Newbie 1378 - Game Over! (Town Wins)

[Linxie]

Oh ok, I understand better now. Sorry I misunderstood you point.

[JasonWazza]

Clearly.

[Linxie]

You're such a bundle of joy... I'm definitely going to ensure I play another game with you

[JasonWazza]

I'm not always an ass, just mostly when i scum-hunt (and when people do stupid shit like RC did.)

[JasonWazza]

Talk to me after the game and i will be less of an ass

Also do you think Mattel and Lucky2u are scum?

Cause a vote on one of them would be good.

[Linxie]

LOL No worries, I was teasing you :p (My way of dealing)

I do but nothing more than a feeling based on their voting and general lack of scum hunting.

Since I'm at work, I don't have the time to go through the thread like I would at home, so will put a better post together this evening and will more than likely place my vote then.

[JasonWazza]

if you have a feeling, trust it and put some pressure on to get more alignment tells.

[Linxie]

You're right. Post 241 and 242 of Mattel's concern me the most. In 241 he still suspects Crazzygoat as trying to divert attention and says he's going to go reread the last few pages again. After doing so, he comes back with a vote on Lucky2u based on the fact that Lucky2u did not actually RC like he said he did. That's not reason enough to vote someone imo and I feel it was the perfect opportunity to jump on a wagon.

Now because I feel mattel is scum, I can't possibly feel lucky2u is also scum right since mattel voted lucky? Wrong, I do and it's a well known tactic for scum to bus each other. Previous game I played in, scum won this way by bussing each other from the very beginning.

Lucky2u has cleary not scum hunted this game and has hopped wagons instead. Post 53 he has a scum read on Radiant and Para, then post 68 he changes his mind and says Radiant can't be scum because of Supernatural. Then post 81 Radiant is scum again. There's also the Nul investigation (by this, I mean Nul's asking questions etc) which is pretty compelling. In post 105 of Lucky's he's replying to Nul and keeps refreshing the page to make sure he's up to date. I don't like this... town isn't going to sit there watching who's posting in order to make sure they've replied to everything... town doesn't think this way.
I'm not sure what to make of his last write up either since he mentioned himself as scummy. Who does that?

[JasonWazza]

So vote Lucky then? >.>

[Linxie]

Before I vote for anyone I need to check something first.

If everyone's votes have been placed and majority hasn't been reached, does that cause a NL?

[JasonWazza]

No.

NL only occurs at Deadline, or if the Soft Majority of the town decide to NL.

[JasonWazza]

For clarification, a Soft Majority is as in if there is 8, then 4 is a soft majority, but 5 is a full majority.

[Linxie]

Thanks for the clarification.

VOTE: lucky2u

[JasonWazza]

Not a problem.

[enomis]

Hey Jason. Convince me you are town. If you are town, i think we have this game in our grasp.

Why did you think a radiant lynch is better then a lucky lynch day 1.

Also, could you provide your read list. From town-scum in that order. A simple explanation would suffice for each read. Could you do me that favour?

So your not going to defend the fact that you are being scummy and on top of that your sheeping a "he might be a cop because he voted straight away"

P-Edit: So you just possibly outted our PR, so how are you not scum?

Possibly outted our PR = Ucrito Cop/Tracker = possibly you scum. WTF is that argument. Your logic don't make sense.

@mastin: Is that your only case? Because it looks as weak as .... You think i am scum because you think my theory is not entirely correct. Is that it?

[enomis]

BTW, Possibly outted our PR = Ucrito Cop/Tracker = possibly

you

scum. WTF is that argument. Your logic don't make sense.

The bolded you refers to Jason.

[JasonWazza]

Dear god are you people stupid?

Voting straight up, considering he is making a case doesn't make him a PR which is a good thing.

I will try to do the list in a bit.

Also i thought Radiant was more scummy then Lucky at the time, and Radiant just stupid lynched herself.

List soonish.

[enomis]

Dear god are you people stupid?

Voting straight up, considering he is making a case doesn't make him a PR which is a good thing.

I will try to do the list in a bit.

Also i thought Radiant was more scummy then Lucky at the time, and Radiant just stupid lynched herself.

List soonish.

