Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[morph the cat]

That post was pretty good too!

It's not a lot to go on, but to us, it's decidedly not null content. Do you disagree?

I feel like we should have a stronger read on Nero, but there's a same-old same-old feel to what he's posted so far.

Yeah, that's why I asked. I don't really see anything in Banakai's posts and it really doesn't take much in the way of effort / competency to be like "hey dudes, I'm reading and will post later" as scum. (And by your criteria, I think Seanald is way better in the "not giving a shit" townvibes front.)

I feel the same way about Nero w.r.t. feeling like I should be getting a stronger read there but he looks pretty solid to me so far.

Seanald's not giving a shit felt a little overdone. Re, Banakai, it wasn't a not giving a shit vibe. I dunno. Maybe we're reading too much into it, but I like his post a lot better than Seanald's. And hellaciously better than Klick's.

[Garuda]

459? how? the second line of 459 was kind of meh but i don't know what you mean by posturing here.

The second line is mostly what I'm talking about (though I think the whole thing is forced). Take a look at it in context: it comes not too long after Deadline is activated and it just feels like he's trying to fake being blindsided by it.

P-edit: Voided, I feel like Seanald would have probably more of an attempt to be "helpful" as scum though? He certainly didn't have a problem trying to look pro-town in the last game as scum by attacking Tammy early despite a fast moving thread and then being apologetic when his attack backfired.

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.13

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Hermy (7): Lost Butterfly, Garuda, Pyrotechnics, uʍop ǝpısdn, zMuffinMan, Harakiri, VoidedMafia
VoidedMafia (4): Klick, 1baldeagle1, BBmolla, Hermy
Harakiri (2): Nero Cain, ProHawk
Seanald (1): Lord Mhork
Lord Mhork (1): Zdenek

Not Voting (6): PeregrineV, Seanald, guille2015, Banakai, DoctorPepper, morph the cat

New deadline as of 452 is Wednesday, October 16th at 11:30am EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-10-16 10:30:00)

[morph the cat]

16. ProHawk - On the basis of his replies to Cabd, me.

is this referring to 542? because iirc you didn't like all his earlier responses to you.

Yep. For me, the discussion with Nacho also helped cast the earlier exchange in a slightly different light.

Scum
1. VoidedMafia - waffling between top of this list and bottom of null list.
21. Klick
15. Hermy

are you going to vote one of these players?

Yes.

[zMuffinMan]

it comes not too long after Deadline is activated and it just feels like he's trying to fake being blindsided by it.

maybe. but that seems like a rather dumb post to make as scum shortly after the deadline ability was used.

i also think 757 looked more townish than scum.

[Garuda]

Garuada, what's that vote for?

He's scum.

So, the game is already 19 pages long, and I only have three days to read it?

Is there anything in particular that I need to know?

In particular, this line sounded incredibly fake.

Garuda, do you think it's possible whomever put money towards medium was scum trying to flood the market with useless junk?

Not really. Wasting money on putting useless junk on the market leaves you less money to advertise for useful shit and get good things. I think that scum meant to get Medium for figuring out dead scum buddies then ended up spending most of their money on countering what actually got to market.

i'm null on like all of those quotes. i don't see town tone in any of them and they're all pretty alignment-neutral posts. why did you like them?

The first quote is Voided responding to a question about a possible scumslip with "no clue what you're talking about, but whatever it is, that doesn't make him scum". This is more ballsy than the Voided scum I know.
The second quote is Voided in a weird position because he knows that scum has and will likely activate Deadline (since it went for over $101) and he's reassuring bald eagle that quick lynching won't really be necessary.
Third quote Voided rebuts someone who he *thinks* is misrepping him but doesn't go back to check.
Fourth is good paranoia.
Fifth is good dismissiveness.
Sixth is good paranoia.

My only worry is I'm not sure how feasible it is to organize town blocs today given the short deadline and how many people have barely posted (and aren't the most reliable people to count on to submit money). I prefer just suggesting what abilities should be advertised.

Getting a small townblock together doesn't seem like it would be too difficult, especially with the likes of you/Tammy/Empire/ffery in the game.

Ffery meant "I'm a little discouraged that we'll NOT be able to work effectively together night 1."

I laughed.

Lynching Lost Butterfly day 1 is a HUGE waste, even if you guys are scum, cause I still think you'll legitimately scumhunt to find your buddies. I just wanted to see Mina's reaction to it more than anything.

Molla is upgraded back to good town.

Ughbluh.

upside down is a more confident townread after this post.

Also what the hell, I advertised for austerity measures.

Why?

So how much longer do you guys think it will take for Tammy to realize that Lost Butterfly is town? Any guesses?

I have a more pressing question. Should we gift you or Lost Butterfly with our tuppence tonight?

Neither.

Nacho, you played Newbie 1409. Are you seeing Hermy's play here as significantly different from her early play in that game?

I don't remember at the moment, but I'll check back when I have my date with Empire this afternoon.

I feel like we should have a stronger read on Nero, but there's a same-old same-old feel to what he's posted so far.

He looks OK, but grrrr! kinda creeps me out even though it shouldn't.

[Nero Cain]

Well I don't. I've played one game with Hana (not counting the ongoing). I don't remember much of anything about that game except that Mara and I had a town read on Hana. (I'm also going to go read said game after this post.) Hana pretty much saying "well, I'm going to sheep" is just horrible on so many levels. Does she sheep others in a game without Nacho, what? Telling me that "I don't sheep Nacho" is just cheeky.

