanation why varsoon is town?

Yeah, something about town mindset. I disagree. It was a messy gambit. It can easily be noob scum making a hash of something he saw in one of his earlier games.

But his #2253, while appealing to emotion, does seem like a genuinely frustrated townie. If that's a scum post, it's very fucking good. That's why I've backed off varsoon.

I think MS is scum though. Him demanding I back off varsoon is still sitting badly with me. I don't see the pro-town reasons for wanting someone to back off a town read. How can he be so sure varsoon is town?

I can see scum motivation for it though. Let's say I succeed in getting varsoon lynched... who looks good for trying to stop the wagon? It's basic scum strat, but in the total absence of any town motivation, this is what I'm leaning.

Hi venmar.

[Cabd]

Let me be clear.

I'm not saying 2 is reading town in my book. It's still leaning scum because despite the answer I think the 4 thing was a slip.

However. I'll be damned if I lynch ANYONE on "evidence" that doesn't fucking exist.

I figured out what I was feeling a few posts ago. The word I was searching for was "unethical"

It is unethical as fuck to push a lynch on "illegal" evidence that you can't even speak about.

As far as I'm concerned, until you (BB) and nacho present the other parts of the case, you have no case.

P-Edit: Rev I like this direction, let's go there.

[GuyInFreezer]

@Rev: well considering that Varsoon once quickhammered to line up the lynch as TOWN, his "messy gambit" doesn't bother as much. (The same game that you linked. Newb1339.)

MS I have him as town atm and he's very lazy as town. He's one of those who doesn't play "normally."

[RachMarie]

Scum games

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28169

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=27296

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=25691 Replaced in for DO after he hard bussed both his scum budz I really figured I was gonna lose this one...

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26894

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=27884 Werewolf in this one

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24944 Uggh this one I replaced in and did not realize the IC was at L-1 and ended up derp hammering him we lost the game over it facepalm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24980 First time as both IC and Scumz



Town games

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=26144


http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=26834

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=25373 Replaced in as uggh Doc But this was a fun and funny game LOL

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=24031
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=23651

(these two games above were some of the few times I was actually NKed instead of mislynched as town).

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=23495 I was mislynched as the IC and later Thor replaced in and tried to get me lynched... again.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=26040 Town Ascetic sucks

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=25670 Lynched on D 1 after I claimed N 1 Doc by SEVEN Townies.... eep



These are fairly recentish I did not post ALL my completed games....

[GuyInFreezer]

also rev I know you townread on varsoon but are you still curious why I see him as town?

[Aj The Epic]

Hi Venmar.

Recap of this game probably looks like:

2/Aj constant suspects
TMT is scum but no one wants to lynch for some reason. (Had 8 null reads in his one read list)
GIF is town without question
Rev claimed miller/tracker early on in the thread
Varsoon is trolling. Came up with a strategy that almost got people modkilled. Luckily, people actually have played this game before.
Rach is also trolling. But apparently town.
Andrisu and BRO seem to be incredibly busy and so most of their stuff is catch-up posting
Orc, Nacho, BnB, 2 posted way too much early on. 2 still posts way too much.
Cabd is almost certainly town (based on a few townslips)
Majiffy may get leashed by mollie
Metal Sonic has an infamous 2 minute iso of Tiphlaine Death. We're trying to get him to admit he didn't read anything. (he also "read" 30 pages in 15 minutes)
Buldermar (part of 2) posted the first wall he's ever posted (I guess)

In actual game events, we only have 1 claim (Sven/Rev's) which caused a lot of discussion. He claimed Miller first and 10 pages later added tracker. On switch-in, Rev only claimed Miller. Later admitted to full claim being true, said he didn't want to full claim his power role even though he expected to get lynched. Something about "Oh trackers are useless anyways..."