Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

[Bert]

Congratulations, scum team! Well done. <3

The game was definitely intense! Wish we could have lynched the moderator too.

You played really well, Sakura.

Especially day 3. I could tell you were playing out the rope.

QFT

[Sakura Hana]

You played really well, Sakura. Especially day 3. I could tell you were playing out the rope.

Fun fact, my last few posts before thread lock pointed out to you being the most likely partner, too bad Bert didn't pick out on them

[Sakura Hana]

Bonus since we didnt have Dead QT.

I blame Mala

Cabd (21:17)
so you wanna guess who it is in the newbie game, dead kiddo?
Sakura Hana (21:21)
my guess it's ffery
Cabd (21:21)
any reason?
Sakura Hana (21:22)
she's the least town of the remaining 3
Cabd (21:22)
interesting
Sakura Hana (21:23)
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5404816
Sakura Hana (21:23)
I even mentioned it in thread
Cabd (21:24)
oh, so you did
Cabd (21:24)
interesting
Sakura Hana (21:24)
besides
Sakura Hana (21:25)
she seemed not very interested in finding the partner during D3
Sakura Hana (21:25)
all of her scumhunting felt kind of forced specially after i had to tell her to do trajectory analysis
Sakura Hana (21:25)
additionally wisdom's soft push of her felt like distancing
Cabd (21:25)
interesting

Also Cabd told me ffery scumslipped here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p5387529 but he noticed it when the thread was already locked.

[fferyllt]

That wasn't a scum slip. It was a scum claim.

(it was intentional)

[Sakura Hana]

Great play by ffery tho, you had me fooled until somewhere in the middle of D3, that's when i had my suspicions on you, i tried to pretend i was suspecting Bert instead and was obvtowning you as i was doing before so you'd probably leave me alive and then i could vote you in 3p LyLo, but I realized that plan was silly and laid it out before thread lock.

[Sakura Hana]

Well i wasn't sure whether it was intentional or not, but for me it looked like a scum slip, since your post implied that you and Cabd were on opposite teams, my bad for not noticing before tho

[Sakura Hana]

Basically, my end plan was that town would look back at my posts if i died, there i laid out where to proceed.

>One of my posts said scum was between ffery and Bert - This implied that Bert and ffery would crossvote.

>Another of my posts implied that ffery had more chance than Bert to flip scum - This was a hint towards ns to hammer ffery.

It didnt run that way because Bert decided to vote the person I was townreading the most tho, but oh well, it's just a game and i enjoyed it a lot (specially the gambit part)

[F-16_Fighting_Falcon]

I followed this game. It was fun reading. Excellent play by ffery/Wisdom for turning it around when it looked like Wisdom's slot was being lynched. Bert, I was sold that you were town and was rooting for you throughout the game.

[pieguyn]

96 pages

holy crap

[Sakura Hana]

Anyway other than that, im probably going to give my thoughts later, after the IC gives her thoughts on the game and the players.

GG everyone

[Sakura Hana]

96 pages

holy crap

You stalker

[fferyllt]

I followed this game. It was fun reading. Excellent play by ffery/Wisdom for turning it around when it looked like Wisdom's slot was being lynched. Bert, I was sold that you were town and was rooting for you throughout the game.

You guys who can read bunches of games you don't play kinda scare me. I feel like I've lost the info war before the game even starts.

It's kind of encouraging me to rely less on meta and work on other parts of my game. Though I still often find good stuff in the meta pile.

[notscience]

I was hoping for a ffery x Bert cross vote, and hoping ns would pick ffery out of the 2, oh well. At least I get to laugh at Wisdom's AtF

This was my exact thought process

[goodmorning]

Anyway other than that, im probably going to give my thoughts later, after the IC gives her thoughts on the game and the players.

GG everyone

I don't usually do that unless people ask me, because I never know what to say.

