Mini 1508 ~ Tales of uPick ~ Error

[Sakura Hana]

So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

[borkjerfkin]

UNVOTE:

checking sakura scum games for woe-is-me ATE

[fferyllt]

So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

So it's not tied to parallels in terms of game events?

[Sakura Hana]

So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

So it's not tied to parallels in terms of game events?

No, It's tied in parallels in terms of how i feel with the game.

[Sakura Hana]

You know like that time LLD called Blood Pact and I suddenly got Flashwagoned (and almost Hammered if Saki hadn't unvoted)

[borkjerfkin]

Open 510 - Lynched D2, did not do the "woe-is-me" thing, but the "you're gonna be sorry when you lynch me" thing, which is pretty distinctly different in that it's much easier to fake.
Newbie 1379 - Lynched D3, pulled a "I don't care if I'm lynched as long as you lynch X tomorrow" gambit. Way different.
Newbie 1371 - Lynched D1, and probably the most telling because of that. Is never emotionally responsive to this in the way that she's being right now, just a "you sure you guys won't stop tunneling me oh you won't guess I'll self-hammer" No threats to replace out or emotionally charged frustration.

Other scum games she was not lynched in.

This is different than any of those and more similar to that-which-must-not-be-named. I think she is town.

[fferyllt]

You know like that time LLD called Blood Pact and I suddenly got Flashwagoned (and almost Hammered if Saki hadn't unvoted)

Scum took maximal advantage of that in the Xenologue game.

Do you see scum influence on your wagon's formation?

[Sakura Hana]

Do you see scum influence on your wagon's formation?

ns.

You kinda saw how I overreacted towards him because he KNOWs that i am changing playstyles because of reasons i'm not gonna mention, yet he decides to push that anything different from my old meta means scum me.

[fferyllt]

Do you see scum influence on your wagon's formation?

ns.

You kinda saw how I overreacted towards him because he KNOWs that i am changing playstyles because of reasons i'm not gonna mention, yet he decides to push that anything different from my old meta means scum me.

Well, there's sort of a quiet, sullen vibe you have going, and it does come off a little scummy because it feels like you're being reactive - not seeking interactions. You gave Cabd a townread without reaching out to him to speak of. And you gave Gaiden a scumread without much direct interaction either.

Then you just kinda shut down after 336. Maybe that's due to feeling like you're being targeted by scum, though.

I don't know if this oblique style is intentional or if it's a result of other stuff you're trying to change. But, it's probably not all that effective for scumhunting if it's overdone.

I like to occasionally go quiet and just observe for a while in games, but it has to be combined with periods of activity and questioning or it can look like active lurking.

[Sakura Hana]

Then you just kinda shut down after 336.

If it's because of the time difference then:
After work I usually play videogames in my computer while every now and then checking in here to see what's been posted.
If it's of the way I posted:
I am aware that I'm playing more passive here, but the thing is that I don't feel comfortable being as active as I used to be, I just have a feeling that everytime i engage with someone I'm gonna get lynched, look at what happened in Xenologue, I engaged with LLD and got flashwagoned, and after that it left quite an impression on me, because I couldn't read anyone worth anything and I was too paranoid of everyone in that game, and look at what happened, I got lynched as Town PR despite me claiming.

[fferyllt]

Then you just kinda shut down after 336.

If it's because of the time difference then:
After work I usually play videogames in my computer while every now and then checking in here to see what's been posted.
If it's of the way I posted:
I am aware that I'm playing more passive here, but the thing is that I don't feel comfortable being as active as I used to be, I just have a feeling that everytime i engage with someone I'm gonna get lynched, look at what happened in Xenologue, I engaged with LLD and got flashwagoned, and after that it left quite an impression on me, because I couldn't read anyone worth anything and I was too paranoid of everyone in that game, and look at what happened, I got lynched as Town PR despite me claiming.

Well, that was an unusual game in a lot of ways, including the insane complexity of the roles and role interactions. I felt very much out of my league playing with some of the players, including LLD.

