Marketplace Mafia III - Game Over

[Espeonage]

what's amish

It's when you replace in and go, wow my slot was scummy.

I didn't mean what I said in that way, more in a, "this goes against the game's town actions for the rest of the game, what do."

[Espeonage]

On that note, I might have to go an have a proper skim of day 2.

[Voidedmafia]

wow.. shut up voided.

No. Point to me where Esp looks like he's fence-sitting.

[Seanald]

can't lol, totally read his post wrong.

apologies espe

[Seanald]

and to you voided

[Ghostly Penguin]

Much as I dislike NC nit-picking zMuffin for misremembering their mutual game history, the rest of his posts aren't pinging scum to me. It looks closer to his town play.

Prohawk tossing out alternatives to himself in the page 107 range came off really lousy on first read through.

Amish tell aside, I don't see the scum motivation for calling attention to your predecessor's bad play here when no one else did. Espeonage isn't trying to curry favor with people who were scum reading his slot, as they apparently didn't exist.

UNVOTE: Nero Cain

I think Ghostlin and I can find a better use for our vote. (The lack of synching up is my fault, BTW, and should be getting fixed.)

--PA

[Lost Butterfly]

I guess there's one way to answer that: upside down and ProHawk, how much did you advertise Cop and Gravedigger for?

$15 for Gravedigger
$30 for Doc

Morph, I really need that Meta-Dive from you soon.

You advertised Doctor when Doctor was already up for auction?

Also, that's annoying. None of Banakai's actions are 100% confirmed now (since he claimed Commuter after it had already shown up). Agree with Garuda that the spread of abilities looks townish, though.

Also also, sorry, Harakiri (not that another neighbourizer advertisement claim changes things at this point). I can't do the same thing with the N1 advertisements until we see what abilities show up on N2.

@Lost- Would like to see your N1 advertisements conclusions since we saw the abilities that showed up n2.

Also, your scumlist please.

The N1 advertisements are almost completely useless, because everything left showed up last night except for Tracker, every ability was accounted for (at least, I'm taking people's word for it, since I didn't keep track of the claims myself), no one claimed to have advertised less than the $5 Muffin spent on Tracker, and Muffin himself said he might have advertised a protown ability as scum. I don't think there's much point in analyzing the claims, either, because advertising whatever you promised D1 was null. You're outed if you pocket the money and the ability you were responsible for is removed from the list.

It's interesting that DoctorPepper thought it was safe to claim to advertise Tracker, but either he just chose a random protown ability, or Muffin is LH whose team spent the $5 (and Muffin posted something that could have been a RH slip earlier). So again, useless.

However, thanks for reminding me of something, PeregrineV!

Before we lynch, everyone claim what they advertised on N2.

(I advertised nothing last night, because I had a better use for my funds.)

I'll save the scum list for another post for readability. At the time, I'd already said was Nero/ProHawk/KingdomAces, but now a lot of my reads are in flux.

[Espeonage]

Jacob put 5 each on cop, tracker, wage freeze and watcher.

[Espeonage]

I'm also entirely happy with a muffin quicklynch after everything's set for tonight.

[Lost Butterfly]

I'd CTRL+X'd my post on suspects, but accidentally overwrote it in my clipboard, so this first:

So just looked it up. I was asking that question for a purpose.

The fact that my slot never got slammed means something weird is going on consdering almost all the lynches have been pushed, as a starting reason, for being lurkish and inactive.
Day 1 that happens, day 2 a scum got hit, and day three, the slot doing the worst lurking got pretty much nothing. That leads me to believe, given that I'm town, that alot of bussing happened on the Dr. Pepper wagon otherwise stuff starts to not make sense.

If nero is town, which I think he is, that means even more likely that scum was on Dr. pepper unless my skim of the early parts of today was incorrect.

Not that it really matters, but your slot WAS wagoned on D2. In fact, people even suggested

quicklynching

Klick (before he pulled the shameless self-vote + fake-replace-out/fake-replace-in/real-replace-out routine). Did you remember that but decide it didn't count? Also, why do you seem so focused on your predecessors and the reactions they got? Why not ask why we didn't wagon Zdenek, Banakai, or guille?

