Mini 1482: Castle - A Mafia Murder So Vile (GAME OVER)

[Malakittens]

3.03

with nine alive it will take five to lynch.

*waynegg -
*Sweet Pertayter -
*FakeGod -
*Mantisdreamz - Desperado, FakeGod [2]
*Serrapaladin -
*Desperado - Natirasha, Mantisdreamz [2]
*Bert -
*Natirasha -
*penguin_alien -

Not Voting [5]: penguin_alien, bert, Sweet Pertayter, waynegg, Serrapaladin

Chapter 3 Ends..

Day 3 ends in (expired on 2013-09-19 12:55:00)

[Desperado]

@ Serra: Because Huntress was now occupying that slot and it played into my decision to hammer them.

[Mantisdreamz]

Desp, Serra, FakeGod is the scum team.

I understand that a "not mafia" result does not imply town, but with the SK dead, I figure that this game probably doesn't have 5 anti-town roles. It could though.

@Serra: To get a lynch on someone who's death doesn't reveal any setup info! Killing me or Potato confirms my claim. Bert is too town, penguin is just a lurker. Waynegg...I'm not too sure.

Well, if mantis flips town, we lynch desp and know that we can trust nati. I seriously don't see how that would be a good scum tactic though.

No. We kill me or Desp today. Then you can choose to believe me or Desp. This whole idea suggests scum to me.

no, we kill me or Desp today. i have no night actions

[Natirasha]

Serra, Desp would claim tracker today because he's the prime suspect from yesterday. By claiming a power role like tracker, he can postpone his lynch a day, get a free lynch, and possibly even discredit me.

I find it suspicious that he's a Tracker. Has he done any crumbing at all?

[Desperado]

Not leaving crumbs isn't suspicious.

[Desperado]

Not leaving crumbs isn't suspicious.

[Mantisdreamz]

Also this claim does not pass the smell test

How doesn't it?

because you've been obvious scum all day yesterday!

this is partially amusing Desp.

[Natirasha]

Not leaving crumbs isn't suspicious.

It does, however, lend credence to claims.

[waynegg]

wayne, if Desp is scum, he just killed himself with that claim.

Why would he do that? Especially since according to you, he wasn't in really in danger of getting lynched for d1 or d2.

Mantis lynch is the correct lynch for today.

I've already answered this twice. This is the last time and I'll make it big and bold so you can't miss it this time.

BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THE GAME TO MYLO WITH NO FLIPPED SCUM. FROM THERE IT'S STATISTICALLY HIGHLY IMPROBABLE FOR TOWN TO WIN. THE PROPER QUESTION IS WHY WOULDN'T HE. IT HAS ALL THE SCUMOTIVATION IN THE WORLD TO DO SO.

VOTE: Desparado

If everyone is hellbent on ending this day after just 2 hours or so of conversation, this is the right vote

[Mantisdreamz]

i'll put my reads out after work tonight.

i still don't know if i agree with Wisdom on fakegod or serra being scum. mollie/waynegg is town. desp & peng - scum. but not really sure on the 3rd.
will do some re-reading later.

[Mantisdreamz]

don't lynch just too soon though guys, cause we still need discussion

[Desperado]

Not leaving crumbs isn't suspicious.

It does, however, lend credence to claims.

No it doesn't. Scum are just as capable of crumbing as town.

Why are you so desperate for towncred?

[Desperado]

wayne, if Desp is scum, he just killed himself with that claim.

Why would he do that? Especially since according to you, he wasn't in really in danger of getting lynched for d1 or d2.

Mantis lynch is the correct lynch for today.

I've already answered this twice. This is the last time and I'll make it big and bold so you can't miss it this time.

BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THE GAME TO MYLO WITH NO FLIPPED SCUM. FROM THERE IT'S STATISTICALLY HIGHLY IMPROBABLE FOR TOWN TO WIN. THE PROPER QUESTION IS WHY WOULDN'T HE. IT HAS ALL THE SCUMOTIVATION IN THE WORLD TO DO SO.

VOTE: Desparado

If everyone is hellbent on ending this day after just 2 hours or so of conversation, this is the right vote

Do you not see any town motivation for what I'm doing?

[serrapaladin]

Can we do a quick swap to mantis as today's lynch?

Fucking...I'm not letting a no lynch happen here. I'm not home yet(another hour will suffice), but I am watching the thread. VOTE: mantis. We have a little time still, come on guys.

I do have a problem with a Nati/Mantis team given this...

[Natirasha]

Not leaving crumbs isn't suspicious.

It does, however, lend credence to claims.

No it doesn't. Scum are just as capable of crumbing as town.

Why are you so desperate for towncred?

Why do you think I'm desperate for towncred?

[FakeGod]

wayne, if Desp is scum, he just killed himself with that claim.

Why would he do that? Especially since according to you, he wasn't in really in danger of getting lynched for d1 or d2.

Mantis lynch is the correct lynch for today.

I've already answered this twice. This is the last time and I'll make it big and bold so you can't miss it this time.

BECAUSE IT WOULD TAKE THE GAME TO MYLO WITH NO FLIPPED SCUM. FROM THERE IT'S STATISTICALLY HIGHLY IMPROBABLE FOR TOWN TO WIN. THE PROPER QUESTION IS WHY WOULDN'T HE. IT HAS ALL THE SCUMOTIVATION IN THE WORLD TO DO SO.

If mantis flips town, then desp gets lynched tomorrow and flip scum.

Then, town would be in MyLo with a flipped scum.

Reply?

[serrapaladin]

Nati, if desp is scum, do you think he came up with leaving you alive and claim a guilty?

[Desperado]

Given what she did next I have no idea why you think that can't be distancing

@ Nat: You're basically saying "crumbing = town, no crumbing = scum" when you crumbed and I didn't. It isn't even subtle.

[serrapaladin]

I don't think that was the time to distance, to be honest.

[serrapaladin]

@Nati: how much do you bus as scum?

[Mantisdreamz]

Can we do a quick swap to mantis as today's lynch?

Fucking...I'm not letting a no lynch happen here. I'm not home yet(another hour will suffice), but I am watching the thread. VOTE: mantis. We have a little time still, come on guys.

I do have a problem with a Nati/Mantis team given this...

i have faith in you serra!

[waynegg]

My big deal with Desp's tracker claim is this

"The Tracker is an informative role that can target a player at Night and learn who, if anybody, that player targeted the same night (but not the action the player performed).
Trackers have been seen as each alignment.
This version of Tracker, and only this version of Tracker, is considered Normal on mafiascum.net."

He wouldn't know what night action Mantis took, only who he hypothetically targeted. Wisdom was such a turd, I'm sure he would have had all kinds of targeting N2. The way Desp came in with the go!go!go! Kind of tone reeks of scum. That's undeniable.

[Bert]

Wait how many scum should be with an SK

This isn't a normal game...

[serrapaladin]

Then stop sounding so fake, mantis! :/

@wayne: mantis claimed not to have a night-action. Stop being stupid.

[Bert]

Waynegg, mantis claimed neighbor though

Do neighbors get extra abilities