Mini 1481: ETL's Horrific Camping Trip (GAME OVER)

[thenewearth]

i don't understand where your scumread on me comes from

i cant stop being scummy

BEING SCUMMY

SCUMMY

[Saki]

you missed half the playerbase, TNE

[Saki]

inb4 'oh saki scumslipped'

>_>

resisting urge to make a case against TNE for that

[Sakura Hana]

not a scumslip, being scummy =/= being scum. However the more scummy you act the more I lean scum on you.

[thenewearth]

GiF is more of an... "OMG GiF WHAT DAFUQ HAPPENED TO YOU WHILE I WAS GONE?!"

That or GiF is more productive as scum than town.

So he's a null-town-probably-idk

Saki: Everyone else is null because I don't have enough data on them

[thenewearth]

Guys, Being scummy is still a ground for being lynched. IDK if it's town or not. Once you try to hurt town, you are a threat to the town.

Which implies that I get rid of the threats to my town

[Saki]

Guys, Being scummy is still a ground for being lynched. IDK if it's town or not. Once you try to hurt town, you are a threat to the town.

Which implies that I get rid of the threats to my town

are you already justifying the mis-lynch

[Bert]

Actually, screw that I don't have town reads...

Based on Hunter x Hunter mafia. FSnake is town.

Obviously Sakura, Saki, and Bert are not mafia together because all of that interaction is IMPOSSIBLE.
So there's at least 1 town in this triangle. And I'm leaning it's sakura.

Fuzzy is being lurk scum again. That or he changed styles while I was away for 1 month.
We can add fuzzy to scum pool.

Rach is gut town.

Why is Sakura, Saki and I's interactions as mafia together impossible?

The point is to get you scums to die.

Because you 2 are scum.

GiF: How is Saki town? I'm kinda being blinded by all the scummy things saki is doing

"generally" scummy things cannot be described as "scummy" for all players...it's a case-by-case basis. It's like you just said Fsnake is town because of the meta you have on him/her. That you describe yourself as "blinded" and not able to look beyond the tunnel is what gets me..

idk I'm usually good day 1 lynchbait
would make sense to see people want me dead

Saki, you and Rach and I are all good day 1 lynchbait. At least that's what Rach says about herself. She knows it to be true about me too. TNE, you seem to be relying on traditional scumtells on people here. Telling me and Saki that "you two are scum" is not going to get us anywhere, not with the way you are repeating it without further more of building a case.

How do you expect people to listen to you and follow you if you act like this?

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: thenewearth

ill go after sakura later
jesus how can you guys not see 305 as incredibly scummy

[Bert]

Guys, Being scummy is still a ground for being lynched. IDK if it's town or not. Once you try to hurt town, you are a threat to the town.

Which implies that I get rid of the threats to my town

Scummy things does NOT equal a scumtell for every player.

Some players' play may appear to be anti-town sometimes, but does that mean they deserve a policy lynch just for that? It depends. I dislike your tone about this, where you are trying to justify a lynch on whomever it may be...

[thenewearth]

Bert: Triple Cross-bussing D1? IMPOSSIBRUUUU

And obviously you don't know how effective 1st hand meta tells are and how handy your gut is for this game.

It's like the scientific method

1) State the problem (Town or scum?)
2) Hypothesis (Initial Reads) (Answered by gut/meta tells)
3) Experimentation-Observation (Can be answered still by Gut/Meta tells. Though actual evidence helps)
4) Conclusion (lynch Saki and Bert)

[thenewearth]

AND THERE GOES THE OMGUS

[thenewearth]

Guys, Ever noticed how Saki and Bert are always in unison?

And how much their ideas, ideals, and targets are the same?

That's 1 more evidence

[Bert]

GiF is more of an... "OMG GiF WHAT DAFUQ HAPPENED TO YOU WHILE I WAS GONE?!"

That or GiF is more productive as scum than town.

So he's a null-town-probably-idk

Saki: Everyone else is null because I don't have enough data on them

"null-town-probably-idk"??? Really? What data are you lacking... help me out here..

You know what, we are going to band together, Saki, and pressure this scumbag.

Vote: TNE

Guys, Ever noticed how Saki and Bert are always in unison?

And how much their ideas, ideals, and targets are the same?

