Newbie 1389 Trouble in River City Game Over Scum win

fferyllt · Post Post #500 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:36 am

In post 498, Grimgroove wrote:
In post 497, fferyllt wrote:
Cheery isn't my partner, but I am leaning pretty strongly scum.

Then why aren't you voting him?
Looking at your reasons for voting JasonWazza, it doesn't look like you have a strong scumlean on him. Simply "not doing much" at least doesn't look like a signficant reason to me.

Because he has been in the thread and I am trying to refine my read. Based on day 1, I think it takes a vote to get his attention.

fferyllt · Post Post #501 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:37 am

In post 499, JasonWazza wrote:That's because she is scum with him Grim.

Your thinking is very one dimensional.

JasonWazza · Post Post #502 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:57 am

Well your reasoning is pretty shit.

fferyllt · Post Post #503 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:14 am

In post 502, JasonWazza wrote:Well your reasoning is pretty shit.

Maybe so. Can you answer my question about your town read of Lynx?

fferyllt · Post Post #504 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:00 pm

Lack of answer to 2nd prompt is noted.

Nobody Special · Post Post #505 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:19 pm

Kueshina has been prodded.

JasonWazza · Post Post #506 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:26 pm

In post 504, fferyllt wrote:Lack of answer to 2nd prompt is noted.

Keep your fucking pants on.

Also it's because i just get town vibes, i'm sure i can dig up why, but i don't see the need to.

It's not like anyone but you has requested them, and i think your scum so it's no use for me to dig shit up for scum.

Nobody Special · Post Post #507 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:26 pm

Votecount 2.02

fferyllt - 2 - Grimgroove, JasonWazza
JasonWazza - 1 - fferyllt
TheTrollie - 1 - Lynx_Shine

Not Voting: Kueshina, TheTrollie, Cheery Dog

With 7 it takes 4 to lynch

Deadline is in (expired on 2013-07-29 19:50:21)

Cheery Dog · Post Post #508 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 2:55 pm

In post 494, JasonWazza wrote: Pretty sure she earlier refered to me as a possible town read (when i got back into the game) Now that i suspect her after Grim's Posts (which are very convincing) and blatantly sheep him, she instantly votes me based on "no content you MUST BE SCUM"

So about you telling us which parts of Grim's posts are what caused you to want to sheep him so much.

In post 497, fferyllt wrote: Cheery isn't my partner

I thought you were calling yourself a mislynch before - now there's something about you not having me as a partner.

I am wanting to L-1 you with all this WIFOM about you being a mislynch and not actual defence though, except that I'm not having doing that when Kues hasn't posted yet today and not much else from Trollie (not really surprising) or Lynx.

fferyllt · Post Post #509 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 3:51 pm

In post 508, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 494, JasonWazza wrote: Pretty sure she earlier refered to me as a possible town read (when i got back into the game) Now that i suspect her after Grim's Posts (which are very convincing) and blatantly sheep him, she instantly votes me based on "no content you MUST BE SCUM"
So about you telling us which parts of Grim's posts are what caused you to want to sheep him so much.

In post 497, fferyllt wrote: Cheery isn't my partner
I thought you were calling yourself a mislynch before - now there's something about you not having me as a partner.

I am wanting to L-1 you with all this WIFOM about you being a mislynch and not actual defence though, except that I'm not having doing that when Kues hasn't posted yet today and not much else from Trollie (not really surprising) or Lynx.

I knew that would get your attention. Now, why are you reading me as scum? You never went into detail on day 1.

JasonWazza · Post Post #510 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:47 pm

CD seems more town from that last post, ff more scummy from her last post.

Stuff when i'm not phone posting.

fferyllt · Post Post #511 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:24 pm

In post 506, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 504, fferyllt wrote:Lack of answer to 2nd prompt is noted.
Keep your fucking pants on.

Also it's because i just get town vibes, i'm sure i can dig up why, but i don't see the need to.

It's not like anyone but you has requested them, and i think your scum so it's no use for me to dig shit up for scum.

I don't care what you say about me. All I care about is figuring out which of you are scum. Right now, when I flip it's going to be with a heavy duty FoS pointed at you, Jason. All the associative shit Grim thinks he has figured out will evaporate. And all that will be left are my confirmed town reads.

This is not a bad place to be IMO. Not on day 2. Day 3 I'd have to fight every step to avoid lynch. It's not a concern today.

JasonWazza · Post Post #512 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:51 pm

In post 508, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 497, fferyllt wrote: Cheery isn't my partner
I thought you were calling yourself a mislynch before - now there's something about you not having me as a partner.

I am wanting to L-1 you with all this WIFOM about you being a mislynch and not actual defence though, except that I'm not having doing that when Kues hasn't posted yet today and not much else from Trollie (not really surprising) or Lynx.

This reaction From CD seems very Town CD rather then Scum CD

I will have to re-evaluate slightly.

fferyllt wrote: I knew that would get your attention. Now, why are you reading me as scum? You never went into detail on day 1.

