Mini 1515: Touhou Imperishable Night (Game Over)

[waynegg]

And yet again, if you thought that mastin was scum

Why were you voting thez?

Or we can JUST lynch this. Because it's soooooooooooo improbable to have more than one scum read...

[morph the cat]

I don't understand your comment re lynching us. BoP?

[BROseidon]

(in b4 I have to point out that I'm allowed to have multiple scumreads because scum are going to push the "BUT YOU WEREN'T VOTING HIM" angle)

And yet again, if you thought that mastin was scum

Why were you voting thez?

[BROseidon]

I can't even

[waynegg]

I don't understand your comment re lynching us. BoP?

[Varsoon]

Hey, idiots, I'm town.

How many votes are on me now?

Anyway, I've got no choice but to believe that my wagon has some scum on it.
I also really like Mastin's rationale/posts, but I'm torn because I also love the work that BRO is doing.

Morph, Mac, and Wayne are my scum-picks right now. Various degrees of scumminess here, though.
I'm curious of zmon and TNE and wonder why they are so silent right now. They usually talk their heads off.

Morph's been suspicious since the game started and while I've waffled a bit internally on him, I've got him as null-lean-scum.
Wayne's been pushing whatever wagon he can try to get off the ground. He's obv-scum in my book.
Mac's push on me has some pretty scummy elements to it that I'll get to down the line. Null-lean-scum.

@Pieguy

: You say I'm as bad as SSK? He was obv-town and you shot him. Your sheep of Mac reads as a poor attempt at vengeance for my early push on you, -or- an attempt to get me to post more.

@Morph

: Continue reading for why I voted for Mac. Big posts + Votes on me aren't inherently scummy, but failure to realize that this is exactly how I played in Open 604 and pushing a weakly rationalized wagon is kinda totally lame.

@Mac

: Your initial logic for voting me was to cite posts/votes made by the Metal Sonic head of my previous Hydra? That's a poor appeal to make. I was voting you for that, but even if I said so, most players would chalk up my vote as an OMGUS, so I saved the idiots the trouble of foaming at the mouth. You also said that I dropped off Pie's wagon when I realized he was town. No shit. How is that a scum move? If I was scum, wouldn't I -know- Pie were town all along? Also, don't fucking underestimate me. If I -needed- to look like I was doing something, it'd be a shitload more convincing that the trite that I've posted. The game where you don't suspect Varsoon is the fucking worst one because it means my scheme is working, because I actually have one. There's no agenda this game, because I'm town, and I don't need to look town, or play town, or do anything town at all. All I need to do is find scum, and I can take my time doing so. That said, your push on me is pretty fucking flimsy, relies on appealing to meta (WRONGLY, in some cases, given you're referencing Metal Sonic's play and not mine) in order to curry votes from other players who were just in Xenogears with us. Also, speaking of scum -looking- like they're doing something, this is exactly what I see you doing here, which makes for a funny case of projecting that you're up to.

VOTE: Mac


Everyone should join me in voting Mac. Dude's scummy.

[pieguyn]

@Pieguy: You say I'm as bad as SSK? He was obv-town and you shot him. Your sheep of Mac reads as a poor attempt at vengeance for my early push on you, -or- an attempt to get me to post more.

you conveniently left out the part where

I've been scumreading you the whole game far before Mac came up with his scumread on you

incorrect plz try again

[Varsoon]

Why are you scum-reading me?

Also, if you've been scum-reading me this whole time, why haven't you been voting me this whole time AND pushing for my lynch?

[pieguyn]

And yet again, if you thought that mastin was scum

Why were you voting thez?

why is every single one of your posts saying something BRO did is scummy? this is Varsoon all over again. you're not focusing on anything besides painting him as scummy

[Varsoon]

@Pieguy: You say I'm as bad as SSK? He was obv-town and you shot him.

Your sheep of Mac reads as a

poor attempt at vengeance for my early push on you

, -or- an attempt to get me to post more.

plz try again

[BROseidon]

(in b4 I have to point out that I'm allowed to have multiple scumreads because scum are going to push the "BUT YOU WEREN'T VOTING HIM" angle)

And yet again, if you thought that mastin was scum

Why were you voting thez?

^For Varsoon.

