A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Katsuki]

That quadz stuff... interesting.

Wonderful so Tierce is probably scum?

Glad to know I'm not losing it and can still read some people at least...

Oh you.

The alternative was you being helpful and helping me out~

[Tierce]

That'd be so boring. Be a dear and grow an independent streak.

[Katsuki]

Wah wah feed me mommy!

[Eddard Stark]

Day 4, Vc 10

The Alchemist (1) -

Benmage

Titus (3) -

Nautilius, SafetyDance, kanyeknowsbest

elleheathen (2) -

Goat on a Raft, PrideandJoy

SafetyDance (8) -

Titus, quadz08, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, The Alchemist, Katsuki, AGar

quadz08 (2) -

ooba, Shadoweh

Not voting (4)

:Alfred Borden, elleheathen, Messiah Complex, Tierce

With 20 alive it takes 11 votes to lynch

• Deadline Date: 10th of November at 17:00 EDT
  
• Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-11-10 17:00:00)
  
• Tierce is V/la

[Nautilius]

Naut, you act as if it is so simple. Why doesn't SD just say that with his results in a nice concise format with no garbage?

Why doesn't he do that as either alignment?

That's not as bad as I thought it would be. Does your target know that you roleblocked em?

When you started with the "I need you to kill me shtick", I thought she did something absolutely horrible. Making Tierce a Vanilla Townie is not incredibly pro-town, but it's incredibly hilarious and I'm willing to let you live on those merits alone.

That'd be so boring. Be a dear and grow an independent streak.

You could also not bother being independent and just sheep me.

[The Alchemist]

Roleblocking didn't hurt the coin, either.

[The Alchemist]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Titus

[quadz08]

Dear Ooba,

My opinions can change.

<3 quadz


Alchemist, why the Titus vote?

[The Alchemist]

Alchemist, why the Titus vote?

A wild combination of sheeping Nacho, losing faith in my scumread of SD (the reaction he gave was not in any way shape or form what I expected), and upon reread of Titus' ISO I am comfortable with lynching her toDay (this merits a longer explanation than I have time to write right now, but suffice it to say I think she's scum largely because all the shit she's been doing/asking has no discernible goal in mind other than to look busy).

[Nautilius]

Whether I got ninja or strongman mixed up in the initial post is irrelevant to what I used N2 and what I claimed I used. It has never changed.

No, it clearly has.

Well that was unnecessarily hostile.

You confused Ninja with Strongman, your brilliance.

Pfft. More than happy to volley snarky bs back with interest.

Ninja's avoid detection, which is how Naut would avoid being detected doing anything night 2.

*sigh* basic mafia theory, man. You out tracks if they give you pseudo-guilties, not pseudo-innocents, unless another claim contradicts your results or it's fullclaim time.

Curious to see how he responds to Garruk's question.

I love how everyone's a hindsight expert and no one said boo D3.

I don't need to respond to GR, since he's being stupid because there's no confusion or contradiction.

Yesterday was Day 3. Today is Day 4.

Therefore day 3 IS yesterday and yesterday was when I claimed to have blocked Naut D2.

Can't have visited Naut and Quadz on the same night, they would be kinda impossible.

This is all I really need to point out, we need to lynch him ASAP.

Tammy, I read this post and all I hear is this.
Runaway from him tammtrum. Get off that wagon ASAP.

[Nautilius]

And then after AGar's name is fed to the wolves and we burn the Zdenek slot, we lynch Goat, who will flip scum.

[Benmage]

@Elle

if your target dies, can you RB again?

[Tierce]

Roleblocking didn't hurt the coin, either.

Ooo. So you know what you did? (Don't say who you targeted, just answer yes or no.)

Man, I am so much better than Arya Stark and Jon Snow at this game.

[Tierce]

Alchemist, why the Titus vote?

A wild combination of sheeping Nacho, losing faith in my scumread of SD (the reaction he gave was not in any way shape or form what I expected), and upon reread of Titus' ISO I am comfortable with lynching her toDay (this merits a longer explanation than I have time to write right now, but suffice it to say I think she's scum largely because all the shit she's been doing/asking has no discernible goal in mind other than to look busy).

Dear S,

Please go read some Titus games and compare player skill throughout before making this assessment.

Love,
T.

[Titus]

^^^ I want to know that as well.

I have never seen a permanent rber. It makes much more sense to include a vanillaizer than a permanent rber unless we are looking at a spree killer. Also why use it until you are convinced someone is not town aligned? Please don't take this as being hostile, I do believe the claim (can't see elle willing to be suicidal over it). Elle just makes sense as town. Were you compulsive n1 elle?


Someone else asked but I cannot find the quote. IDing everyone's social role helps me look for patterns. For instance, Benmage is the village oddball or evil spammer. He is thinking but not thinking in a manner many see or get. That is something I frequently fall into as well.


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Supposing elle's claim is true, then Tierce logically must move up the suspicion list. We have had nights without kills and someone who has been rbed the entire time possibly. Tierce, from the general tone of the group currently, is unlikely to be suspected much. Tiere isn't a bad choice to send for a kill.

[Nautilius]

Have you IDed everyone?

[Titus]

Tierce, if he thinks, I am scum, let him talk. I don't mind the heat. Plus, I am not a fan of meta.

[Titus]

Have you IDed everyone?

No. Town oddballs/evil spammers stick out like sore thumbs.

You are a social analytic type player who if I am right never gets fully trusted due to never having solid tells one way or the other.

[Tierce]

Except Tierce knew she was being roleblocked for all intents and purposes, and can prove it. Go look at my D2 opening (mis-aimed fury at Garruk, talks about permanency, etc.). Incidentally, I know what Garruk did and they're still Town.

Also why use it until you are convinced someone is not town aligned?

Silly question. Town players who get vig powers also use them and they are definitive. elle had no reason to claim at this point as scum, and much less in the way that she did, so.

And I couldn't care less that you don't like meta.

[Nautilius]

Tierce, give me 5 scum picks.

[Titus]

Will review this later. I have to go to a work site for a bit. Should be back wihin 5 hours. Now, I know to read the start of day 2 as a priority when this game dies diwn.

[Titus]

Naut, am I right on you?

[Nautilius]

Of course.

[Tierce]

I made a long post and then pushed the back key on my kindle. Drat.

Suffice to say, Titus, I knew Garruk had done something to me, realized they had done something else and were not a Town Rolestealer, and since I knew I had lost my abilities, I was obviously aware that last Night I couldn't have been the kill's target and had to reach through my gambit to unravel SD's claim. If I were blocked scum, I would have sat prettily on my BP claim and not bothered to be the first to interrogate him.

If scum had vanillized me N1, they knew I was BSing that multi BP claim and thus I wasn't the one who had been shot last Night because I'd be dead.

As it is, since I was not vanillized by SCUM on N1, I'm fairly sure I was already shot by them and that a missing kill last Night came from somewhere else.

Evidence that I was bulletproof? ISO me. I said I had time on D1 and was far too lax with things because I could afford to eat a kill. And they went and wasted a kill on me that early. <3

Nacho, I'm at a point where I need to review the game. I need sleep for two more hours and need to make space for visits after that. I'll go over this on the way into town.

[Messiah Complex]

So this SD wagon has run its course, right? And we can all get back to finding scum?

I'm still in the process of putting together a Spyrex analysis that should be fruitful.

Looks like Ooba beat me to the punch a little bit, at least as far as Quadz was concerned, and his response was super, super weak. Yes, opinions change--why are you making Ooba chase you for the reasons why when he's already made it clear that your change of opinion was scummy?

Vote: Quadz

- Des