Do you not understand my question?
Your POV:
1.Lucky possibly just outted Ucrit as PR
2.Letting scum know who PR is.(not a good move as town)
3.Therefore lucky is scum.

But at the same time.
1.Luckt possibly just outted Ucrit as PR.
2.Therefore if Ucrit is PR, you would be scum.
3.Therefore Making your POV argument Illogical because you are arguing that lucky is scum based on the point that you are scum.

This shows a gap in Logic. Mind explaining this?

[JasonWazza]

Scum
Lucky2u
Mattel
Mastin2
uctriton00
enomis
Linxie
JasonWazza
Town

Reasoning:

Lucky2u has done fuck all scumhunting, seriously he's not scumhunting his sheeping people and OMGUSing.

Mattel, his kinda the same as Lucky in the scumhunting department and is voting based on Playstyle tells rather then Alignment tells.

Mastin2, His basically been an IC all game, little to no Active scumhunting, i think he is doing passive scumhunting possibly but he isn't sharing it in a way that i find town.

uctriton00, As much as i hate the fact that he is sheeping a stupid dead person, i think he could possibly be town, once i see his case i could possibly see him as more town.

enomis, This place is basically PoE rather then an actual read, i mean Paradigm was terrible but using PoE i think quite possibly town.

Linxie, Again with a bit of PoE and a lot of gut, this is more a gut town read.

P-Edit:

Do you not understand my question?
Your POV:
1.Lucky possibly just outted Ucrit as PR
2.Letting scum know who PR is.(not a good move as town)
3.Therefore lucky is scum.

But at the same time.
1.Luckt possibly just outted Ucrit as PR.
2.Therefore if Ucrit is PR, you would be scum.
3.Therefore Making your POV argument Illogical because you are arguing that lucky is scum based on the point that you are scum.

This shows a gap in Logic. Mind explaining this?

Not at all.

I don't think ucrit is a PR, however even so i could see a possible scum partner pointing out how he could be a town PR like this.

Though Ucrit isn't even nearly a PR in my mind, making a case isn't a PR.

[mattel]

So Jason is suggesting that if a cop or tracker got a read on him it would be false.

How does that work? Seems he could be grasping at straws here to stay alive.

Everything he is doing is reading scum and if we can get a couple more votes we will see he is in fact scum.

[enomis]

Also i thought Radiant was more scummy then Lucky at the time, and Radiant just stupid lynched herself.

Explain why radiant was more scummy than lucky.

I went and isoed Lucky a bit and found this.

Jason pointing out my point before I could make it, therefore, means that he's become my strongest townread.

Is this really a smart thing to do though; people who agree with you are automatically townie to you?

Let me answer for him. No. It isn't and if he thinks it is, he will be the easiest one of the scum to manipulate. That is a horrible way to decide a town read, and please don't make that same mistake.

This post. Lucky, why did you decide mastin would be one of the easiest scum to manipulate and not one of the easiest town to manipulate or even just one of the easiest player to manipulate. Why did you decide he was scum?

And nobody fking hammer Jason Now

[JasonWazza]

So Jason is suggesting that if a cop or tracker got a read on him it would be false.

How does that work? Seems he could be grasping at straws here to stay alive.

Everything he is doing is reading scum and if we can get a couple more votes we will see he is in fact scum.

CAUSE I'M FUCKING TOWN, YOU RETARDED?

[JasonWazza]

Also i'm CERTAIN that uct has no form of result that is incriminatory of me nor would he fake claim it because even though i'm a threat, this isn't LYLO and a 1v1 trade isn't beneficial for him (assuming he is scum).

So everyone assuming that is terrible, if anyone has a incrimnatory result, please step the fuck forward so we can all hear it.

[JasonWazza]

And let me point this out

1v1 for Town is actually beneficial for Town in this case

1v1 for Scum is terrible at any point.

@enomis: Radiant was scummy for only actually scumhunting when i decided to pressure him (And radiant even if you are a PR that doesn't mean you shouldn't be out there and scumhunting) it gave scummy vibes the whole time just lucky was being more scummy before hand, then he seemed very slightly more townish for a bit.

If anyone hammers me before i claim/say last words, i will scream at you post game.

[enomis]

Alright. Jason is town. If you are scum though, you really have me fooled.