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Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:33 am

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In post 2197, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2195, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2191, Wisdom wrote:Not crazy, just scum.
so why are you not voting desp???
You're not reading.
i am.
you want Nat to sort him out...
but he seems so obviously scum to me right now.
and seeing you agreeing that that statement would come from scum, i'm wondering why you're waiting
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Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:35 am

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Because I don't want to lynch from {Desp/serra}. I'll lynch penguin, who is scum regardless of which of Desp/serra is scum. Then Natirasha will tell us which is scum tomorrow.
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Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:36 am

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In post 2186, Desperado wrote:
In post 2183, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2179, Desperado wrote:
In post 2175, Mantisdreamz wrote:i missed that he claimed.
hedging? no, i'm explaining why i was considering it.
Looks to me like you're still leaving the door open for Nats' claim to be bunk. Why else were you suggesting that the breadcrumbs were a bit too obvious and then asking her to claim her role name?
because if he was scum fake-claiming, it'd be interesting to see what claim he would come up with.
anyway - it looks to me, like you're trying to plant suspicion on me now for considering.
mollie - remember IAI
No, I'm accusing you of hedging your read on a player who you shouldn't be hedging on at this stage. You either think Nats' claim is legit or not, and asking her to claim her role name when she had already done so betrays the fact that you aren't reading her very closely...even though you think she might be lying.
i don't think it's either yes or no legit.
i am hesitant to full on believe it.
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Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:37 am

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In post 2201, Wisdom wrote:Because I don't want to lynch from {Desp/serra}. I'll lynch penguin, who is scum regardless of which of Desp/serra is scum. Then Natirasha will tell us which is scum tomorrow.
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Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:43 am

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look. I am done talking with both of you cos we are not getting anywhere.

I can't deal with wis when he is in full blown trolleytracking mode and I cannot deal with you saying that you have never seen hardbussing like that when i know for a fact you have. jesus christ fery hardbussed her entire team and you all had her as town for it when I kept telling you guys that no, she was indeed scum.

^ I was right.

there is no reasoning with either of you.
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Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:43 am

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2.41with eleven alive it will take six to lynch.

*macmollie -
*Huntress -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*FakeGod - Natirasha, Sweet Pertayter [2]
*Mantisdreamz -
*Wisdom - Huntress [1]
*Serrapaladin - Desperado, macmollie, bert [3]
*Desperado - Mantisdreamz [1]
*Bert -
*Natirasha - FakeGod [1]
*penguin_alien - Wisdom [1]

Not Voting [2]: Serrapaladin, penguin_alien


Chapter 2 Ends..Day 2 ends in (expired on 2013-09-05 03:00:00)


(There are no hints/clues in this flavor or in any flavor of the vote counts or death scenes. It's for entertainment purposes.)
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Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:44 am

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mollie, tell me why penguin is town. You say you'll compromise on Huntress, yet nothing about penguin.
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Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:49 am

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In post 2204, macmollie wrote:look. I am done talking with both of you cos we are not getting anywhere.

I can't deal with wis when he is in full blown trolleytracking mode and I cannot deal with you saying that you have never seen hardbussing like that when i know for a fact you have. jesus christ fery hardbussed her entire team and you all had her as town for it when I kept telling you guys that no, she was indeed scum.

^ I was right.

there is no reasoning with either of you.
i have never seen scum pull it off the way that desp is making out wisdom to have pulled it off (or attempted to), with serra. is that more clear?
it reeks of genuine town... and saying otherwise, is just silly.
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Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:51 am

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In post 2206, Wisdom wrote:mollie, tell me why penguin is town. You say you'll compromise on Huntress, yet nothing about penguin.
penguin is unsure. it really is as simple as that. I want to lynch a scumread that other players (including yourself) were scumreading.

what I have gained is a town read on mantis (finally) cos she will misremember stuff, it is a personality trait for her.

we spent 2 hours looking for her car in niagara falls :lol:

literally, no exagerration, 2 HOURS!!!
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Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:51 am

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also just cause you're right on reads in another game, doesn't make you spot on with reads in a current game
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Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:52 am

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In post 2208, macmollie wrote:
In post 2206, Wisdom wrote:mollie, tell me why penguin is town. You say you'll compromise on Huntress, yet nothing about penguin.
penguin is unsure. it really is as simple as that. I want to lynch a scumread that other players (including yourself) were scumreading.

what I have gained is a town read on mantis (finally) cos she will misremember stuff, it is a personality trait for her.

we spent 2 hours looking for her car in niagara falls :lol:

literally, no exagerration, 2 HOURS!!!
lol.
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Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:53 am

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sorry mollie - post 2209, was begrudgingly referring to your scum read on me this game.. and the serra one...
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Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:55 am

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In post 2207, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2204, macmollie wrote:look. I am done talking with both of you cos we are not getting anywhere.

