N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[theloveofneroandmollie]

because?

[Rail Tracer]

i don't think your posts look town. i don't like your interactions with peacebringer.

[BBmolla]

wait, you actually think sleepykrew is scum? i didn't know there were serious votes.

Yep

[Nero Cain]

i don't think your posts look town. i don't like your interactions with peacebringer.

but you don't know me!!!! (yes, I'm mocking PB)

Can you go more into detail?

[Nero Cain]

i don't think your posts look town. i don't like your interactions with peacebringer.

but you don't know me!!!! (yes, I'm mocking PB)

Can you go more into detail?

[Rail Tracer]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

Yep

y?

[BBmolla]

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[theloveofneroandmollie]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

huh

since when did scumhunting become an "overreaction".

feeble and sad push from your slot may possibly be town.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

not really. your overreactions to pb (who i'm currently reading as town, btw) don't read as genuine.

[Rail Tracer]

since when did scumhunting become an "overreaction".

you're not actually "scum hunting". you're just calling what you're doing "scum hunting".

feeble and sad push from your slot may possibly be town.

i feel honoured.

[DeasVail]

I have quite a significant scumread on PeaceBringer now.

At first, PeaceBringer is wondering why people are voting for SleepyKrew. It is quite strongly suggested by his posts that he didn't understand why himself. However, he then decides that a negative utility claim needs pressure, and it's quite clear that this belief has been influenced by the votes of others. If he already believed before this game that negative utility claims need pressure, than he would have understood the pressure on SleepyKrew without needing to ask for it. So, I am pretty sure that he didn't. Then, when one of the original SleepyKrew voters reveals that there is actually no good reason to make SleepyKrew claim, PeaceBringer stands strong in his belief that negative utility claims need pressure.

This was very likely not a belief of his before, so how did it become so strong? I think that this is because he was scum under the impression that this is what the townies were doing (when it wasn't) and after having justified his vote on the SleepyKrew wagon in such a way, he couldn't suddenly decide as scum that negative utility claims don't need pressure after all.

Neroandmollie is not a bad vote either.

[Rail Tracer]

I think that this is because he was scum under the impression that this is what the townies were doing

i'm reading it as a playstyle thing more than an alignment thing. and when i read it this way, his posts make sense as town (just misguided).

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Neroandmollie is not a bad vote either.

*blinks*

I think I got mixed up and joined a newbie game.

[dopog]

Morning all; have some scumreads : )

~ PeaceBringer; this is pretty gut, but couple things miffed me; the lack of vote and many of his posts (e.g. #41) feeling kind of forced and contrived. (and p-edit: I think DeasVail kind of hits it up good)

@PeaceBringer; what's your actual read on SleepyKrew?

~ Rail Tracer; #72 was pretty lame

wait, you actually think sleepykrew is scum? i didn't know there were serious votes.

Not sure; "Fake pushing" for an "rvs" vote and when he's at like L-3/4 saying "I didn't know there were serious votes" sounds hecka artificial. Overly "suprised" that BB (maybe others) are reading him as scum. I read this and thought wowscumsome. I legit cannot express how contrived + scummy it feels.

This is by far the stronger read to me so;

unvote pb
vote Rail Tracer

byes

[DeasVail]

I think that this is because he was scum under the impression that this is what the townies were doing

i'm reading it as a playstyle thing more than an alignment thing. and when i read it this way, his posts make sense as town (just misguided).

Hmm, I'm worried you may be right about that, but I can't really get over how he continued to stand by SKrew needing to be pressured after it was revealed that no one was really interested in that.

Neroandmollie is not a bad vote either.

*blinks*

I think I got mixed up and joined a newbie game.

[DeasVail]

Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?

[Rail Tracer]

Overly "suprised" that BB (maybe others) are reading him as scum.

i am surprised

I legit cannot express how contrived + scummy it feels.

describe why you think it's scummy

also if you think pb is scum, and far more people have expressed a similar suspicion, why are you unvoting him for me?

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I can't really get over how he continued to stand by SKrew needing to be pressured after it was revealed that no one was really interested in that.

i think this has to do with his conception of what someone claiming a negative utility role means about their alignment.

[theloveofneroandmollie]

Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?

the mod told us we were town.

+

we are attacking your biggest scumread so its really nonsensical that you'd have scumreads on us both. Its maybe some potential hedging on your part.

Explain why you even have a scum read on us.

[Rail Tracer]

we are attacking your biggest scumread so its really nonsensical that you'd have scumreads on us both.

why is this nonsensical?

serious question

[theloveofneroandmollie]

we are attacking your biggest scumread so its really nonsensical that you'd have scumreads on us both.

why is this nonsensical?

serious question

'cause we are town/there's absolutely no ratinal reason to suspect us as scum.

[Rail Tracer]

if pb does something super undeniably town in his next post, who would you then vote and why?

[DeasVail]

Neroandmollie, what is so town about you so far?

the mod told us we were town.

+

we are attacking your biggest scumread so its really nonsensical that you'd have scumreads on us both. Its maybe some potential hedging on your part.

Explain why you even have a scum read on us.

So, you yourself can't even think of a good reason to read you as town, but at the mention of you not being a bad vote, you accuse me of being a newbie?

Before, I thought that your scumhunting was superficial and that you didn't really look very town. Now, I think that you're faking a 'town' attitude because for some reason you think it's ridiculous for anyone to not think you're town when you don't even know why they should.

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Rail Tracer, but he didn't think anything of SKrew claiming it when he first read it, which is where my problem lies.

[Rail Tracer]

Rail Tracer, but he didn't think anything of SKrew claiming it when he first read it, which is where my problem lies.

this doesn't particularly bother me. i read it as him not really paying much attention to it when it first happened, seeing the votes on him, trying to figure out why, then going back and re-evaluating sleepykrew's posts.

i can see where you're coming from, kinda, but i'm not reading it the same way

[theloveofneroandmollie]

feeble and sad push from your slot may possibly be town.

i feel honoured.

I feel honoured that you feel honoured.

if pb does something super undeniably town in his next post, who would you then vote and why?

I would push deasguy for #91.

but dogop or w/e's 89# is pretty bad like terribad.

scumreads pb cos contrivance + gut but votes you cos you are the stronger scumread when his only case on you is contrivance. why ignore the gut?