If you had asked "Do you sheep D1, then?" or something to that effect, it would've been fine, but asking specifically about Nacho for games that he's not in is begging for a cheeky response, not to mention the question being ridiculous.

It was pretty obvious what Nero was asking, but I guess it probably wasn't really leading anywhere though.

Nero, if she'd answered your question properly, would that make any difference at all to your read?

no.

Maybe it was silly and didn't think it out properly but I've made my feelings clear on Harakiri so w/e.

[Lord Mhork]

Garuda, then if that why you think medium got advertised, what do you think of zdenek?

My only issue is that they didn't put any money at all to it. That felt super weird.

[Nero Cain]

Why are Voided's 749 and 774 so similar?

[Nero Cain]

Why are Voided's 749 and 774 so similar?

[Voidedmafia]

Why are Voided's 749 and 774 so similar?

Why is this statement so generalized?

What, if any, was the point of this question?

Why is it that your recent questions don't really seem to be adding much?

[Nero Cain]

Why are you getting so upset that I noticed that your posts are similar?

Its like you forget you posted or something or you're scum that wanted to make your last post bigger...idk.

I think its pretty clear where I was going with Hana. Hana claiming to sheep Nacho is dumb. My asking "what do you do when Nacho isn't in the game?" is just asking if she does nothing but sheep. I still think her "I don't sheep Nacho" is just a cheeky scumbut answer.

I could buy a Hana/Voided team.

[Voidedmafia]

Why are you getting so upset that I noticed that your posts are similar?

Because the way you're phrasing the question indicates that you find SOMETHING wrong with it, but you're being cagey about why and it does not give me good feelings about why you asked it.

Its like you forget you posted or something or you're scum that wanted to make your last post bigger...idk.

It's called "catching up" You are aware that at least two pages worth of stuff is cropping up between each burst of posts from me, right?

I think its pretty clear where I was going with Hana. Hana claiming to sheep Nacho is dumb. My asking "what do you do when Nacho isn't in the game?" is just asking if she does nothing but sheep. I still think her "I don't sheep Nacho" is just a cheeky scumbut answer.

And yet the question doesn't give me that kind of vibe. Why couldn't you have just asked if she sheeps every game?

[PeregrineV]

I'm here. I know the game started but I did not expect 30+ pages. Will catch up today/tomorrow.

What's the current events?

[1baldeagle1]

I'm here. I know the game started but I did not expect 30+ pages. Will catch up today/tomorrow.

What's the current events?

Deadline in 21 hours.

Voided is scum. We are scum reading him but we are going for the easy newbie lynch...

[PeregrineV]

I'm here. I know the game started but I did not expect 30+ pages. Will catch up today/tomorrow.

What's the current events?

Deadline in 21 hours.

Voided is scum. We are scum reading him but we are going for the easy newbie lynch...

Shit. OK, will rush it.

[Voidedmafia]

Shit. OK, will rush it.

At the very least tell us what you advertised on (if anything) and what you bid on (and possibly won).

[Klick]

So, the game is already 19 pages long, and I only have three days to read it?

Is there anything in particular that I need to know?

In particular, this line sounded incredibly fake.

Why?

[morph the cat]

I'm here. I know the game started but I did not expect 30+ pages. Will catch up today/tomorrow.

What's the current events?

Deadline in 21 hours.

Voided is scum. We are scum reading him but we are going for the easy newbie lynch...

Shit. OK, will rush it.

flailfake

[PeregrineV]

Shit. OK, will rush it.

At the very least tell us what you advertised on (if anything) and what you bid on (and possibly won).

No advertising. Bid and won neighborizor.

[PeregrineV]

I'm here. I know the game started but I did not expect 30+ pages. Will catch up today/tomorrow.

What's the current events?

Deadline in 21 hours.

Voided is scum. We are scum reading him but we are going for the easy newbie lynch...

Shit. OK, will rush it.

flailfake

[BBmolla]

Why Hermy over Voided

[PeregrineV]

FMR:

Marketplace 1: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17937

Marketplace 2: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=23764

[Lost Butterfly]

@BBmolla: Because Hermy is about as obvscum as it's possible to be on Day One with only four posts. And I'm not someone who says "obvscum" lightly.

I mean, the post I voted her for was pretty much the textbook Incompetent Scum Entrance. "Hi, there's lots of stuff going on, and instead of saying what my opinions are on any of this stuff, I'm going to be very vague and try to look helpful by offering to answer questions. Oh, look, here are two popular wagons. I guess they could both be scum, or they could both not be. I don't actually have any idea. But I'm still going to add my vote to the largest wagon because of 'reasons listed' and 'his posts and ISO.' Boy, I hope this lynch goes through quickly and I make it to Day Two without anyone noticing I exist." Her reaction to the flash wagon was also atrocious.

Why Voided over Hermy? Also, BBmolla, did you genuinely think I looked "nervous" when you voted for me? I'd have understood reading the post about bidding as fake, but nervous?

[Lost Butterfly]

Okay, maybe I should toss Hermy a bone. Hermy, what are the "reasons" listed for which you voted Voidedmafia? Do you believe Voided and Harakiri are the two scummiest players in the game? What are your top town reads?

Also, could you please say what you advertised last night, if anything?