Micro 256 ~ Bailey and Hunt's time is over. (Mafia Wins)

[Squirrel Girl]

Is this flailing, or are you just like this?
Because Monkey Joe says 'flailing' and he gave me an acorn.

[Malakittens]

Bailey - I have five rules. Memorize them. Rule number one: don't bother sucking up. I already hate you, that's not going to change.

2.02

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch

Voting:

*bazinga - T S O, Squirrel Girl [2]
*T S O - JacobSavage, Desperado [2]
*Desperado - ArcAngel9 [1]
*ArcAngel9 -
*penguin_alien -
*Squirrel Girl - bazinga [1]
*shos -
*JacobSavage -
*RationalMadman - penguin_alien [1]
*No Lynch - RationalMadman [1]

Not Voting:

shos [1]

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2013-11-21 16:22:00)

[bazinga]

Hey strangers - I'm Bert! Look forward to catching up and playing with y'all.

- Bert

[shos]

Holy shit guys 6 pages one nihht ill read when i wake up

[RationalMadman]

policy lynch the guy who posts just to say he needs to read... FILLERING!

VOTE: shos

[bazinga]

there is a question for you

answer it

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5443877
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p5444576


What else scummy am I doing?

I am not sure why you linked that cos it wasn't the question you dummy

jesus christ I fucking

bolded

it for you how much simpler can I make it

[Squirrel Girl]

You could just learn to be less rude and not demand a question be answered when you asked ten of them.

[Squirrel Girl]

So your big question was, basically, 'are you scum?'.
You're annoying, I'll be happy when you're dead and I don't even care what alignment you are.

[bazinga]

You could just learn to be less rude and not demand a question be answered when you asked ten of them.

I only asked 1 in bold

this isn't hard

I didn't ask 10 questions

and you were rude first so oh hai don't be a crybaby at the reaction

town read has plummeted.

[Squirrel Girl]

Feel free to show me where I insulted you or called you dumb. I didn't. You did. I wasn't rude, you are.

And, yes, you asked multiple questions in that post, I answered the one that looked legit where you asked for my reads because you said I hadn't offered opinions. I didn't realize 'are you scum?' was the core question and the cornerstone of your scumhunting.

[bazinga]

the laughing smilie was meant for ridicule, no?

I said the bolded 1. where I did not ask if you were scum (I don't even think that is what I said) but asked if you were from em.

cos it changes things

<--- do you see this bolded now? plz answer so I know that you have at least an elementary comprehension of the written word or at least the subtleties like bolding and italics.

[Squirrel Girl]

I was laughing because you said I hadn't given reads when I had. I wasn't sure what else to do to respond to that sort of accusation. Was I supposed to just call you names and move on? I laughed because that was my reaction in real life. If that equates to an equal reaction to what you said to me later...I dunno, I guess we just have different opinions of equal reactions there. I stand by the comment that you are rude, I think you are and I think you drastically elevated from what I did even if you did think the laugh smilie was to cause offense.

I do believe I have already answered that I was an alt and indicated lack of a desire to be meta read. That attitude has not changed. I'm not sure what more you expect on that front, I see no reason why my stance would have changed. The entire point of a hidden alt is to move away from past meta, so clearly I have little desire to help you meta me.

[bazinga]

I was laughing because you said I hadn't given reads when I had. I wasn't sure what else to do to respond to that sort of accusation. Was I supposed to just call you names and move on? I laughed because that was my reaction in real life. If that equates to an equal reaction to what you said to me later...I dunno, I guess we just have different opinions of equal reactions there. I stand by the comment that you are rude, I think you are and I think you drastically elevated from what I did even if you did think the laugh smilie was to cause offense.

I do believe I have already answered that I was an alt and indicated lack of a desire to be meta read. That attitude has not changed. I'm not sure what more you expect on that front, I see no reason why my stance would have changed. The entire point of a hidden alt is to move away from past meta, so clearly I have little desire to help you meta me.

I asked you for your reads on rat thing and tso.

I do not get firm stances from what you have posted on those 2 players.

my question is a yes or no question and it isn't for meta purposes. I have never played on em.

em players are for me something I don't want to deal with cos of the frustration level that goes along with it.

so if you are plz tell me now and I will respectfully bow out of this game.

[Squirrel Girl]

I asked you for your reads on rat thing and tso.

I do not get firm stances from what you have posted on those 2 players.

I noted actions, explained why I saw them as scummy, and have voted both of them at different parts. Are you getting the vibe that I have a strong town lean on them and it's confusing you? Because I feel like that's a pretty clear position from me towards them. I'll go ahead and clarify that I find both scummy, and will note that I now find you more scummy if that helps.

my question is a yes or no question and it isn't for meta purposes. I have never played on em.

em players are for me something I don't want to deal with cos of the frustration level that goes along with it.

so if you are plz tell me now and I will respectfully bow out of this game.

If you think I look like an EM player then you should back out because I'm going to keep looking like this. If you think I don't then you should stay because I'll keep not looking like it. I don't see how me saying yes or no is going to change the perception or the stress level one way or the other.

