NY 165: A Large Normal (Game Over!)

[Serene]

here's the explanation directly from amished
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p2067031



however i should add that i frequently criticize the people i replace as town (SCREW YOU SCOTT BROSIUS, TONY HAWK, SERIOUSLY?!)

[Serene]

DGB here, Amished tell is a 6-ft high pile of half-decomposed compost.

*Sigh*

Maybe koopa is town.

And this strikes a chord with me:
Rift Adrift, Zdenek, KingCrabd, Shadi1337, Baby Spice, Cephrir, BROseidon, BulbaFenix, StevieT92

There's probably 3 scums in that lot.

Shadi, Stevie, one of BRO or Bulba.

[Serene]

dgb do you see what happens when i am allowed to run around without supervision

[Cephrir]

Frankly, I think scum hopped on in the middle to see where it went, fencesat, or stuck on Stevie

Which explains why your suspicions are from those who hopped on at the beginning, a Stevie voter, and... Stevie?

I don't really care for a lot of those quote + obvious one liners, nor do I especially care for replacing in and acting like everyone who suspected dead townies was being stupid.

How did those posts convince you he might be town DGB? They're not even good.

Also can we stop with the dayvig reaction test already? It's really fucking dumb and needs to be killed with fire.

Oh, I'm not apologizing for scummy behavior of my replacement, I'm saying "If I were any other slot, I could see how you guys could draw the conclusion of

TSO

being SK, but not myself as much"

Besides, I have nothing to apologize for on his front.

What? Who even said anything about TSO being an SK?

[Thirdkoopa]

It's time for this dayphase!

dayvig gambits suck. Has anyone ever been caught by one?

no but i once saw town fake a dayvig gambit and then get counterclaimed by the actual dayvig who proved it by shooting a third player

that third player was bulletproof scum

i want to see this

Vote: Thirdkoopa

I swear I'll catch up, but if anyone thinks it's a better idea to just get a tl;dr (Even though I feel that's pretty anti-town) that would be good for now since we're far after RVS. At least, I hope we are... Right?

"If anyone thinks that this antitown thing is a good idea, then let's do it!"

More like "I was just asking" - I still did read the thread, by the by.

VOTE: Thirdkoopa

Wanted to lynch this clown yesterday, still want to today.

I went through the entire thread practically TWICE and I hardly saw you pushing for TSO, if at all. And clown? More like "Inactive player". By the time I got replaced into this game, Nero was lynched.

Town

Serene
Dramonic

Lean town

KingCrabd
orcinus
Zdenec
DOMO
Ankamius
Calcifer
Cephrir
Metal Sonic
StubbsKVM

Null-Town

Shadi1337
StevieT92
Baby Spice

Scum/Leaning Scum

The Goat
Thirdkoopa (T S O)
Brian Hollywood
BulbaFenix

Want to rethink

BROseidon
TMTOLBTWNTOF

You... I don't...

What?

I'm very very interested in hearing your reasoning on The Goat, Brian, and Bulba. Now.

I like Cephir's reads of 3rdK and TMTLetters, so that makes me feel better about him.

serene is jackshit.

Calcifer's confession:

Not trying to rolefish, but who?

Seriously?

VOTE: thirdkoopa

I'm curious as to who. Can you blame me? I've been missing a lot of stuff.

Koopa's posts are horrible but I would rather let him catch up and see a little bit more before jumping on him.

No matter your faction I appreciate this.

Thirdkoopa's posts are indeed bad but I'm also voting him at least as hard for replacing scum.

NO NO DISGUISE FOR THAT TUNNEL-VISION.

I'm not putting words in your mouth. I looked at your ISO, and that's what I got out of. Now, I'm checking to see if you have anything else you want to add or if I missed something. I ask because if this is correct then I really don't understand your null reads on TMTOLBTWNTOF and Brian Hollywood and your town read on The Goat, since they've also not provided content. The fact that you don't have a read on BulbaF seems odd to me, since you're scum reading Ank for reading the mason's differently, and BulbaFenix's reads on the masons seems incredibly contrived.

You look at my ISO and assume a bunch of things. That's not putting words in my mouth?

I gave you a list and reads on them as far as I remembered. I did not look up anything before writing them down.