I can't deal with wis when he is in full blown trolleytracking mode and I cannot deal with you saying that you have never seen hardbussing like that when i know for a fact you have. jesus christ fery hardbussed her entire team and you all had her as town for it when I kept telling you guys that no, she was indeed scum.

^ I was right.

there is no reasoning with either of you.
i have never seen scum pull it off the way that desp is making out wisdom to have pulled it off (or attempted to), with serra. is that more clear?
it reeks of genuine town... and saying otherwise, is just silly.
you know wis, desp does not.

the site meta supports people are capable of hardbussing.

and I am telling you YES YOU HAVE SEEN IT BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE STUBBORN AND NOT CONCEDE THE POINT EVEN IF I PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE. COS THAT IS HOW YOU ARE. STUBBORN.
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Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:57 am

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Well if you want to force me into lynching from serra/Desp, I want to lynch Desp. He's scummier than serra for me.
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Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:00 am

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In post 2211, Mantisdreamz wrote:sorry mollie - post 2209, was begrudgingly referring to your scum read on me this game.. and the serra one...
and I was demonstrating the point that you have seen hardbussing. I am town reading wis so I disagree with desp, obviously.

but you are pursuing a line of reasoning for why desp is scum, "his reads are bad! he is scum!" when you were scumreading me at a point when you really shouldn't have been.

desp might be scum. I think sera
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Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:33 am

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In post 2212, macmollie wrote:
In post 2207, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2204, macmollie wrote:look. I am done talking with both of you cos we are not getting anywhere.

I can't deal with wis when he is in full blown trolleytracking mode and I cannot deal with you saying that you have never seen hardbussing like that when i know for a fact you have. jesus christ fery hardbussed her entire team and you all had her as town for it when I kept telling you guys that no, she was indeed scum.

^ I was right.

there is no reasoning with either of you.
i have never seen scum pull it off the way that desp is making out wisdom to have pulled it off (or attempted to), with serra. is that more clear?
it reeks of genuine town... and saying otherwise, is just silly.
you know wis, desp does not.

the site meta supports people are capable of hardbussing.

and I am telling you YES YOU HAVE SEEN IT BUT I KNOW THAT YOU WILL BE STUBBORN AND NOT CONCEDE THE POINT EVEN IF I PROVIDE EVIDENCE THAT YOU HAVE. COS THAT IS HOW YOU ARE. STUBBORN.
i'm saying that i have not seen scum hardbus like what desp thinks wisdom is doing!!!!!! sure, there's always a chance it could be.... but come on. if everyone was that cautious ("oh this has been done as scum before"), no one would ever have any town reads.
even if you take that out of the equation with desp... there's the fact that his others reads (i think) are no good. there's the fact that he hasn't made mention of certain people, that we have been considering scum (peng, huntress). other things too.


wisdom - just to explain this
In post 2203, Mantisdreamz wrote:
In post 2201, Wisdom wrote:Because I don't want to lynch from {Desp/serra}. I'll lynch penguin, who is scum regardless of which of Desp/serra is scum. Then Natirasha will tell us which is scum tomorrow.
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i'm not as certain of peng-scum as desp. i still think there's a good chance... but only because i brought Nats into the picture, with the suspiciously large breadcrumbs. i still think huntress is scum though.
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Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:36 am

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Nah, Natirasha is town. He made me paranoid for a while too, but he's town.
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Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:38 am

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But lol at everyone not being sure about penguin now.
I can predict the future sometimes...
In post 1770, Wisdom wrote:I bet if we switched back to penguin people would start saying that she is town
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Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:40 am