[bazinga]

some people just start off really dumb. they have the potential to wise up as the game progresses with new info. fresh faced em players don't, they have a ridiculous overestimation of their skill level and they do incredibly dumb things like ignore a viable game-winning strategy and try to lynch the person who suggested it.

that is why they are not fun to play with.

don't get me wrong there are some fantastic em players, empire, molla, anka are just a few there are many more. <---- what makes them great is the flexibility of their thought processes and they are able to follow logic.

so since you refuse to answer my question I will show you the same courtesy and support any other player who does it.

are you going to provide evidence of my scumminess? or are you just going to continue to derp and miss the beautiful opportunity to lynch 1 of the 2 players who do not want town to get organised? <------ that is an authentic scumtell btw, scum hate it when town get organised and do their best to try to disperse the town herd and they rely on VI's to help them do that.

so are you a VI? if not then why are you helping them?

[Squirrel Girl]

I called you scummy for hypocrisy. That's my evidence and I pointed it out in how you reacted differently to Rational and TSO. I also think you're only starting to talk up Rational scum again now that I've pointed it out.
You also continue to be pretty rude.

[T S O]

mollie is rude in general, consider it a playstyle tell.

lemme look back.

[bazinga]

I called you scummy for

hypocrisy

. That's my evidence and I pointed it out in how you reacted differently to Rational and TSO. I also think you're only starting to talk up Rational scum again now that I've pointed it out.
You also continue to be pretty rude.

I don't quite think you understand what that word means since contextually you are misapplying it.

rat thing and tso are 2 different players. responses to them will be different cos...they are 2 different players.

this is like trying to explain the colour green.

having said that

your evidence was refuted when it was pointed out by 2 people that I was voting rat thing at the time I switched my vote to tso. <---- I am good with lynching either 1 but I am giving rat thing a bit of room cos he might just be trolling. <---- I also believe I already explained this.

if you don't want me to treat you like a dummy then stop acting like 1. set your emotions aside and look at the game objectively and then ask yourself "should I follow a strategy that has been proven to work?" and then play towards your wc not scum's.

@ penny & desp

is she derp town or scum? I genuinely can't tell.

[Squirrel Girl]

I don't quite think you understand what that word means since contextually you are misapplying it.

rat thing and tso are 2 different players. responses to them will be different cos...they are 2 different players.

They committed the same base tell. They both admitted to levels of trolling. You reacted totally differently to each and used trolling as a defense of one and an accusation against the other. I feel that does qualify my use of hypocrisy. I can call it 'uneven application of a tell on two highly similar situations so that I think she was faking her anger in one of them and doesn't actually believe what she's saying' instead and don't feel it changes my point.

your evidence was refuted when it was pointed out by 2 people that I was voting rat thing at the time I switched my vote to tso. <---- I am good with lynching either 1 but I am giving rat thing a bit of room cos he might just be trolling. <---- I also believe I already explained this.

My evidence didn't change when it was pointed out you were voting Rational, and I am pretty certain I already explained why for that one as well. I agree that you gave a trolling excuse to Rational, I would note I asked you why you didn't do the same to TSO who also admitted to trolling, and you didn't answer me.

if you don't want me to treat you like a dummy then stop acting like 1. set your emotions aside and look at the game objectively and then ask yourself "should I follow a strategy that has been proven to work?" and then play towards your wc not scum's.

How am I not following the strategy? I thought it was about agreeing to target a given target - I wasn't aware it involved not thinking you are scum or anything like that.

is she derp town or scum? I genuinely can't tell.

So now you're going to just continue to try and downplay my suspicion without addressing it. I really feel good about this lynch now.

[Squirrel Girl]

mollie is rude in general, consider it a playstyle tell.

I can agree that she's rude, and will happily believe she is always this rude. That doesn't affect my hypocrisy tell on her - do you have an opinion about that? Is she always hypocritical?

[Desperado]

I'm not sure yet either. Leaning the former?

PEdit: Squirrel quote where bazinga was angry please

[Desperado]

nobody knows what kind of doctor they are you dummy so there is no "claiming real doc"

if you were town you would know that

You think Rational's lack of setup comprehension is different? I ask because I'd like to understand why you're full on torpedo on one, and didn't really even comment on the other.

This was your original question. You say that Bazinga hasn't really even commented on Rational's lack of setup comprehension when she pretty clearly had. Everything from here on is based on your original, incorrect assumption.

Let's get back to lynching TSO

[Squirrel Girl]

I'm not sure yet either. Leaning the former?

Nuts to you

PEdit: Squirrel quote where bazinga was angry please

Okie-dokie.

what is funny is that I had majiffy on the ropes in the first game but let him go for *reasons* for making a similar mistake

not gonna do it this time

That is a solid statement coming from issues from a previous game. That said, when Bazinga does this she is 'letting go' of Rational, who had done the same thing. I guess for *reasons*. Also, she didn't bring up this past issue when voting Rational, so if it was hot on her head, why not mention it. She barely even discussed why Rational was scum, here's the grand total of her commentary about that slot;

yeah I see. I think your right non that rat thing being scum and it looks like arc is his scummate what say you

Bazinga didn't even clarify that there was any debate between them and the levels of them committing the same tell until I flat out called her on it. I really think it is all fake scumhunting and that she is retconning what she did to try to make sense with what she has done and there are holes in it.

Where do you see me going wrong enough on this that I am either just dumb or scum?

[bazinga]

where did either of them admit to trolling. I am *guessing* that rat thing is

and since you are making a thing of it where did tso admit to trolling before I voted him?

jesus fucking christ

eat: can I just troll squirrel girl out of the game

[Desperado]

She wasn't letting go of anything. Looks to me like she thought they were both scum. No?