N's Notably Narcissistic Nonsensical Namesake (game over)

[Majiffy]

I thoroughly agree with that sentiment. I saw 658 quoted in one of the ISOs and it bugged me to no end with how scummy it was.

[Mitillos]

@BB: Except you're voting Metal (I don't seem to remember your case on him; better re-read your ISO), so, why exactly are you asking for votes on Nani?

[Majiffy]

I would go for a Nani lynch.

[ooba]

Im back - I'm drunk but I feel inspired enough to do my re-read now...

[ooba]

Peace - do you have any completed games on record after your return to the site?

[Dante]

I would go for a Nani lynch.

Why Nani?

[Dante]

Im back - I'm drunk but I feel inspired enough to do my re-read now...

Please enlighten us.

Peace - do you have any completed games on record after your return to the site?

More meta?

[Majiffy]

I would go for a Nani lynch.

Why Nani?

It must be so difficult to read from the top of the page.

I thoroughly agree with that sentiment.

I saw 658 quoted in one of the ISOs and it bugged me to no end with how scummy it was.

[Dante]

I would go for a Nani lynch.

Why Nani?

It must be so difficult to read from the top of the page.

I thoroughly agree with that sentiment.

I saw 658 quoted in one of the ISOs and it bugged me to no end with how scummy it was.

Me so sorry. amirite?

[DeasVail]

^what are you referring to there? you mean why does mnemonic-scum suggest lynching a player he thinks is town? because i can think... of perhaps a couple reasons... he might want to do that... as scum...

I can't think of any reason why scum would want people to know they're doing it.

Hey how do you think I found out (!) ?

Are you always this slow or are you just mimicking your persona and popping excessive amounts of Valium before you interact with others?

I hoped if you saw my name then you would at least be like "Hi Nacho!" and not be such an asshole, but I hoped for too much.

Luna, why does mnemonic-scum post what he has in the last few RL days?

There's something that could make him town, but there's only one thing. Do you think he looks townish?

When it comes down to content/frequency, I associate his posting with scum. He's just there, not ever trying to improve his townplay, but consistently active enough that he doesn't get replaced. If he wasn't under any pressure, I'd feel better about calling him scum, but if he's here and he's being wagoned as scum, why not at least try a little harder to look town? The post about lynching someone that's town in particular feels too 'I don't care what people think of me' to be scum. My townread (if you could call it that) isn't very strong at all though. I just feel he's the kind of wagon that could easily end up on town.

[DeasVail]

Actually, I probably don't have a townread at all. I'm just really confused by his play.

[BBmolla]

@BB: Except you're voting Metal (I don't seem to remember your case on him; better re-read your ISO), so, why exactly are you asking for votes on Nani?

Oh yeah.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Nani

I was just seeing if there was a claim or some shit I missed.

[BBmolla]

For the record, I don't hate a mmnemnic device lynch, he's just a vig target anyway.

[Majiffy]

VOTE: Nani

[N]

nerdy

adjective

Slang. of or like a nerd.

Vote Count 2.08

Luna Lovegood

( 1 ) DeasVail

Dante

( 0 )

DeasVail

( 0 )

Shadowy Poison

( 0 )

Rail Tracer

( 0 )

PeaceBringer

( 2 ) PeregrineV , mnemonicdevice

mnemonicdevice

( 7 ) Dante , Rail Tracer , ooba , Metal Unites Mutley , Luna Lovegood , Mitillos

ooba

( 0 )

PeregrineV

( 1 ) PeaceBringer

Nani

( 2 ) BBmolla , Majiffy

Metal Unites Mutley

( 0 )

Mitillos

( 2 ) Nani , Shadowy Poison

RadiantCowbells

( 0 )

Majiffy

Diabolik

( 0 )

BBmolla

( 1 ) RadiantCowbells

Not voting:

With 15 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

Deadline is in

(expired on 2013-10-06 04:47:07)

[Majiffy]

N

Ni!

[DeasVail]

Can someone tell me why they don't want to lynch Luna? (Preferably more than one person, but my hopes aren't very high, so...)

[N]

Prodding PeaceBringer, Shadowy Poison, and Nani

[Rail Tracer]

I can't think of any reason why scum would want people to know they're doing it.

one possibility is that he thinks town will agree that he's not worth lynching in comparison to a negative utility role

the other possibility is that he's town and willingly wants to lynch a town player instead of someone he thinks is scum

i think the former seems a bit more likely

Can someone tell me why they don't want to lynch Luna?

haven't seen any notable reasons to think they're scum and there are better options atm. *shrug* this game has been entirely disappointing in the amount of players who aren't contributing. and not all of them can be scum.

[DeasVail]

Yeah, I get what you mean (and let's face it, I'm probably going to end up voting for mnemonic), but when I can't think of a good reason for why town or scum would do something, usually the player in question ends up being town. Town does weird stuff sometimes.