Can we stop the "IF YOU THINK I'M SCUM, Y U NO VOTE ME" bullshit. If you're scum and pushing it: stop, it's not going to work. If you're town: get your head out of your ass and learn to play the fucking game.

[pieguyn]

Why are you scum-reading me?

Also, if you've been scum-reading me this whole time, why haven't you been voting me this whole time AND pushing for my lynch?

this is the same shit as TNE

why the hell should I have been voting you this whole time? arguments based explicitly on votes only are invalid and this is not a scumtell. yes I was scumreading you, but I wanted to move my vote around to place pressure on others, while simultaneously scumreading you. you are grasping at straws

it's pretty obvious based on my posts why I'm scumreading you

[waynegg]

Just tell me when to hammer

[Varsoon]

@Pieguy: I think there's a difference between painting something as scummy and inferring it as such. That said, my early case on you was heavily biased, and the harder I pushed it, the more I was convinced that you were scum. For a point of reference on this, look at my early push on Amrun in Death's Diner and my early push on Zoidberg in Calvin and Hobbes (I believed he was on the opposite team as me, so the push was genuine).

Am I that close to being hammered?

[waynegg]

L-1

[waynegg]

Pshh. Only scum doesn't have to read

VOTE: Varsoon

[pieguyn]

-I point out scummy thing you've done.
-I admit said scummy thing, I've also done.
-You say I'm admitting to doing scummy thing.
-Thus, you're admitting said scummy thing is scummy.
-Thus, you are admitting to doing said scummy thing.

by your own logic, admitting to it doesn't make it scummy?

I have no idea what the hell mastin was talking about. still liking a Varsoon vote tho

[pieguyn]

well that was fast holy shit

[Varsoon]

this is the same

shit

as TNE

why the hell should I have been voting you this whole time?

arguments based explicitly on votes only are invalid

and this is not a scumtell. yes I was scumreading you, but I wanted to move my vote around to place pressure on others, while simultaneously scumreading you.

you are grasping at straws

it's pretty obvious based on my posts why I'm scumreading you[/quote]

I bolded all the things that show bias.
My argument isn't based explicitly on votes. I was wondering why you didn't continue to push my wagon. Pressuring other players is a fine response, but, honestly, it's far more town to have conviction (in my book).

Please, tell me again why you're scum-reading me. I want to read a good, collected rationale for why you're doing so. Don't just defer to earlier posts. Summarize it here.

[Varsoon]

Pshh. Only scum doesn't have to read

VOTE: Varsoon

HOLY FUCK YOU STUPID BASTARD

I'm 2-shot 2-player Doctor. I'm the best fucking role in this whole game. I already full claimed in post 604 in a quote. Anyone pushing my lynch is a fucking idiot, and I made my crumb obvious as all hell, ESPECIALLY recently.

[morph the cat]

Shutup and readslist asap, if youre town, varsoon. bork is online and youre hammered.

[Varsoon]

I hate all of you right now.
No pizza for anyone.
Fuck you all.

[morph the cat]

hmmm, 6/10

[Varsoon]

Shutup and readslist asap, if youre town, varsoon. bork is online and youre hammered.

1. BROseidon TOWN
2. Ghostly Penguin (Ghostlin + penguin_alien) NULL
3. Mac SCUM
5. mastin2 TOWN
6. Morph the Cat (fferyllt + Cabd) LEAN SCUM
7. pieguyn LEAN TOWN
8. Psychlone (GuyInFreezer + Nachomamma8) NULL LEAN TOWN
9. thenewearth LEAN SCUM
10. thezmon221 LEAN SCUM
11. Varsoon THE DOCTOR YOU DENSE FUCKS
12. waynegg SCUM FUCK LYNCH KILL DESTROY FUCK YOU WAYNE
13. zMuffinMan LEAN SCUM

[pieguyn]

wayne why did you hammer so quickly holy shit

@Varsoon:
1. makes a bad jump on someone near the start of D1
2. when pressured, uses false logic and tries to redirect onto BROs
3. only when that doesn't work, tries to defeat my arguments
4. does nothing but scumpaint me the whole game
5. has no idea what to do now that his whole "scumread" got confirmed town
6. uses even more false logic

this is the same shit as TNE

no, it's because that argument is shit

arguments based explicitly on votes only are invalid

no, it's because that argument is shit

you are grasping at straws

no it's because you're using shit arguments