That's 1 more evidence

We're going to lynch the shit out of you if you try to break up our town core. We have chemistry from 513 Nightless which just ended, and whether you like it or not we are a team here, and so far Saki is pretty town. We have a past. Don't ruin our vibe. They shot Saki the other day as we were going after scumbags, and that game is over now so we can talk about it. We banded together there, we are doing so here. If you are going to use that against us, good luck.

[Saki]

1) State the problem (Town or scum?)

that's your problem right there
you're already assigning me an alignment before you start reading me (wtf logic.)



also idk what Bert is doing I think he's sheeping me
c:

[Saki]

1) State the problem (Town or scum?)

that's your problem right there
you're already assigning me an alignment before you start reading me (wtf logic.)



also idk what Bert is doing I think he's sheeping me
c:

i guess im usally guilty of this so i cant call you out on it

[Bert]

EBWOP: Saki, what do you think of toxic-banana so far? I'm going back and reading all the iso's now. DoctorPepper is pretty town....hold on I'm going to finish reading all the Iso's.

Let me know about timeater too...and please tell me who your null-leaning scum peeps are and I will go look back and tell you what I'm feeling...see if you're feeling what I'm feeling.

[Bert]

No, don't you dare use "hypocrisy" as a scumtell. You sheep me all the time, I sheep you. That is the way it is, and we will not let anyone deter us from this unless one of us feels the other is scum. Until then, we are golden. Kay?

[fuzzybutternut]

I'm lurking? Do tell how.

Also, Hai TNE. You must be scum with Sakura. That's cute.
If you're not scum, however, help me lynch Sakura.
If you are scum, help me lynch Sakura.
If you happen to be third party, help me lynch Sakura.

Are you getting my point here?

[thenewearth]

Hello fuzzy.

May I remind you How you lurked the crap out of that newbie game with wisdom and bacde

AND HOW YOU RESPOND LIKE THIS WHEN YOU'RE CALLED!!!

Now if you're town, stop lurking and we'll call it even
if you're scum, keep lurking and just self vote. I'll do the rest for you

With love,
TNE

[GuyInFreezer]

No TNE your reads are horribly off this game that its not even funny.
Saki is town
Fuzzy is town
I'm starting to lean town on Bert
Same with Sakura too.

[GuyInFreezer]

Btw
UNVOTE:

[DoctorPepper]

Bert, that toxic banana post was newbie play, not scum play. I was cautious as fuck when I was a newbie in my first game.

Aside from that, TNE, your jumping on not scum tells dude. This is how Saki plays. Are they anti town? Kinda, yeah we can agree to that. But calling him scum for saying "I cant sto being scummy" is bordering on misrep territory.

Your meta town read on FSnake is strange because it only came out after you were called out for not having town reads. Which is a valid accusation.

Saki, do you think Sakura and tne are scum buddies?

For that matter, the says triple cross bussing is impossible and later says Bert and Saki are scum together. Theres nonflip to base these two associative tells of each other.

GiF, who is scum then?

[GuyInFreezer]

Originally had Sakura but now that changed.
I'll let you know when more ppl starts talking.

[Bert]

Bert, that toxic banana post was newbie play, not scum play. I was cautious as fuck when I was a newbie in my first game.

OK. Too late at night for me to go back and look, but for some reason I got the impression he came over from EM, which would take away his newb excuse/pass. I remember my first game as well, so yes I can budge on that. I am very wary of this player, nonetheless.

As for TNE, I've been skimming through some of his old games now that I'm in a game with him. Not liking what I see from him/her in this game - his tone seems forced, trying too hard. This is from my gut....TNE you said "I'm underestimating the value gut and meta tells." Gut is telling me that you're scum...reading your past game ISO's leads me to the same conclusion.

Fuzzy's opening is pretty town I think after reading ISO's and the game again. Guy is leaning town, but please keep in mind I haven't seen most of these players as both alignments.

Fsnake *might* be a possible scum partner for TNE, because it's really easy for TNE to just say "yeah, that guy is town because of X game" so soon. I read through FSnake's posts, and I don't see anything stick out to me. Maybe TNE, your read on FSnake is something you can explain more in depth sometime. Because right now it looks like a sketchy read at best, like DoctorPepper so alluded to.

I'm not sure about Sakura's opening. I haven't seen Sakura-scum, first and foremost, and also I think I need longer to get a feel of her rhythm as she proceeds in this game. That's it for me for tonight. Gonna go to bed. Feel free to ask me some Q's. I'm content with my TNE vote. Lates.