Open 521: Jungle Republic (Alright. We'll call it a draw)

[thenewearth]

Finally you agree with me sister <3

-Aegina

[Yggdra Union]

Wow I really need some sleep...

[1baldeagle1]

Even if there were 12 people in the game, it's the same thing.

You start off with 12 people which is a 7 town vs 5 scum setup.
2 town is dead. So, it's 5:5. But if you were to be town, it would really be 4:5. So you need 4 town reads then PoE to get the 5 scum.

If you were scum,
It's 5:5. You know you are scum so you can just make it 5:4. The slip here was Yggdra saying that she/he needed 5 town reads in order to PoE. That's a slip because you basically called yourself scum by saying that because there would be 4 other town if you were town.

I wanted to explain this more into depth on how it was a slip, mathematically, since Yggdra didn't get the slip.

Except for that I assumed 13, not 12.

Anyway question for you.

If you were scum, who do you want for teammates and why?
(And no, this is not a random question.)

Also I'm gonna be out of states and prob won't post much til Sunday.

When I come back at Sunday, we (everyone) can play a little game.

Remember that 4 townreads I have, well what I'm gonna do is make a town "case" and you guys can discuss and yay/ney them.



I'm not gonna out the purpose of this "game" until I'm done though.

Also, How many days do we have left?

-Luciana

If I was scum, I would probably want to be buddies with people that I'm familiar with. People like TiP, BOOM (I know one of the heads) and elle.

The whole scumslip thing?

Here, let me summarize that.

L: sweet I have 4 townreads and I need 1 more.
A: um there's only 5 town left. Is that a scumslip?
B: hell yeah. But I wanna park my vote to Om for now. (Translation: should I jump on that? It might look too opportunistic if I jump now.)
L: uh what the hell are you talking about? ...oh. I thought this was 13p game, not 12p.. my bad.
K: what's the difference?
B: none. *votes* (translation: oh hey someone else is attacking too! Time to jump!)
B: even if you assume 12p... (translation: I need to look town now! Time for some number talk!)
-note: I assumed 13p, not 12p.-

I'm paranoid to people who WK so much, it costed the game that I recently completed, so I don't like people to WK, so I wanted to keep my vote on Om.

Also, why do you keep saying that "I assumed 13p, guys" when none of us called you out for lying or anything like that? The funny thing is, I'm calling you a liar right now. We have been playing this for, oh, maybe a month now and you don't know how many people are in the game? Someone with a town mindset would have checked to make sure that they had the correct number of town reads in order to do PoE on the remaining scum.

Oh, what are the translations, by the way? Your thought or what?

[Alduskkel]

The whole scumslip thing?

Here, let me summarize that.

L: sweet I have 4 townreads and I need 1 more.
A: um there's only 5 town left. Is that a scumslip?
B: hell yeah. But I wanna park my vote to Om for now. (Translation: should I jump on that? It might look too opportunistic if I jump now.)
L: uh what the hell are you talking about? ...oh. I thought this was 13p game, not 12p.. my bad.
K: what's the difference?
B: none. *votes* (translation: oh hey someone else is attacking too! Time to jump!)
B: even if you assume 12p... (translation: I need to look town now! Time for some number talk!)
-note: I assumed 13p, not 12p.-

Agreed, actually. I have no idea what happened between 503 and 507 to make baldeagle go from Om to Yggdra other than Krazy apparently expressing suspicion of Yggdra.

Vote: baldeagle

Don't buy the other parts of the case, but this definitely stinks of opportunism.

[theaceofspades]

ill buy that.

VOTE: baldeagle

[Yggdra Union]

Also, why do you keep saying that "I assumed 13p, guys" when none of us called you out for lying or anything like that? The funny thing is, I'm calling you a liar right now. We have been playing this for, oh, maybe a month now and you don't know how many people are in the game? Someone with a town mindset would have checked to make sure that they had the correct number of town reads in order to do PoE on the remaining scum.

