NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Guyett]

Don't get goaded into voting for people just because they are dicks to you.

I'm voting for him as he's scum... the fact he's being a dick to me is a bonus

[Guyett]

well this is possibly a first... I got angry and I'm not even drunk (yet) :/

[Angry Frat BROs]

Hurling homophobic insults at the gay guys.

Keep it classy.

[Angry Frat BROs]

Dear Cephrir,

I never left. The guy you replaced, Rank, is my brother from another mother. We've been playing mafia together for like 10 years. Him replacing out means he was scum. Means you are scum. You should tread carefully, because between you and FratBoys, I've got two mafia and its still early on D1

wtf you'd take this bullshit at face value?

The eff are you smoking Nacho.

Why would I ignore it?

Because he's failed to substantiate the claim despite being asked multiple times by multiple people.

[TheIrishPope]

BRO, you're gay too? I thought only AP was

[Guyett]

Hurling homophobic insults at the gay guys.

Keep it classy.

Wasn't intended as homophobic and I apologize if it came across that way.
However calling me a retard isn't appreciated.

[Guyett]

BRO, you're gay too? I thought only AP was

This is what I thought too

[Angry Frat BROs]

I've mentioned it multiple times in the speakeasy forum, as well as in several game threads.

[Guyett]

I feel really bad now. I'll replace out if you want

[sangres]

just be nicer to each other?

[Angry Frat BROs]

Don't replace out. I'm also really angry right now.

I'm taking a step back and not posting here for a bit.

[goodmorning]

just be nicer to each other?

JUST BE NICER TO EACH OTHER

YOUR MOD HAS SPOKEN

Votecount 1.36

JacobSavage [L-5] - MC Maraca, Cephrir, Hermy, Angry Frat BROs

Angry Frat BROs [L-6] - likeabauss, Toomai, Guyett

orcinus_theoriginal [L-6] - Sakura Hana, sangres, TheIrishPope

Guyett [L-8] - PeregrineV

Hermy [L-8] - RadiantCowbells

Sakura Hana [L-8] - orcinus_theoriginal

MC Maraca [L-8] - yessiree

Not Voting [3] - JacobSavage, caledfwitch, MVP

With 17 alive, it takes

9

to lynch. The day will end in (expired on 2013-11-20 09:39:00)

Toomai is V/LA through 11/9.

[sangres]

2) There's a difference between being excited to play with people you like and stroking them/your history to position yourself. Examples:
A) Hey guys, wicked pumped to be here. Hi5! Let's wreck some scum. (This says, let's play mafia and have fun)
B) Hey guys, happy to be here! Don't screw up like last time and misread me. (This is preempetive positioning. You're cautioning them to be slow and deliberate with their reads on you, and broadcasting to the player base that those players haven't read you well in the past.)
Your "excitement" reeks of example B and its a highly suspect maneuver in my opinion. Its nuance, but there it is.

I don't mind when people go a bit excessive to past game references when it was an exceptional past game experience; the game in question was a game where I was screaming like a crazy person to get AP lynched, we danced a beautiful dance with both of us convinced the other was scum, and AP died. It was a hell of a game, and I don't see him trying to shake my confidence in reading him with cheap bullshit tactics like that.

As in its scummy on him for ignoring you or are you just being a troll?

It's scummy for him to ignore me when I push on him, although slow Jacob reactions wouldn't exactly be a surprise.

Heh, I was starting to feel good on Cabd. Im terrible at reading Mara, but Cabd feels a bit carefree/genuine in this game. Not seeing the same direct, forceful Crabd from NY 165.

The aggressive yessiree = scum case with no scum meta made ffery a bit paranoid. Don't know what to think of him quite yet.

Well Im waiting cute boy, lets hear about me then.

I like your entrance!

Good wagon is good
VOTE: guyett

I didn't like this. The "I'm gonna claim scum and then act really anti-town" bit doesn't really mesh with the whole "I'm finally into the game, I'm going to kick ass" mindset he had pretty much three pages ago.

Ffery, are you intentionally blind to this Guyett wagon or what?

Why was Guyett such a strong scumread here?