[Rail Tracer]

*shrug* i

can

see him doing it as scum all like, "here, ignore me and look at this shiny, golden lynch!"

i suppose he

could

be dumb town, but fuck it, i see no reason not to kill it with fire. if that sounds like i'm supporting a PL, it's probably because that is kind of what i'm doing here.

[ooba]

Im back - I'm drunk but I feel inspired enough to do my re-read now...

Sorry - I slept off at Page 3 yesterday. Now at Page 20 - exhausting though..

[ooba]

Did not realise we are this close to deadline. I have finished my re-read and I'm immensely glad I did it because I think I've caught scum. Also - I'm not doing a chornological order of notes - just posting notes relevant to each read. (Note: I might have screwed up links)

Spoiler: Pairing notes

Pairing notes

Not as important as reads since they are all conditional - but am confident about these.
PV is not scum with Peace: Kinda obvious with current posting but I got this from Kat's 22/23 where she says "scumposting" to Peace but votes SK.
- Mit is not scum with DV: Interactions on post 180-184 are just weird
Post 246
- Maj is not scum with RC
- Maj is not scum with Luna
- Longshot: Maj is scum with SP
Post 292
- Luna not scum with DV
Post 295/296
- PB not scum with DV
Post 329
- BB is not scum with Katsuki
Post 495
- SD is definitely town if Nani is scum
Page 26
-

SD is not scum with Nani

- I don't like that Nani's null again in 545
881
- Mit is not scum with BB

Town

Race:

My Strongest town read. A lot of what he's said mirrored my thoughts or were relatable.
- Towntell on 72 for picking up on 56

DaesVail:

A reversal from D1. Town - not as strong as race though.
- Towntell on 86 - good case on PB.

Dante:

Another reversal from D1. Town - not sure I agree with playstyle but the tone and the "I dont give a damn" is definitely not scum.
- 500 was a big towntell for me
- 321/322/324 was milder

RC:

I think BB is scum - that makes RC town. But even otherwise RC's late D1 push and today's play+push are town-town-town.

Thoughts on some others

On Reading Page 6, Kats (PV) didn't look as bad as I thought she was before. Regarding PB - Started off the re-read and thought he was def. scum in the first few pages, then that read got neutered a bit. I haven't gone through the meta links yet.

I'm leaning town on PV. Can't say the same for PB yet. Two others who I was leaning town on D1 (Maj and SD) are now neutral. I like everything about SD except his Molla support in 917 and 1056.

Surprisingly I didnt get much of a read on mnem. The only post of note was 479 where I thought he misrepped DV's case on Luna.

Scum

Nani

- On D1, Nani's minimal posting + sticking to one suspect was scummy (331)
- Not as strong as top three

MUM

- Not commenting on SK\Peace at this point (32)
- Why mention Luna here? (158)
- Votes BBM and calls BBM town in the same post (883)
- Whatever RT says in 438 (437)

Luna

- 292 is a very long post followed up by a weak vote. 556 was a better read post but Luna's posts have been very lackluster - not the scumhunting I expect from Nacho.
- Page 41 sort of freaked me out since I have BBM and Luna as my top scum reads. But the weak jump off in 1017-1018 shows it for the mild bussing attempt it was.

BBM

- D1: The entire vote & unvote on SK was scummy. No real reasons for this phrase "I think he's just scum for his postings." in 56. SK had made very few posts at that time and none of it was scummy. That later became voting SK for his claim. The subsequent unvote off the wagon "Revelations have me believing SK's role for the moment." was weak too (198)
- D2: The timing + some assumptions ("Framer is the most obvious and probable possibility with what we were given (See: Day 1's flip)" - in fact, I would assume Framer as the last possible role with a compulsive targeter) were weird.
But the most telling thing is that his reactions all have the vibe of frustrated scum who's not lying about the mod error and thinks that's why he's being put under the spotlight. When you look at this way, all these posts are telling:

"If it helps at all, this isn't a gambit. It'd be really fucking stupid if it was."
"At least confirm the mod error for me."
"Nach, if you think I'm scum fine, but I'm not going to fake a mod error."

BBM is clearly scum - I haven't been this sure of a scum read in a long time. Please join me and RC on this.

Unvote. Vote: BBM

[ooba]

Also, I did not want this part of the earlier post because I believe my case is strong enough without setup speculation but with Nero's role:

You are a

Numbered Normaliser

(in other words: a

2-Shot Normaliser

)

.
This means that, twice during the game, you can target one player at night. Starting the next day, that player's role will be changed to the nearest Normal equivalent. If there is a change, they will be informed.

The two cop neighbours would have become normal cops. That is overpowered if both of them are town - even with the framer. (esp. since they will be informed about it & since Nero using the normalizer on paranoid and naive cop would clear him since scum would never do that).

[Shadowy Poison]

Shadowy is town.

Vote: Shadowy Poison

I guess I'll wait for the reason behind this

just, don't kill me

Before I get asked why, it's for this, but I don't want to explain more.

"I think they are Soft-claiming a PR"


and yet, mollie/nero was killed over us

Molla is town