Let's see:

Ankamius has pinged me a few times, but I can't really remember what he did.
Baby Spice did some weird voting and displayed some really weird behaviour on day 1.
Stevie well I don't think I need to explain that one.
Thirdkoopa: The "I'm not rolefishing, but who are you talking about" post was exceptionally bad. Because people already pointed it out, I didn't see the need to repeat that.
TMT: can't remember anything he posted. How can I read him other than null? I've been wondering why people are scumreading him, but haven't put in effort to find out why.
Brian Hollywood: same thing.
The Goat: I remember him saying he was townier than Serene. I could not agree more. Maybe I just really liked that post to just want him around. The Doctor on fire thing was golden.
BulbaFenix: One head says yes, the other no. I have to admit I may have skipped some of his posts.

Maybe I should put some effort in reading through some of these guys. But after catching up 20 pages, I did not feel like it. Basically since the whole Serene/Nero theatre, I kind of lost interest and I have a hard time getting back into it. It feels like I'm not really a part of this game, just spectating. That's probably the reason why I'm lacking strong scumreads.

It was one post. COME ON.

Thirdkoopa claims to have been current up to page 50 when he made that post. Issue is, the mason claim was on page 45, and pages 45-50 were pretty much entirely centered around the mason claim discussion. Scum isn't bothering to read the entire thread.

VOTE: thirdkoopa

Will get to the other stuff asked of me/etc in a few.

Lol, what? If I were scum, that'd be even MORE reason to read the thread - To you know, not get lynched. Me missing the mason claim was a fault of laziness and not just searching it up.

^

The Ank wagon is mediocre. Elect Thirdkoopa 2013.

Well, I'm not the biggest fan of the Ank wagon, but I'm gonna go look at some posts for a sec.

Also, hey, hey Cephrir.

Try making an actual case on me. I've said more now, so I'm highly interested. Do it.

[Rift Adrift]

What? Who even said anything about TSO being an SK?

You could argue that I did, though I was thinking more broadly about third party roles in general.

I'm trying to keep in mind that a lot of the shenanigans I've seen in games elsewhere are off the table due the word "Normal" in the thread title.

[Thirdkoopa]

Frankly, I think scum hopped on in the middle to see where it went, fencesat, or stuck on Stevie

Which explains why your suspicions are from those who hopped on at the beginning, a Stevie voter, and... Stevie?

My suspicions are at the end, but I did post a lot. I haven't done a full reads list yet, but I did put a lot of red into the middle. The beginning wagon... I wouldn't be surprised if one of them was that.

I don't really care for a lot of those quote + obvious one liners, nor do I especially care for replacing in and acting like everyone who suspected dead townies was being stupid.

Nah, not everyone was being stupid. I don't mean to come across as a jackass with that. What is stupid, however, is one vote sheeping. Even if those votes are town, they don't offer anything of substantial value. Is it truly wrong to place more attention on these terrible votes? I think not. I know it's Day 1, but seriously? RVS phase was far by over by then.

Looking back, I don't blame you all for lynching Nero regardless. I would have lynched his ass too or made him talk. Probably the latter.

How did those posts convince you he might be town DGB? They're not even good.

DBG? what

What? Who even said anything about TSO being an SK?

...

I need to get more sleep. Well, whatever oddball theories people want to keep on SK, whatever. I just want to get scum.

[Thirdkoopa]

What? Who even said anything about TSO being an SK?

You could argue that I did, though I was thinking more broadly about third party roles in general.

I'm trying to keep in mind that a lot of the shenanigans I've seen in games elsewhere are off the table due the word "Normal" in the thread title.

Hey, it's at least trying.

[Thirdkoopa]

Okay, so I made one part unclear: My suspicions on scum voting Stevie are basically because "lolbus" (if he's scum) because by then they knew Nero would get voted. If it's single faction, it more points to what I think. That, the middle of the wagon, and the fencesitting is getting me off.

Not feeling the Zeta/Beta (That's his name right?) wagon, so here I go.