Is it just me or is this WIFOM tho

What's your read on ffery so far?

read all the games you want... links are on my wiki (I updated it yesterday) but I fnd playing a game with someone is much better than reading a game as you are kinda biased reading.
I have absolutely no prob with you meta reading me... just do it and get some opinions of people who have played with me too maybe. Apparently I have some tell that Nat, Cabd and GM know :/

I see AP's point about discrediting meta reads on him. This in particular looks like he's expecting AP to scumread him after the meta dives and is preemptively covering his ass just in case.

You seriously calling Guyett scum because of AtE?

I would like to take you back to Mother bangers, Pigey.

I have literally no idea what Mara's trying to say here, which means that she's maybe town?

I really dont get this. You dont have any reason for thinking JS over Guyett (except you liked ffery's point, ok). Guyett is still plausible scum, why are you analyzing his wagon in itty bitty pieces then and trying to throw doubt on it?

See this is pretty much the opposite of Cephrir's scum play.

The preachy ex-Bronco who now plays for Canada (eh)

Sorry but you have to know how to pass to play in the league up here.

Guyett does seem too easy a lynch right now.

Unvote

Leaning towards voting JacobSavage, just to make him do something.

Guyett's too easy of a lynch, but JS wasn't?

Pistol Pete Maravich? I hope.

FWIW, this read is a bit bullshit and I feel bad for it, but I can't ignore it. That said, here's the deal with the Rank read:

As a player, Rank doesn't like being scum. But he loves being town. His scum game isn't that good, and it's less exciting for him. But, the best part of the game for Rank as town? D1. He loves it. I love it. We thrive on it. D1 reads and lynching is what separates the men from the boys in our opinions/world. We have probably hundreds of hours bullshitting and talking about D1 reads, psychology, sociology, profiles, maneuvers, etc etc. It's LITERALLY the highlight of the game for us as players. And the source of much bragging or shit talking in post game chats.

So, Rank's early play seemed townish to me. There wasn't much to go on, but it seemed typical. He stays light until stuff develops (much like I do), dropping the occasional potshot or poking the bear when he sees a chance. But him replacing out? 100% scum move. As town, he'd have lingered, read, contributed when he could and stuck around through D1 at least. Bought some time. As scum? He wouldn't want to gimp his team, he'd bail quickly and early to give them the best chance at victory. Which he did here. Town play doesn't require as much activity as scum play to be successful. You read, you think, you post, and come and go as you can. Example: Rank just recently detail read a 100 page D1 of a game in under a 24 hour period and started slinging reads and opinions instantly. Why? How? It was D1. SuperBowl Sunday. Bases loaded, 2 outs, full count, down by 3 in the bottom of the 9th.

Rank's slot is scum. But, I picked up on the FratBoys scum slot before Rank's, hence why my vote is on him and why I want to lynch FratBoys first then Rank's slot second. Some details on my FratBoys read coming up...

I liked this post!

It's one of the signature posts I make when I think somebody is spouting a theory that is shit/baseless/unconfirmable. I can link you past instances of its use if you wish. I've stalked you and rank playing together, I've read your TV hydrae games.

Show me why you think it's baseless. Mollie's pegged ffery Day 1 because she used the wrong word, so I've certainly seen weirder meta reads that were still on point as fuck.

I'm liking orincus as town right now.

Why?

the fact that you are basing it off something so basic as "him replacing out means he is scum" isn't enough for me to drop Rank/APro down to scum.

Did you confuse some people in this quote?

Are you caught up?

Sakura is keeping her cards a lot closer than she used to. Nacho will probably have a stronger opinion than I do, but I liked her push on you, and I like that she called bauss out for not going after his strongest read.

you are talking to me

so i'm assuming you disagree with sakura's push?

and for the love of god I CALLED BAUSS OUT for that and she parroted


fuck this game

It's hard to follow you when you're not doing shit. The fact that ffery didn't scream at me when I was like "can we sit our vote on orci for a little while" is a bad, bad sign.

2. I don't mind being a townread, but based on what you put there, you're reading this hydra based on a person who only posted like 5 posts. Why not read based on my post?

