Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)

artemiskitty · Post Post #900 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:49 pm

In post 899, Natirasha wrote:Ooh, the girls are talking about me again! God, if only I was still in High School!

are you blushing again??

artemiskitty · Post Post #901 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:52 pm

SOS, you even had Saki, yourself --- as town.

Natirasha · Post Post #902 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:55 pm

In post 900, artemiskitty wrote:
In post 899, Natirasha wrote:Ooh, the girls are talking about me again! God, if only I was still in High School!
are you blushing again??

...maybe.

artemiskitty · Post Post #903 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 5:59 pm

ya also SOS - fuz's ISO, i just can't see as anything other than town
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p5291405
no way that is scum

ProHawk · Post Post #904 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:10 pm

Taking a look and analyzing Brian's ISO:

His agreeable stance has already been touched on. What I didn't understand was... why vote HP when you originally liked his post, was persuaded by one post to change your mind about said post,

and then

go do the research to see if it was legit? Something seems backward here. And then come back to try and attack/discredit him using that research (which would explain the scum-motivation in reading the game).

Side note, he makes it a point that everyone knows he is working hard on looking into HP.

In post 39, Brian Skies wrote:I'll read through that link later.

In post 76, Brian Skies wrote:As per the Humble Poirot link, I'm still reading it. I've read up to page 23. Although, if there's anything I don't like at this point,
it's the massive wall-to-wall posting
. Not necessarily the hydra itself.

Ugh! More reading to do...

In post 139, Brian Skies wrote:And yes, I actually finished reading
that painful wall-to-wall posting you call a game
on Tuesday night.

In post 146, Brian Skies wrote: I read
that monstrosity (although I'm sure it's nothing compared to other games)
.
It gave me a headache
. I want to discuss it. Also, HP has pretty much confirmed his stance against hydras. I want to know if it is warranted or if he's just directing the attention towards them.

I don't see town motivation in bringing this to the forefront of many posts, especially #76 which was unsolicited. Its over the top.

Taking a look at the Dan wagon/trajectory:

#214 - Dan is a top 4 town-read.
Rail attacks Dan for a while. Rebel votes Dan. Rail votes Dan.
#320 - Dan is now a "biased" null-read.
Artemis and SoS mention not liking Dan's vote on Brian.
#390 - Brian votes Dan. "hung up on rather innocuous details".

Brian was the third on the wagon, while having the negativity from Artemis and SoS to back up his vote. His trajectory was very cautious until others were on board. His vote and push was safe. Scum-Safe.

Natirasha · Post Post #905 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:18 pm

What do you think of the other four lynch candidates, ProHawk(ns, Titus, me, Mario-slot)?

Brian Skies · Post Post #906 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:23 pm

@ProHawk: Let me ask you a question. If you think someone is misrepping you and refuses to even acknowledge they could be misinterpreting you, and then pushes for a lynch against you with that misrep when other events are happening during the game, do you think it is scum-motivated or town-motivated?

Also, I don't see anything wrong with my vote. I thought votes could also be used to pressure.

ProHawk · Post Post #907 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:27 pm

Why isn't Brian a lynch candidate?

I don't like NS, he feels town to me and the Titus vs NS vendetta feels like town v town.

I haven't really done much at looking into you Nati, but nothing Saki did screamed scum to me, and nothing is standing out as scum from the things you have posted. Mario is being replaced and will be re-evaluated later in the day.

P-EDIT: Its a lot safer for scum to play how you are playing (being agreeable, pushing easy lynches (ones with support behind them), than how Dan was playing. But your question is a bit strange because Dan flipped town, so obviously what he did was not scum-motivated?

artemiskitty · Post Post #908 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:27 pm

prohawk, you also know that brian is a newish player, ,right?

ProHawk · Post Post #909 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:28 pm

I don't get your point.

artemiskitty · Post Post #910 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:29 pm

actually... pro hawk might be scum

artemiskitty · Post Post #911 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:30 pm

NS, Cephir and Prohawk

artemiskitty · Post Post #912 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:31 pm

prohawk:

In post 905, Natirasha wrote:What do you think of the other four lynch candidates, ProHawk(ns, Titus, me, Mario-slot)?

Natirasha · Post Post #913 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:32 pm

I never said Brian wasn't on the table, but your position on him was clear so I was probing for the other four.

PEdit: if were throwing out scum teams, ns/Brian/Mario is my bet.

ProHawk · Post Post #914 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:35 pm

Already answered Artemis.

artemiskitty · Post Post #915 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:36 pm

In post 913, Natirasha wrote:I never said Brian wasn't on the table, but your position on him was clear so I was probing for the other four.

PEdit: if were throwing out scum teams, ns/Brian/Mario is my bet.

why brian and mario, again though?

im sorry if you've already clearly stated. but i don't *think* you have

ProHawk · Post Post #916 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:40 pm

Art, why do you think Brian is town?

artemiskitty · Post Post #917 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:41 pm

votes can be used to pressure..

Natirasha · Post Post #918 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:41 pm

Mario because he's been useless. This could change if his replacement is useful.

Brian because POE, sadly. Its between ProHawk, Titus and him and I like Titus as town. I could definitely see Pro hawk as the scum in the pair though.

Cabd · Post Post #919 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:43 pm

Vote Count of the Second City, Third Block

Players Alive: 11
Votes to Lynch: 6
Format of:
Wagon (size): Voters on wagon

notscience (3): artemiskitty, Natirasha, Titus (L-3)

Titus (1): notscience (L-5)
Mario and the Diamonds (1): Cephrir (L-5)
Brian Skies (1): Prohawk (L-5)
Natirasha (1): Rail Tracer (L-5)

Deadline for Night Two falls on: 10/09/13 which is (expired on 2013-10-09 21:00:00)

Mod notes:

~Heart Broken again. Oh well, Rayman>Mario lately anyways.
~Will search for yet another replacement...

ProHawk · Post Post #920 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:45 pm

In post 917, artemiskitty wrote:votes can be used to pressure..

Do elaborate.

artemiskitty · Post Post #921 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:47 pm

In post 918, Natirasha wrote:Mario because he's been useless. This could change if his replacement is useful.

Brian because POE, sadly. Its between ProHawk, Titus and him and I like Titus as town. I could definitely see Pro hawk as the scum in the pair though.

i think so. re prohawk

prohawk - gut. :/ that's all i really have. i have liked all his posts.
and so i end up getting suspicious of you, for pushing a wagon on him.

artemiskitty · Post Post #922 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:48 pm

In post 920, ProHawk wrote:
In post 917, artemiskitty wrote:votes can be used to pressure..
Do elaborate.

responding to

In post 906, Brian Skies wrote: Also, I don't see anything wrong with my vote. I thought votes could also be used to pressure.

which is another reason why brian being newish is relevant

Natirasha · Post Post #923 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:52 pm

Can you rephrase that last statement of 921, Mantis, the pronouns are confusing.

artemiskitty · Post Post #924 (ISO) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:55 pm

In post 923, Natirasha wrote:Can you rephrase that last statement of 921, Mantis, the pronouns are confusing.

well, i think i agree that Prohawk could be seen as a pairing..... with NS. i don't agree with your take on Mario.

i was saying to Prohawk, in response to his question on why Brian is town to me. is that i have liked all of Brian's posts. i still think Brian is town. and i'm partially sus of PH for pushing a wagon/lynch vote on him.