Because krazy kept asking for clarification and you were talking of us assuming 12p.

Also what you're describing is more of a scum mindset because town don't rly care about those minor details because they just want to lynch scum. Scum, in the other hand, want to pay extra attention to those stuff because they don't want to slip in the first place. That's why those so called "slips and tells" ends up with more town lynch than a scum lynch.
/IC rant

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Don't buy the other parts of the case, but this definitely stinks of opportunism.

What other parts of the case?

That was me presenting a mini-case on baldeagle disguised as an answer to krazy because I enjoy myself a humor like that.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

If I was scum, I would probably want to be buddies with people that I'm familiar with. People like TiP, BOOM (I know one of the heads) and elle.

Noted. Unfortunately, this kind of answer is null.

-Luciana

[Alduskkel]

What I meant by "other parts of the case" was TIP saying that baldeagle was lying about TIP's meta and Boom saying baldeagle was being hypocritical.

If I was scum, I would probably want to be buddies with people that I'm familiar with. People like TiP, BOOM (I know one of the heads) and elle.

Noted. Unfortunately, this kind of answer is null.

-Luciana

What were you looking for?

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Side note, sometimes I mistake 12p games for 13p games myself simply because 13p is so much more common these days.

[Yggdra Union]

Not answering because I plan to use it again.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Side note, sometimes I mistake 12p games for 13p games myself simply because 13p is so much more common these days.

We are the mini player! Hear us roar!

-Luciana

[Alduskkel]

Not answering because I plan to use it again.

-Luciana

In this game?

[Yggdra Union]

Yes.

-Luciana

[TheIrishPope]

Teehee hydra slip

[KrazyEyeKilla7]

Waiting for the count. I'm really back and forth with this Eagle / Yggdra battle. Eagle is scummier ATM and my previous suspicions were just reinforced with this whole topic against Eagle's flip flopping.

[1baldeagle1]

Yggdra, sorry, but I don't really believe the whole "I assumed 13p" thing because you could be scum trying to cover your slip. We have been playing this for awhile and you don't know how many people are playing? It just doesn't sound right to me.

Oh, I don't think you answered my question about the whole translation thing.

[Yggdra Union]

Why sorry?
If you don't believe me, that's it.

Also if it wasn't obvious enough to you, the translation part is a case.

-Luciana

[1baldeagle1]

Yeah, that's it, I don't believe you.

Translation part is the part where you put words in my mouth?

[Yggdra Union]

What words in your mouth?

All I did was explaining how your post was scum-motivated.

-Luciana

[1baldeagle1]

The whole translation thing is basically throwing thoughts in my head because that's not what I was thinking at all.

[Yggdra Union]

Your posts say otherwise.

You changed your stance from Om to me within grand total of, like, 4 posts gap.

Also the fact that you jumped on it as "lolscumslip" without even thinking of town PoV even once proves even more that your jump is opportunistic.

There's a huge difference between logic and misrep.

-Luciana

[Yggdra Union]

Also your post about "even though you assume 12p..." thing?
Now THAT is called putting words in my mouth because you used a blatantly false information (I said I assumed 13p but your "number case" says that I assumed 12p and made that "slip" which would put me in worse situation.) to accuse me of "scumslipping".

Also change the word "logic" from last post to "deduction."

-Luciana

[1baldeagle1]

I did see the slip from a town PoV, I showed you, because you didn't seem to understand your slip.

Also, it's just my opinion but, scumslips speak louder than WKing. I didn't really like your post about "Oh, I assumed 13p" so that's why I voted.

P-Edit: I meant 12p, I was showing how you would normally think when there's 12 players. I mean, I'm not an idiot, I know 7+5=12.

[Yggdra Union]

But the thing is, I was thinking a 13p, so your whole point of explaining 12p thing is moot.

[Yggdra Union]

Also what I meant by town PoV, I meant "Yggdra-town PoV."