Vote: Stevie

fuck so many people sharing a hydra as serenes

[Serene]

fuck so many people sharing a hydra as serenes

it's only three of us on this account

[Serene]

i want to see this

it was eaten in the crash

I do remember that it was DGB who faked the day vig
then Pine counterclaimed her and shot at someone else
Nothing happened, Pine convinced us that the person must be BP scum
So, we lynched the guy and then I died that night


ohhh that's right

I was a doc in that game

for some reason whenever I draw doc, I always softclaim so hard that I get killed

[Cephrir]

I said I suspected TSO right as I replaced in, there were reasons for that in my catchup posts, but I dropped it for Day 1 because it obviously wasn't going to happen. I've already said most of the things that have bothered me about you, though I didn't go in depth with this latest batch as I could have.

I'd still call KingCrabd and Shadi the beginning of that wagon. And as far as I can tell, you suspect KingCrabd just because they said "for now"?

And I've certainly said more against your slot than you have against Stevie, but you're allowed to vote off the essentially nothing you mentioned about him?

[Zdenek]

Also where's your avatar from?

Fantastic Mr. Fox.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0432283/

[StevieT92]

Stevie, why no read on me? You liked bulba's attack enough to vote for me, so how come he's in your scum list and I'm omitted altogether?

I had you as town earlier today but I noticed some logical flaws in your argument that bulba nicely took apart. I wanted to pressure you a little and see how you responded. I like your further posts today by the way.

Also @Serene: Well if you didn't act so goddamn scummy I would have you in the "definite townies" pile. Also, how the flying hootenanny do you expect me to have a read of Dram?

[StevieT92]

Okay, so I made one part unclear: My suspicions on scum voting Stevie are basically because "lolbus" (if he's scum) because by then they knew Nero would get voted. If it's single faction, it more points to what I think. That, the middle of the wagon, and the fencesitting is getting me off.

Not feeling the Zeta/Beta (That's his name right?) wagon, so here I go.

Vote: Stevie

fuck so many people sharing a hydra as serenes

oh so you are scum after all. nice.

unvote, vote: thirdkoopa

[StevieT92]

One last thing: somebody asked why I had a scum read on Calcifer. It's because I've played with Mastin before. This is not town mastin.

[Rift Adrift]

One last thing: somebody asked why I had a scum read on Calcifer. It's because I've played with Mastin before. This is not town mastin.

Could you go into a little detail? I've played one game with mastin. He was fairly obvious scum, but it was a micro with a playerlist that knew each other quite well. There wasn't much room for scum to hide. He doesn't look much like the mastin from that game.

[Serene]

One last thing: somebody asked why I had a scum read on Calcifer. It's because I've played with Mastin before. This is not town mastin.

Calcifer is town, never ever lynch Calcifer.

[BROseidon]

oh so you are scum after all. nice.

unvote, vote: thirdkoopa

Do you just OMGUS everyone that scumreads you?

[StubbsKVM]

Furthermore, what's with this SK stuff anyways? Yeah, I can see an SK in this setup, but why Stevie? I mean, I guess he could be. Furthermore, I don't get

me

... Okay, I guess from the standpoint my replacement was playing optimal is something.

I'd lynch Stevie for being scummy, not as an SK suspicion.

I'm finally done with Day 1. Now onto Day 2. I'm probably doing terrible at this, but hey, have to start again somewhere right?

So you're calling me scummy for sticking on Stevie at the time of the Nero wagon.
Yet Nero was town and you call Stevie scum yourself.

Allow me to

And you have no town reads besides the Masons and dead town?

[dramonic]

unvote
vote: Ankamius

This game so long

[Serene]

unvote
vote: Ankamius

This game so long

This crowds hates wagons.

The second some lurkaderp gets a third vote, some clown shows up with an enthusiastic endorsement of his townie-ness.

VERY! IRRITATING!

[DOMO]

Yeah I just ISO'd ank and I'm not into that lynch. The strangest thing he's done was to call me town until he suddenly voted for me without reason, but then he explains his vote and he's right that my FOS at him was basically shit. So I'm not hating his stance on me at that time.

koopa, on the other hand, has pinged a fair few times, and the SK comments that I alreadyc ommented on just don't sit well. So out of the two, it's a clear choice.

vote koopa

[Zdenek]

The pressure comes off BulbaFenix and they vanish. I'm shocked.

[DOMO]

I would still be more than happy with a bulba lynch. They're still scum.