Opposite side of the spectrum, this is terrible, this is scum.

"Oh shit i just did something scummy, hey it was totally to get your attention"

No you just got caught doing something scummy, don't just turn it around.

I will re-read soonish.

Cheery Dog · Post Post #513 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:11 pm

In post 509, fferyllt wrote:I knew that would get your attention. Now, why are you reading me as scum? You never went into detail on day 1.

Right now, it';s because you've turned on the AtE with saying you're a mislynch and other non-actual defence.

I can't remember day 1 well enough to describe what my thoughts on people were then.

fferyllt · Post Post #514 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:19 pm

In post 513, Cheery Dog wrote:
In post 509, fferyllt wrote:I knew that would get your attention. Now, why are you reading me as scum? You never went into detail on day 1.
Right now, it';s because you've turned on the AtE with saying you're a mislynch and other non-actual defence.

I can't remember day 1 well enough to describe what my thoughts on people were then.

It's fact. not emotion. Who is my partner?

JasonWazza · Post Post #515 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:24 pm

It's not fact for anyone but you (if it even is fact) don't try to do that Fferyllt.

fferyllt · Post Post #516 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:29 pm

In post 515, JasonWazza wrote:It's not fact for anyone but you (if it even is fact) don't try to do that Fferyllt.

You too. Who is my partner?

JasonWazza · Post Post #517 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:31 pm

In post 512, JasonWazza wrote: I will re-read soonish.

Fucking read, maybe.

I'm not doing the re-read right now, but CD seems town enough for now.

fferyllt · Post Post #518 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:37 pm

In post 517, JasonWazza wrote:
In post 512, JasonWazza wrote: I will re-read soonish.
Fucking read, maybe.

I'm not doing the re-read right now, but CD seems town enough for now.

You have no preliminary thoughts at all about who a scum-fferyllt would be partners with. I don't believe you.

fferyllt · Post Post #519 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:39 pm

Actually I do believe you. That is not really what you are avoiding. Because I believe you know that I have no partner at all.

JasonWazza · Post Post #520 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:41 pm

Now your stretching, I had thought CD would be a viable partner, his reaction was too town to be faked in my opinion.

If i had to guess off my head, it'd probably be Trollie, but again this is without a re-read with the thought of CD probably being town.

So quit trying to re-direct suspicion when your fucking trapped in the spotlight.

Grimgroove · Post Post #521 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:42 pm

Kueshina and Lynx definitely have to get inhere before anything else happens.

Before they do, could you guys provide your reads on them? (I realize JasonWazza already did, so I'm addressing myself to Cheery Dog, fferyllt and Trollie)

I agree with Cheery Dog concerning ffreyllt's defence, and while he's more convincing in his "case" on her, his reaction to my catch-up was equally meek. It is not outlandishly difficult to make a good case against a scumpartners of whom you know she's scum.

I realize I could be seeing what I "want" to see, but it is entirely possible they're just distancing. They both claim to have had an eye on each other for a longer time, but before my arrival these feelings were never out in the open.

I remember likeabauss saying smething about play-adaptation: you get accused of something, and then you change your behavior so that the accusation doesn't hold anymore. But it did at some point.

I do agree with fferyllt that associative tells are "shit" when they make up the entire case. But they don't. You're each also scummy enough in your own right.

fferyllt · Post Post #522 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:43 pm

In post 520, JasonWazza wrote:Now your stretching, I had thought CD would be a viable partner, his reaction was too town to be faked in my opinion.

If i had to guess off my head, it'd probably be Trollie, but again this is without a re-read with the thought of CD probably being town.

So quit trying to re-direct suspicion when your fucking trapped in the spotlight.

The spotlight isn't bothering me. Why are you worried about my suspicion of you? You're town right? And I'm going to flip scum and you're going to have a glorious celebration. Right?

JasonWazza · Post Post #523 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:47 pm

I'm not worried, i just think your showing your colors of how your trying to direct the spotlight on ANYONE you can.

Your scum, you have no defense, you've been caught, so what do you do, try to fake it by cutting down the most minimalistic points there are, and then try and shift the spotlight before someone points it out.

fferyllt · Post Post #524 (ISO) » Wed Jul 10, 2013 6:56 pm

In post 523, JasonWazza wrote:I'm not worried, i just think your showing your colors of how your trying to direct the spotlight on ANYONE you can.

Your scum, you have no defense, you've been caught, so what do you do, try to fake it by cutting down the most minimalistic points there are, and then try and shift the spotlight before someone points it out.

My defense is my alignment and it gives me all the resolve I need. Due to a combination of things, including my own posting style and behaviors in this game, I am too much of a liability to be anywhere near LYLO, so I am satisfied to be today's lynch. On my way out, though, I will go after players I think are scummy and see what I can shake loose. The stance you are taking does not allay my concerns about you and I am going to keep at you until I'm satisfied that I have your alignment correct. Right now, I don't care whiether you are scum or not. I care about figuring which you are.

Your counters are all of the "lol u scum" variety. Which is weak. And you know it.