In post 484, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote: In post 479, sangres wrote:
Experiential meta says something's off, but with 2 games (one of which was a relatively short interaction due to our both of us replacing in on day 3 of a newbie game, I'm not sure "off" translates to something alignment indicative. He's meta'd the crap out of me for both prior games, so I feel like he should be aware of the variance in both my solo and hydra play. I also don't think I've ever been BoP'ed to this extent in a game. OTOH with or without my presence in a hydra, Nacho is not an easy mislynch, so I have doubts that scum F-16 would push us/me to the extent he has as scum.
I can guess what you would say is "off" since my play is different from both games we played together. I don't like that you can't actually describe it. It is more like I have to make the connections myself, and figure out what it is that was different from this game compared to games we played together, and deduce that those differences are the ones you are picking up on.
responded to this last night.
You are also BoP'ing me to a large extent expecting me to know how you operate in a hydra etc. I meta'd most people in the HPCOS game and I don't think I'd be able to pin down differences in individual play vs hydra play for everyone in the game. I do remember reading two games as town where you hydra'd with Buldermar and Orcinus and in both of them, your behavior was similar to your town behavior. And the Xenologue game, your behavior was similar to here (where you let your partner take the lead).
I think the BoP stuff goes both ways, if that's what it is.
Maybe my expectations are OTT, but I don't feel they are. Not even Empire has written as extensively about my scum and town playstyle as you have. Re hydraing with Buldermar and Orcinus, you're talking about relatively early games when I wasn't playing as many simultaneous games as I do these days. In the Selkies games I usually wound up flying solo for extensive periods due to orcinus' availability. And hydraing with buldermar required pretty much full-time diplomacy efforts. Diplomacy is not exactly my forte. :/
What is throwing me off is that your scum-game actually improved to the point since Newbie 1415 to where it would difficult to determine your affiliation based on rudimentary things like activity level, pro-activeness, making cases, and whether you spend time questioning and sorting people. You can clearly do all those things as scum. The fact that you aren't doing it is throwing me off and making me wonder if I am scumhunting the wrong way entirely. I find it hard to buy that it is just the fact that you are in a hydra.
I thought you read the Rapture mini and the River City newbie games. I wish it weren't the case, but sometimes how my games go is pretty much ordained by how they start. I missed the start of this game, I got on your bad side from my first post, and I've been mostly sticking through it this week out of stubbornness. A reread this weekend when there's less going on irl will probably resolve most of that. And, what isn't resolved is going to wind up in my wifom bucket. Right now you're in my maybe-town, but not possible to work with pile. :/
I am also confused about why you are not explaining what it was that you intended to get with your conversation with Bulbazak earlier, and also your lack of interaction with me (or actually every player in the game). Most of the times where you interacted with a player were responses to interactions that the other player initiated.
I intended to get a read on bulba and learn whether I agree with Nacho about him.
I like to start with mundane questions and see where they lead. I'm pretty sure you said you read the Narnia micro that Rach moderated. goodmorning interrupted my questioning of BROseidon and I yelled at her. That was a case where it was a scum player stomping through my questioning of what turned out to be a townie. I am kinda watching for that sort of thing now, to see what alignments are more likely to break into another player's scumhunting.