Ffery had you pegged by page 3 or some crazy shit like that. I followed up and confirmed thanks to a tiny hint you left in your posts . She's feeling pretty smug about it.

Likeabuss's claim to be able to read Rank seems town as fuck, however I'm not sure how valid his read is.

Why not trust it?

sangres seems to have a hard on for me, not sure why, must be so pretty.

Why did you ask me to write up a case on you and then ignore my efforts when I posted them?

Hermy- beautiful, fragile flower

This read came as a hell of a surprise. Why are you townreading that beautiful fragile flower?

[Cephrir]

It could just be a Hermy tell, but I find the vulnerability pretty genuine.

[sangres]

Hey Cabd, you know what's making me a little nervout?

[RadiantCowbells]

VOTE: Angry Frat Br0s

I think Orcinus is town and I follow his reasoning.

This guy is way too defensive in his own right, so my vote goes here.

[yessiree]

Frat Bros get mad when called dicks

but it's okay for them to call others retards and assholes

#logic

[Angry Frat BROs]

Frat Bros get mad when called dicks

but it's okay for them to call others retards and assholes

#logic

NO

NO

FUCK YOU

SORRY GM AND NACHO, THIS IS FUCKING INEXCUSABLE.

I DIDN'T GET UPSET THAT HE CALLED ME A DICK. THAT'S NOT WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED

GUYETT INSULTED ME USING A HOMOPHOBIC INSULT, WHICH CUTS PRETTY DEEP BECAUSE SOME OF US HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE SHIT THAT COMES WITH BEING GAY ON A DAILY BASIS

YOU'RE SO FUCKING INTENT ON PUSHING MY MISLYNCH, THAT YOU'RE GOING TO FUCKING MISREP WHAT HAPPENED IN A CONVERSATION THAT MOVED OUT OF THE GAME?

NO

FUCK YOU

THERE'S NO FUCKING WAY YOU'RE TOWN.

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[Toomai]

V/LA done.

I'll vote for whichever of o_to or AFB is necessary to lynch, since I believe fairly solidy at this point that likeabauss is town. If either target happens to be town we can just lynch him Day 2 since I see no way there's a bus here.

[Hermy]

Y'know what likeabauss? Fine. You'll get what you want. If Orci flips scum then... well done. If he flips town then you get lynched. Alright?

VOTE: Orci

[likeabauss]

Y'know what likeabauss? Fine. You'll get what you want. If Orci flips scum then... well done. If he flips town then you get lynched. Alright?

VOTE: Orci

Thanks man! But I'm actually pushing to lynch AngryFratBros for today. Orci is also scum, but FratBoys goes first in my book.

[yessiree]

SNIP

First, what a blatant misrep, that's not the purpose of my post. I'm not trying to push your lynch, I'm not even voting you. I already expressed my thought on you in 1097

Second, don't assume I'm the same as your kind that I can differentiate between what insults to homophobic people cut deep and what insults do not.

Third, the purpose of my post is to point out how obvious of a hypocrite you're being. Do you not admit that you've been using words that clearly trigger red flags to insult people, that you think you have the right to be pissy mad when the favour is returned to you?

In addition, I had initially tagged your rage with town, but now you're making me second guessing myself. I'm beginning to suspect that your rage fake.

I'm good at spotting nuances and reading the mood of posts to determine if they are genuine. Be cautious.

[Hermy]

I'm liking orincus as town right now.

Why?
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Well, I WAS reading Orci as town before that stupid scummy-as-hell rage thing. Just because... I liked his posts. They looked like out-of-the-ordinary-town posts.
(awful reasoning, I know.)

[Hermy]

Whoops, screwed up the quote tag

[Hermy]

Y'know what likeabauss? Fine. You'll get what you want. If Orci flips scum then... well done. If he flips town then you get lynched. Alright?

VOTE: Orci

Thanks man! But I'm actually pushing to lynch AngryFratBros for today. Orci is also scum, but FratBoys goes first in my book.

Alright then.

VOTE: AngryFratBros

Let's just hope this read of yours is correct. I'm almost 100% sure you're town, so hopefully you won't get lynched the next day...