This game doesn't have anything like the "wtf have I gotten myself into" vibe of that game.

[Cabd]

LLD

Her ladyship was an ass postgame anyways, so I'd put you on a higher tier than her for that alone.

[Iso]

So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

then fucking play the fucking game

goddamn

you haven't even addressed my case against you, for one

for two, you aren't scumhunting

Stop bitching that you're getting run up if you're not going to contribute.

[Cabd]

Iso, meet sakura. Sakura, Iso.

[Elize Lutus]

Chill out, Iso.

[SXTLHGaiden]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Elize Lutus
I want to know if i can do this.

[Elize Lutus]

The Seventh Tally of Votes (AKA Meltokio is a crappy place)

Cabd ~2~ pitoli, Natirasha
Natirasha
notscience ~1~ Syryana
Syryana
Sakura Hana ~2~ Iso, notscience
fferyllt
The Acting Method
borkjerfkin
SXTLHGaiden ~2~ Cabd, Sakura Hana
Skullduggery
pitoli ~1~ fferyllt
Hanasawa
Iso
End Day

Not Voting: The Acting Method, Hanasawa, Skullduggery, borkjerfkin, SXTLHGaiden

@Gaiden: Nope.

With

13

healthy players, it takes

7

to incapacitate someone.

Hanasawa is LA for ~1 month but is expected to post.

Deadline:

92%

[SXTLHGaiden]

I think you mean, "vote all you like, it just isn't gonna do anything"

[Skullduggery]

For the other question, of course. I am hyper paranoid (this helped me win a game in college once). the only thing my alignment changes is the type of paranoia I use. When town it is "everybody but me is scum unless otherwise noted" paranoia. When scum it is "all townies have PR unless otherwise noted" paranoia.

Is this a wrong stance to take?

Mmm. No, it makes sense.

Any suggestions on how we can tell the difference between your two brands of paranoia? What should we be looking for when we analyze your content?

Anyways, I was hammiing it up, Skullduggery. I was going to vote Cabd at some point, but I mean, I have to get in character.

Oh, right, gotcha. I think I'll refrain from doing anything in-character since that would make it super-obvious who I picked. >_>

If I had two votes, one of them would be on TAM.

Why?

And i'd pull sakura meta from "that one game nobody ever wants to mention by name" but I think there's enough of us here that played it we can remember for ourselves.

Care to provide a synopsis for the benefit of those of us who have no idea what the crap you're talking about?

This is different than any of those and more similar to that-which-must-not-be-named. I think she is town.

How does this decision about Sakura's alignment affect your opinion of Iso, if at all? Do you think his case on Sakura is coming from a good place?

Do you see scum influence on your wagon's formation?

ns.

You kinda saw how I overreacted towards him because he KNOWs that i am changing playstyles because of reasons i'm not gonna mention, yet he decides to push that anything different from my old meta means scum me.

Can you point to the specific posts where you felt that he said this?

[Cabd]

Care to provide a synopsis for the benefit of those of us who have no idea what the crap you're talking about?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... feryllt.29

[SXTLHGaiden]

Hard to say. While I am hyper paranoid, when making reads and analyzing what people are saying, I try to be as objective as possible to counteract it. I'll ponder things about how my paranoia comes across and let you know.

[Cabd]

Care to provide a synopsis for the benefit of those of us who have no idea what the crap you're talking about?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... feryllt.29

Sakura, Bork, myself, Syr, ffery, and nati were all present.

[Iso]

I'm chill. I just don't think Sakura has a right to complain about getting run up when Sakura's play is the reason Sakura is getting run up.

[fferyllt]

Why?

Because his reads in 237 feel pretty shallow to me. And because he was active elsewhere on MS today but didn't come back to this game. I know he hardcore lurks sometimes as town. But that's a town behavior I think some players cultivate because it benefits their scum game. I discourage that sort of play when I can because we wind up with players at or near lylo that nobody has a decent read on.

[Iso]

I always yell at him for active lurking so I'm surprised he actually posted reads at this point.