Speaking of things to say, I know this is going to sound like a lie/exaggeration, but by the time my "I'm swapping ffery down to third-least Town" post happened, I'd already been scumreading her pretty hard for posts like 374 and 442.
By the time she got down past T S O on the list it was pretty close to deadline, so I figured I'd say more about it the next day and catch her by surprise. (Though I did hint at it in 709.)
And then dead.

Probably wouldn't have got Wisdom though, so there is that.

[goodmorning]

Vaguely curious as to why I was killed.

Also vaguely grateful, I probably would have done a murder if I'd had to sit through another 80+ page Newbie.

[Bert]

Basically, my end plan was that town would look back at my posts if i died, there i laid out where to proceed.

>One of my posts said scum was between ffery and Bert - This implied that Bert and ffery would crossvote.

>Another of my posts implied that ffery had more chance than Bert to flip scum - This was a hint towards ns to hammer ffery.

It didnt run that way because Bert decided to vote the person I was townreading the most tho, but oh well, it's just a game and i enjoyed it a lot (specially the gambit part)

Ah, I learned some lessons in the post-game chats here for sure, thanks for the input y'all. I'm actually a very literal person (don't often read between the lines well). I thought you had it 45/65 ffery and 65/45 bert which made it a coin-flip situation, with ns as an outside possibility at 20/80. I had fun playing with you too! And I'm thankful you got to do your thing being conftown with Wisdom in the game.

It's kind of encouraging me to rely less on meta and work on other parts of my game. Though I still often find good stuff in the meta pile

That sounds like a good plan!

Oh and P.S. Next time I have a random paranoia flood like I did in 1415, it will be for a good reason because you fooled me here! Hopefully when that happens, you're actually scum and not town like Cabd was here haha.

[Sakura Hana]

So GM got to see my new playstyle, what do you think of it?

[Bert]

I followed this game. It was fun reading. Excellent play by ffery/Wisdom for turning it around when it looked like Wisdom's slot was being lynched. Bert, I was sold that you were town and was rooting for you throughout the game.

Uh-oh, you and Nacho were keeping up

Everyone beware and meta-dodge next time you see these guys!

[Sakura Hana]

That question could go to anyone tbh, i think this is my first finished game with my new playstyle.

[goodmorning]

So GM got to see my new playstyle, what do you think of it?

It wasn't that different from the old, really. It is slightly more adaptable now, I think.

And that's good. I like it.

[Cabd]

That question could go to anyone tbh, i think this is my first finished game with my new playstyle.

You kicked ass like I told you in sitechat.

[fferyllt]

Vaguely curious as to why I was killed.

Also vaguely grateful, I probably would have done a murder if I'd had to sit through another 80+ page Newbie.

It was mostly just to have a crazy-looking kill night 1. I was worried that hitting a PR on night 1 would point directly at me because Cabd knows that I can PR hunt pretty hard especially in a small game. I didn't expect to make it to endgame, so I was ok with it if the kill did point in my direction, but I thought it was audacious enough that it wouldn't fit my meta very well.

I really needed Cabd in the game longer than day 2 :/

I've never really understood his reasoning for keeping people who are suspicious of him in the game as long as he does, but I think this situation was somewhat similar. I needed a town antagonist because that was how I entered the game. With him gone, my day 3 play pretty much died on the vine.

[Bert]

I like how you stayed really objective, you didn't remove that lens with anyone, even with Wisdom's AtF or AtE.

I didn't expect that from you, to be honest. When you're not rattled, you do pretty well!

The gambit was semi-baffling to me, though. I didn't believe it when it first happened haha

You kicked ass like I told you in sitechat.

That.

[Bert]

P.S. The GM kill was just as crazy looking as my last newbie where I was a claimed VT and got killed for no reason
N1

I had Flashbacks of Hard Boiled and bringing Tammy/Mala to the 3P lylo

[Sakura Hana]

Also special thanks to Mala for being an awesome mod and for teaching me how to VCA on that matrix 6 micro we played a long time ago.