[morph the cat]

Before we lynch, everyone claim what they advertised on N2.

We advertised nothing.

[Lost Butterfly]

Jacob put 5 each on cop, tracker, wage freeze and watcher.

Nothing on doctor?

[Espeonage]

Jacob put 5 each on cop, tracker, wage freeze and watcher.

Nothing on doctor?

Yeah, sorry. I didn't copy paste from the PM I got, missed it.

[Espeonage]

I'd CTRL+X'd my post on suspects, but accidentally overwrote it in my clipboard, so this first:

So just looked it up. I was asking that question for a purpose.

The fact that my slot never got slammed means something weird is going on consdering almost all the lynches have been pushed, as a starting reason, for being lurkish and inactive.
Day 1 that happens, day 2 a scum got hit, and day three, the slot doing the worst lurking got pretty much nothing. That leads me to believe, given that I'm town, that alot of bussing happened on the Dr. Pepper wagon otherwise stuff starts to not make sense.

If nero is town, which I think he is, that means even more likely that scum was on Dr. pepper unless my skim of the early parts of today was incorrect.

Not that it really matters, but your slot WAS wagoned on D2. In fact, people even suggested

quicklynching

Klick (before he pulled the shameless self-vote + fake-replace-out/fake-replace-in/real-replace-out routine). Did you remember that but decide it didn't count? Also, why do you seem so focused on your predecessors and the reactions they got? Why not ask why we didn't wagon Zdenek, Banakai, or guille?

I haven't actually read day 2 yet. I did iso Magua to see the wagons and yeah I saw it. I assumed it was based on the self vote, so I figured it wasn't for the lurking, not being there stuff, which truth be told I was basing on Jacob's 3(?) posts in day 3 before I came in.

[Lost Butterfly]

Dammit, Espeonage. I thought I'd found a smoking gun and got all excited:

I sent $150 to pieguyn.

Advatised $25 on everything said.

Kept $50 because klick spent nothing.

Aren't I a good townie

[Lost Butterfly]

ok. is that it? your argument with mhork is not why i thought you were scum (the only reason it's become a conversation point is because

you

made a big deal out of it as a sticking point). the main reasons i think you're scum are that your contributions to the game, when you actually make contributions, are weak as shit.

D1 your arguments for thinking harakiri was scum were bad (and i broke these down towards the end of D1) and apart from the harakiri read,i don't remember any contributions from you D1 worth noting. D2 was much of the same, except now you're either calling everyone attacking you scum or you've downgraded them to null reads. even if it's you we're talking about here, the fact you have no scum reads outside the people wagoning you is hilarious.

Here's muffin saying that my case on Hara is scummy.

If I weren't so lazy I could quote you where my cases are called shitty all the time. Its a really lazy point to begin with but you thinking that's a scumtell, much less a scumtell for me, is pants on head.

it isn't about the quality of your case, it's about how it was dismantled at the end of D1 and you still pushing it when it was nonsensical.

Here's were he says it was not scummy but then says my continued pushing is scummy.

The fact Muffin is whining about it prob means its a scum slot. What Voided did was scummy as fuck so that's what we are killing today.

Nero: Muffin backtracked
Voided: Muffins backtrack is suspicious
Muffin: ZOMG!! Nero tampered with my post.
Voided: Yep Nero tampered with that

He obviously doesn't give a shit and is just agreeing with whatever is said.

It pains me to say this, but Nero is actually dead-on about Voided.

The whole argument about Muffin's reasons for suspecting him is irrelevant and based on semantics. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that at some point this game, Muffin has attacked Nero for clinging to his Harakiri stance for too long.

I've

attacked Nero for that, at any rate. And it doesn't matter if in one cherry-picked post, Muffin calls Nero scum for having bad reasons to tunnel on Harakiri as opposed to bad

and

static reasons. I hate that Nero is pushing that angle.