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In post 2215, Mantisdreamz wrote:i'm saying that i have not seen scum hardbus like what desp thinks wisdom is doing!!!!!! sure, there's always a chance it could be.... but come on. if everyone was that cautious ("oh this has been done as scum before"), no one would ever have any town reads.
This isn't even close to what I'm saying, and ignores the fact that I've stated just a page ago that I don't care about associative tells without flips. It also ignores that I
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reading Wisdom as town when he was championing Serra's lynch and that my read changed after he dropped his crusade against her.
even if you take that out of the equation with desp... there's the fact that his others reads (i think) are no good. there's the fact that he hasn't made mention of certain people, that we have been considering scum (peng, huntress). other things too.
Which reads aren't good and why does having bad reads make me scum?

Do you think only scum don't mention other players? What if I said Huntress hasn't said anything interesting enough for me to respond to?

What other things?
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Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:41 am

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In post 2216, Wisdom wrote:Nah, Natirasha is town. He made me paranoid for a while too, but he's town.
and that is my only issue... or, why i could potentially move penguin out of the scum list. is if nats was scum. i wouldn't be moving huntress or desp out of it.
but ok.
maybe huntress is the better vote for today?
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Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:43 am

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In post 2218, Desperado wrote:
In post 2215, Mantisdreamz wrote:i'm saying that i have not seen scum hardbus like what desp thinks wisdom is doing!!!!!! sure, there's always a chance it could be.... but come on. if everyone was that cautious ("oh this has been done as scum before"), no one would ever have any town reads.
This isn't even close to what I'm saying, and ignores the fact that I've stated just a page ago that I don't care about associative tells without flips. It also ignores that I
was
reading Wisdom as town when he was championing Serra's lynch and that my read changed after he dropped his crusade against her.
even if you take that out of the equation with desp... there's the fact that his others reads (i think) are no good. there's the fact that he hasn't made mention of certain people, that we have been considering scum (peng, huntress). other things too.
Which reads aren't good and why does having bad reads make me scum?

Do you think only scum don't mention other players? What if I said Huntress hasn't said anything interesting enough for me to respond to?

What other things?
"crusade" :giggle:

i'll respond after work
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Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:49 am

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In post 2219, Mantisdreamz wrote: maybe huntress is the better vote for today?
In post 2188, Wisdom wrote:I prefer penguin much more than Huntress - slimer at least had some small towntells like his wanting to analyze the Lynx nightkill. penguin has had nothing.
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Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:53 am

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In post 2215, Mantisdreamz wrote:i'm saying that i have not seen scum hardbus like what desp thinks wisdom is doing!!!!!! sure, there's always a chance it could be.... but come on. if everyone was that cautious ("oh this has been done as scum before"), no one would ever have any town reads.
even if you take that out of the equation with desp... there's the fact that his others reads (i think) are no good. there's the fact that he hasn't made mention of certain people, that we have been considering scum (peng, huntress). other things too.
and I lost my town read. it was nice while I had it.

in baldur ksen and praying both hardbussed the
fuck out of me
which is why I told everyone to fuck off and self-voted. I was townread after that and ksen was lynched instead while praying was vigged. fery hardbussed her scummates but she was in the uncomfortable position of dealing with people's expectations of her nabbing scum every single time.

you have seen hardbussing before. I think wis is town and desp is wrong. what other reads of desp's do you think are no good? cos you are only pursuing this 1 avenue at this point. if you think desp is scum then you will have to push it for other reasons cos the ones you are providing are false as I have proven.
i'm not as certain of peng-scum as desp.
lol. where did desp say that penny was for sure scum? and if you think he is scum why would you be looking at his reads when you think they are shit? like that does not even begin to make sense.
i still think there's a good chance... but only because i brought Nats into the picture, with the suspiciously large breadcrumbs. i still think huntress is scum though.
is that a hedge I smell?
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Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:55 am

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Mollie, mantis meant she is more sure that I am scum than that Penguin is scum.

She's definitely hedging on Nat though.
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Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:59 am

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mantis is scum too guyz. fairly certain of it.

eta: okay desp. I will read it again but I think she is scum.

I am telling you she has seen hardbussing before but she is saying that she has not so she has a reason to townread wis.
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