Ok, so all the purple is the same reason ~ he's been apathetic. Problem with that is in all his recent games I've read he's been apathetic.In post 4498, Ghostlin wrote:
*He's been underwhelming all game. By Day 4, I expect some kind of push. In Xenosaga he was all over the place. Here..he makes a few points here or there, but he's not steering, nor is he leading from anywhere. This isn't Nacho--at least not Town Nacho.
*There are some who have said 'give Nacho time and he'll pick up'. It's Day 4. If he's not producing now (and he's not) he's not gonna.
*This one's difficult to follow, but here goes:Nacho, quite publicly, caught me as scum because I can't fake logical Town thought well. He's hedged his bets (particularly with his interactions with Mastin, but even how he's treated people like me who he's said earlier he wanted to 'interact more with' and really hasn't) and he's produced low enough content to kinda squeak by.
*The AJ/BRO/Des case is an excellent example of all the above. Nacho can make a weak non-committal push without a case. As Town, even lazy Town, Nacho has no reason not to release the case. As scum, he has reason to hold off to see if his wagon will dissolve and we'll bite. I'm 90% sure he's bussing one buddy there for cred, and 75% sure sure he's bussing both for cred. In fact, if scum don't cross bus they'll die.
*Nacho has made the argument that he's done nothing that would indicate he was scum. The reverse is painfully also true. There's nothing to indicate that Nacho's town, either. It's a hollow and somewhat misleading argument by someone who I expected to be higher key and give a shit, and has promised to give a shit multiple days now.
*This is not a reason why I think Nacho is scum. However, a number of people if you analyze the night kills knew Nacho's playstyle. The remaining two with history I know about are myself and Andrius. Now, my problem with this 'argument', is it leads to an orgy of evidence wifomic problem. (Look up 'orgy of evidence' in TVTropes). Scum could be killing people with a history with Nacho to make us fucking look there, but Nacho's still a good lynch DESPITE that. Or even BECAUSE of it.
The last one is meta (which is still pretty much the apathetic thing), and I'll give that a lot of people are 100% sold on meta. I'm not one of those because what do you do when someone's playstyle changes drastically? And then an orgy of evidence usually indicates just the opposite of what that evidence seems to point to.
Iffy meta and apathy given his recent games aren't enough to sway me from the town read virtually all of his posts on Aug 20th, among others, have firmly planted in my mind.
The bold really needs to be explained though...
I've had Andy town since I started reading D1 (though his first wall glows with the same glow as his first in LotR), but I'm not going to back down from a challenge. If he's town and wants to take another townie down with him, let it be on his head.In post 4499, Ghostlin wrote:Girls, girls. You're both fucking pretty.In post 4491, waynegg wrote:That would be a waste if you're town. But it kinda sounds like a challenge. Always like a challenge. Tell you what...if you get run up to L-1 I'll call your bluff.
Seriously, neither of you are scum, and it's a fucking waste either way. Andy, you know Wayne's into fringe theory from the 'saga game. Wayne, Andrius isn't scum. Fuck, I'm not scum. Run me up to L-1, and I guarantee no one in this town will fucking lynch me.
Now a legit reason from this game to see some scum in him (aside from his first wall since as I said I don't weigh meta heavily). He claims to have a veng role that can kill only town while being town. I can see that. What I can't see is him going on with the 'lynch me!' campaign knowing that if he's telling the truth, scum would never hammer because it would out them. That means ONLY town would risk lynching him if they think he's lying. That leads into motivation.
From a town mindset, where's the motivation to continue his self push? Why would he be pushing to take a town with him if he's really town? It's only his recent stuff that's seemed scummy enough for me to hammer if he gets to L-1 and call his bluff.