HOWEVER, in that particular post, Muffin doesn't say anything about Nero's Harakiri read being static. The other stuff that Nero didn't quote are reasons Muffin suspects him, but NOT reasons that are related to Harakiri.

So Voided doing a 180 and latching onto Muffin's tampering accusation without any critical thinking is lazy.

(On that note, there's stuff I want to say about Muffin, but I'll probably save it for tomorrow. The short version is that I'm paranoid of him, because some of the aggression and condescension in his pushes seems overblown.)

I liked that Ghostly Penguin had no motivation as scum to unvote NC when they did (at least, assuming Nero is not on their scumteam). That said, penguin_alien, what games have you played with Nero? What similarities do you see to his town game? ("This is closer to Nero's town meta" seems to be an oft-parroted opinion this game. I've been too lazy to read his games myself and see if it's based on truth, since Garuda is a meanie who didn't hand them to me on a platter.) And what happened to Ghostlin's hyperbolic statements about Nero's play being the lurkiest, most useless thing ever?

In other news, Espeonage is town.

[Lost Butterfly]

I'm too tired to rewrite my reads post, and it was mostly just wishy-washy garbage, anyway. So I'll just say that morph and Garuda are town, Mhork is still probably town, I need to ask Faraday why he was so confident on PeregrineV being town, my baldeagle town read is losing its muster, pieguy is a dark horse scumspect, I still like upside down and think the N0 cop advertisement is a big point in their favour but have some paranoia just because of some posts whose only motivation is to troll and Quilford taking a back seat, and I'm not really feeling the Harakiri paranoia.

[KingdomAces]

Mostly just a prod dodge. I know that deadline is really soon, so I'll finish up everything I need to do today within 24 hours. I think all I need to say right now is that I advertised 5$ on each of the five abilities listed last night.

[zMuffinMan]

The short version is that I'm paranoid of him, because some of the aggression and condescension in his pushes seems overblown

*shrug* nero voted me for not remembering a game i played with him. i originally thought he was joking but his responses to gp suggest he was serious about it. try to respond to someone like that without being condescending. if anything, i think i've showed great restraint.

[Lost Butterfly]

Shouldn't you wait to hear what I was going to say before defending yourself from it, Muffin?

Speaking of people who lack critical thinking: anyone who advertised Tracker last night because "that was the plan." I could have used those four dollars, jerks.

[Magua]

Vote Count 3.16

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

VoidedMafia (5): 1baldeagle1, uʍop ǝpısdn, ProHawk, Nero Cain, Seanald
Nero Cain (4): zMuffinMan, Lord Mhork, Harakiri, VoidedMafia
KingdomAces (3): Garuda, BBmolla, morph the cat
Seanald (2): pieguyn, PeregrineV
ProHawk (1): Lost Butterfly
zMuffinMan (1): Espeonage

Not Voting (2): KingdomAces, Ghostly Penguin

Deadline for Day 3 is Tuesday, November 12th, at 3:00pm EST (site time).
Countdown to deadline:

(expired on 2013-11-12 15:00:00)

[zMuffinMan]

Shouldn't you wait to hear what I was going to say before defending yourself from it, Muffin?

no? if you weren't referring to the nero stuff, then i dunno what you were referring to, and if you were referring to the nero stuff, then you should read nero's posts and try to keep a straight face.

[Voidedmafia]

So Voided doing a 180 and latching onto Muffin's tampering accusation without any critical thinking is lazy.

When I originally said he was backtracking, I was doing it off memory. When muffin claimed there was tampering, I went back to see if my own accusation was correct and found it to be false. It helped that I agree with what muffin said.

[1baldeagle1]

I advertised 5 on each of the stuff on that plan.

I'm ready to end the day, really nothing else to do. Although, I can take a look at Seanald, but I can always do that during the night.

Do we do the plan again tonight, morph?

[pieguyn]

so are we lynching Voided or what

I'd be fine with that and the Seanald wagon isn't going anywhere

vote: Voided

btw I seriously don't get where all the scumreads on KingdomAces are coming from. all I saw were people quoting posts and voting him without much of an explanation. can someone plz explain/link it?