Mini 1488: Lucid Dreamers Mafia (Game Over)

[killerjester]

I'm going to bed. These are my notes so far.

Guyett:
-investigation of Nat last night doesn't make much sense given the prior townread
-his dream about Safety feels..wrong. Does not give the vibe of trying to delay the nightkill. I feel the natural tactic in that position would be to attempt to delay an entire day, wording the dream so that the injured player dies the following night. If Guyett is scum it's possible he was told that the nightkill would be delayed (GIF's dream??).
-trying to rush MyLo is bad
Pairings - GM, Haschel

goodmorning:
-didn't immediately suspect Haschel when their claims were conflicting
Pairings - Guyett, Haschel, Caled

Haschel:
-flavor issue, the way that I "saw" Maemuki travel suggests it is the subject of the dreams that do the travelling/visiting, not the dreamer. Since caled was not the subject of any dream, I do not find it likely that Zaicon would have counted her as "visiting" my home. But more importantly, I think that Haschel should have "seen" the paramedic who saved me, even if it was himself, as the paramedic was doing the direct-saving in the same way Maemuki was doing the direct-traveling
Pairings - GM, Guyett

caled:
-can only be paired with GM, ergo not a viable lynch
Pairings - GM

Nat:
-completely cleared through viable scumpairing and Guyett's claim

My gut says Guyett is scum. Likely paired with Haschel but I'm not ruling anything out. Going to sleep on it.

[Guyett]

There is a very very good reason I investigated Nat. Yes I have had him as a town read this game but I also had him as town in 2 games that have recently finished that he flipped scum and won. I needed to make sure he wasn't tricking me again.

Also regarding the safety dream I tried to delay the kill so we could use whoever was killed vote and finish the day in 48 hours if needed. inactivity fucked that up.
As scum why would I be told that the night kill was being delayed due to GIF's dream? That makes NO FUCKING SENSE.

Fucks sake town are actually going to fucking lose this due to FUCKING RETARDED PEOPLE!!!!

[Guyett]

IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM WHY HAVEN'T YOU VOTED ME?

WHY HASN'T GM FUCKING VOTED ME!!!

FUCK SAKE LETS MAKE THIS EASY FOR YOU

VOTE: guyett

go fuck youreslf

[Guyett]

it was 1 game that Nat was scum not 2.

[Guyett]

Killerjester do you hate logic?

[killerjester]

Link the game?

Also regarding the safety dream I tried to delay the kill so we could use whoever was killed vote and finish the day in 48 hours if needed. inactivity fucked that up.

Precisely why the most-natural tactic would be to delay the kill for an entire ingame day.

As scum why would I be told that the night kill was being delayed due to GIF's dream?

In the same manner that I was told Haschel saved me from a burning house, so too might the scum have been told they were "caught in a web" and that their actions would be delayed.

IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM WHY HAVEN'T YOU VOTED ME?

I just told you why. I'm sleeping on a few ideas.

WHY HASN'T GM FUCKING VOTED ME!!!

I'm not mind reader but probably because he's already voting his CC.

[killerjester]

Killerjester do you hate logic?

Only in philosophy classes

[Natirasha]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31354

I mostly coasted on a good claim.

[Guyett]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=31354
He was part of the Garruk Relentless hydra.

I didn't think I'd be able to get away with delaying the kill for an entire day.. I figured the only way I'd be able to do that is if I knew exactly who the target was. Zaicon would have just shot down the idea of saving whoever the person was for the entire day.

Night kill mechanic is different to the dream mechanic. Maemuki was told the outcome of my dream last night so the effects of dreams could be told to others like the saving from the fire dream.

If you are town and you want to insta lose vote me. It will be glorious and GM will be pissing herself laughing.

Could you think about this logically for a second. Look at my dreams for the past few days.... they have been largely pro town.
Now look at the GM/shane slot. Now it was EXTREMELY obvious that that slot wouldn't be nightkilled if they were town as they are lynch bait. Why then would they chose to be a PGO? The only people that might visit them are town investigating them. We had 3 confirmed town in the last 3 days in GIF, Safety and Who/Maemuki. Gif was modkilled so the likely target of the night kills were the remaining 2 confirmed townies. Why chose to PGO yourself when you could PGO the night kill targets? That slots dreams have been entirely based on self preservation!!!

[Guyett]

Nat please talk sense into him!!! you're effectively conf town now.

Also another reason for investigating Nat was to do with the whole Mason thing with SSK that actually turned out to be neighbours. I was very suspicious of Nat due to that.

[Zaicon]

Vote Count 4.3

goodmorning (2):

Haschel Cedricson, Natirasha

Haschel Cedricson (1):

goodmorning

Guyett (1):

Guyett

No Vote (2):

caledfwitch, killerjester

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is Sunday, October 27 at 8:00 AM CDT, which is in (expired on 2013-10-27 08:00:00).

[killerjester]

If you're done being mad why are you still voting for yourself?

[Guyett]

VOTE: GM

[Guyett]

Why are you so sure that GM is town?

[Natirasha]

Don't have much to say. No matter the scenario, one thing is true: goodmorning is scum. Figure everything else tomorrow.

[killerjester]

Why are you so sure that GM is town?

Literally the only player I have called town is Nat. This isn't looking good for you, cupcake.

[Guyett]

Actually you say rushing mylo is bad... how exactly is this bad?

[Haschel Cedricson]

Either I am lying or GM is lying. If I am lying then either my partner is GM, in which case the town should still lynch him, or my partner is Guyett. In addition to Guyett's pro-towniness in general, if Guyett is my partner then he deliberately chose a horrible dream by clearing a townsperson and shortening our list of potential mislynches unnecessarily.

Also, if your argument is that I should have shown up on my own monitor instead of caled, then wouldn't that be evidence that Zaicon considered the fire rescue to be a target on MY part? If so, then why am I not wounded? GM is lying about the mod saying it doesn't count because HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY DREAM ABOUT BEING A PGO.

[killerjester]

Oh yea. Huh. Okay.

VOTE: GM

[Guyett]

Atta boy.

Ok game plan for tonight?

[Natirasha]

Not to say anything in thread to deprive scum of night action information.

[Guyett]

If you are town try doing dreams similar to the examples I have given. Be specific in what you are looking for and try not leave loose ends that are open to interpretation.

Other than that what Nat said I think.

[goodmorning]

what role did I have in those 2 town games?

What difference does that make?

Don't have much to say. No matter the scenario, one thing is true: goodmorning is scum. Figure everything else tomorrow.

Ummmmmmm no.

Oh yea. Huh. Okay.

VOTE: GM

OH FFS

NICE ONE SCUM

GOOD FUCKING GAME

WTG GUY

STOP TRYING TO LYNCH ME EVER AGAIN, YOU'RE THREE FOR THREE AT BEING WRONG IIRC

[Guyett]

If you aren't scum who is?

[Natirasha]

I am completely willing to say that if Haschel+Guyett are the scum team, they played well and deserve the win.